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Originally Posted by ill steelo View Post

May 23, 2013


bombs fired

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Originally Posted by DirtyBuhbuhnew View Post

so you'd take Kobe who misses more clutch shots than Lebron who makes more clutch shots?

Whats your definition of "clutch shots" If you take out yesterdays game, bron ranks 3rd on that list. My definition of clutch includes closing out games in the 4th, shutting out the other teams hopes of coming back, etc.
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how are facts an issue? ESPN showing it the way it is.

If I know nothing about basketball, I look at that list and think LeBron James is the clutchest player in the NBA. However, I do know about basketball, and I know that there are 4 or 5 more players Id rather have with the ball in their hands on the last play of a game instead of Lebron. Thats the issue.


I feel what you're saying but to some dudes numbers never lie laugh.gif

At this point me personally, Durant is the best in the clutch
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Originally Posted by do work son View Post

statistically he shoots the highest percentage in game tying/go ahead FG attempts in the playoffs, with less than 24 seconds in the 4th quarter or OT since he joined the league.

you're arguing your perception and opinion. i'm showing you tangible numbers.

Stats dont show the whole story, and can be very misleading to the average fan, thats all Im trying to say.

stats aren't misleading you, it's your perception. if you think a statistic isn't telling the whole story, then you're looking at the wrong statistic to make your argument.
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Originally Posted by ill steelo View Post

May 23, 2013

Way to deflect criticism from his retarded decision to take Hibbert out twice.

Coaches don't usually throw each other under the bus. Even if he is correct
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Originally Posted by Franco23x View Post

Your dealing with trolls.

Im not a troll tho, you wont hearing me denying anything about lebrons overall greatness, or physical ability. Hows that rep count coming btw?
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Because only two players had a better season than CP3 and they're both forwards.

Not Entirely true.

Player A: 2012-13 27 LAC NBA PG 70 70 33.4 5.9 12.2 .481 1.1 3.3 .328 4.1 4.6 .885 0.8 3.0 3.7 9.7 2.4 0.1 2.3 2.0 16.9 54 wins

Player B: 2012-13 24 OKC NBA PG 82 82 34.9 8.2 18.7 .438 1.2 3.7 .323 5.6 7.0 .800 1.4 3.9 5.2 7.4 1.8 0.3 3.3 2.3 23.2 61 wins.

 

You're not telling me anything I don't know with their per game numbers. But you left out their per minute ones, advanced ones, and on court/off court ones. Also I don't know where you got 61 wins and 54 wins from, it was 60 and 56 and I'm not that concerned about a 4 game gap in the standings considering one plays with a historically great player and the other plays with... Blake Griffin.

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Originally Posted by do work son View Post

stats aren't misleading you, it's your perception. if you think a statistic isn't telling the whole story, then you're looking at the wrong statistic to make your argument.

Theyre not misleading me, I know better, Im saying to people who know nothing about basketball, it looks like bron is the clutchest in the game.
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Im nowhere near a lebron fan, yet i find it comical that people are bashing him for taking an uncontested layup over a jumpshot. Those are the real haters. So if he had a fast break with 5 seconds left, i suppose you expect a pullup 3? A layup is what basketball players want every time.
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Ooooooh god, so it was race, Melo vs Lebron, and "clutchness" that happened, roll.gif
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Because only two players had a better season than CP3 and they're both forwards.


Not Entirely true.


Player A: 2012-13 27 LAC NBA PG 70 70 33.4 5.9 12.2 .481 1.1 3.3 .328 4.1 4.6 .885 0.8 3.0 3.7 9.7 2.4 0.1 2.3 2.0 16.9 54 wins


Player B: 2012-13 24 OKC NBA PG 82 82 34.9 8.2 18.7 .438 1.2 3.7 .323 5.6 7.0 .800 1.4 3.9 5.2 7.4 1.8 0.3 3.3 2.3 23.2 61 wins.

You're not telling me anything I don't know with their per game numbers. But you left out their per minute ones, advanced ones, and on court/off court ones. Also I don't know where you got 61 wins and 54 wins from, it was 60 and 56 and I'm not that concerned about a 4 game gap in the standings considering one plays with a historically great player and the other plays with... Blake Griffin.

But NT thinks BG is better then MJ?
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Im nowhere near a lebron fan, yet i find it comical that people are bashing him for taking an uncontested layup over a jumpshot. Those are the real haters. So if he had a fast break with 5 seconds left, i suppose you expect a pullup 3? A layup is what basketball players want every time.

I aint bashing dude, he made the right play. But to view lebron as the "King Clutch" because he hit an open lay up is absurd.
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Originally Posted by durantula View Post


Whats your definition of "clutch shots" If you take out yesterdays game, bron ranks 3rd on that list. My definition of clutch includes closing out games in the 4th, shutting out the other teams hopes of coming back, etc.

answer my question first dawg

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Originally Posted by UncleRukus View Post

 

You claim you know the game yet you're saying he put a stat line that hasn't been seen since 86? I just can't take you serious anymore after hearing that.

 

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son, you stupid or nah?

 

Per Elias, only one other player in playoff history had a 30-10-10 line with three blocks: Ralph Sampson in 1986.

 

did my exclusion of the phrase "in the playoffs" throw you off??

I mean, we are in the playoffs, right?

you aware of that or nah?

you the exact lame i was talking about just talking out your rear

trying to score points on a message board instead of appreciating how good this thread could be

with intelligent discussion and debates.

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Why do people exclude and entire body of work for say just playoff stats? He's made at least 2 more games winners than everyone else according to postseason statistics. What about the regular season stats compiled with postseason stats? 

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Bron might really be the GOAT, man.

He's unbelievably good at EVERY facet of the game.
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Originally Posted by goldenchild9 View Post

Bron might really be the GOAT, man.

He's unbelievably good at EVERY facet of the game.


Dude is the basketball version of Cell.

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Bron might really be the one pf the best of all time, man.

He's unbelievably good at EVERY most facets of the game.

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Dude is the basketball version of Cell.
Lol, cell was a baad man
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Originally Posted by goldenchild9 View Post

Bron might really be the GOAT, man.


He's unbelievably good at EVERY facet of the game.


Dude is the basketball version of Cell.

eek.gif

Accurate.

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Originally Posted by DirtyBuhbuhnew View Post

answer my question first dawg

Your question was who would I rather have take a clutch shot, kobe or Lebron? In order to answer that I need your definition of a "clutch" shot? What dont you understand about that?

In my definition of clutch, which includes closing out games, shutting the door on other teams it would be Kobe>Lebron. If I have to get a good shot off in under 7 seconds it would be Bron>Kobe. Brons a physcial force who could get a better shot than kobe could in a little amount of time. If I have 24 seconds on the shot clock and am holding for the last shot Im taking Kobe>Bron. Im taking Durant> Dirk> Kobe> Melo> A tie bewteen bron and pierce. Kyrie will be on this list in a year or 2 smokin.gif (this is a current list if all players are 100% healthy). Lebron might have already passed pierce and if not he will this year. Pierce is falling off. This list is 100% MY OPINION
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Tim Duncan's teammates on his first All-NBA first-team: Karl Malone, Shaq, MJ and Gary Payton! He spans the generations.
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Originally Posted by durantula View Post


Your question was who would I rather have take a clutch shot, kobe or Lebron? In order to answer that I need your definition of a "clutch" shot? What dont you understand about that?

In my definition of clutch, which includes closing out games, shutting the door on other teams it would be Kobe>Lebron. If I have to get a good shot off in under 7 seconds it would be Bron>Kobe. Brons a physcial force who could get a better shot than kobe could in a little amount of time. If I have 24 seconds on the shot clock and am holding for the last shot Im taking Kobe>Bron. Im taking Durant> Dirk> Kobe> Melo> A tie bewteen bron and pierce. Kyrie will be on this list in a year or 2 smokin.gif (this is a current list if all players are 100% healthy). Lebron might have already passed pierce and if not he will this year. Pierce is falling off. This list is 100% MY OPINION

LEbron is more clutch than kobe

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Oh and btw: IMO if timmy wins a 5th this year and beats bron again, he will cement himself as the best forward of all time, hes already the best PF of all time.
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Blake Griff making the second team is a joke.
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Originally Posted by DirtyBuhbuhnew View Post

LEbron is more clutch than kobe

In your opinion he is and thats fine.
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Oh and btw: IMO if timmy wins a 5th this year and beats bron again, he will cement himself as the best forward of all time, hes already the best PF of all time.

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Originally Posted by DirtyBuhbuhnew View Post


Dude is the basketball version of Cell.

 

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eek.gif

Accurate.

 

dope comparison.

i won't even lie.

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Originally Posted by Nawzlew View Post

Tim Duncan's teammates on his first All-NBA first-team: Karl Malone, Shaq, MJ and Gary Payton! He spans the generations.

Duncan seriously spans like 3 or 4 generations of the NBA (depending on how you look at it), MJ-era, Shaq/Kobe early 00s-era, Kobe/Lebron-era, KD/Lebron/Kobe, era

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Originally Posted by UncleRukus View Post

Why do people exclude and entire body of work for say just playoff stats? He's made at least 2 more games winners than everyone else according to postseason statistics. What about the regular season stats compiled with postseason stats? 
**** the regular season.

In the playoffs you play the best competition when intensity is at its highest. It is a true measure of your individual ability.

I don't give a damn if you hit a game winner against the Bobcats in the middle of January.
  
  
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