How I Met Your Mother Post Series Discussion. Rustled Jimmies to the Maximum

First time in like...at least a decade that there was huge backlash to an ending of a show I never watched. :lol:

Alias, Lost, BSG, Sopranos, Dexter...whatever the hell happened to Heroes, Weeds, Scrubs and The Office. :smh:

It...actually makes me wanna check out HIMYM in a weird way. :lol:

Is the first season worth watching or is it one of those...gets better later shows?
 
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5 Criticisms Of How I Met Your Mother‘s Ending (And Why They’re Invalid)

1. But Tracey was “The One” for Ted!
Tracey was perfect for Ted, so much so that it became borderline unbelievable by the end of the series. But everyone complaining that Ted and Tracey were destined for each other are forgetting one key factor: Ted was never Tracey’s “The One.” Max was.

If we believe that Tracey can move on after Max and love Ted, then we have to believe that Ted can move on after Tracey as well. Ted and Tracey getting together in itself proves that there isn’t one person for everyone. Max was the one for Tracey until he died. Tracey was the one for Ted, until she died. How I Met Your Mother has consistently highlighted the role of timing in relationships.

Tracey and Max eventually ended up together. Robin and Ted eventually ended up together. The timing wasn’t right for either of these relationships when the show started, but it was right in the end.

2. Ted and Robin were never right for each other.
Ted wanted a family and Robin wanted to travel. These passions split them up more than once throughout the series and remained a prevailing force in their lives until the show’s end.

This too goes back to the theme of timing. Ted didn’t just want a woman in his life: he had that and more in Robin. He wanted a woman who would start a family with him, bear his children, settle down with him, and be his wife. He found all of that in Tracey. For years, he experienced those joys with her and she alone filled the role of the woman he wanted to marry.

When Ted went back to Robin, he wasn’t looking for another Tracey. He’d found her, he’d lost her, and all he wanted now was someone to love. Robin’s love wasn’t enough for him initially, but time changes what we need out of relationships.

In the final episode, Ted has his kids and his family and his memories of the perfect marriage. Now, an independent, career-focused woman may be exactly what’s right for him. And a settled down, humbled Ted may now be exactly what’s right for Robin. Robin and Ted will never be the perfect couple Ted once wanted them to be. But now he may just want them to be the flawed, imperfect couple they were all along.

3. The characters developed and then regressed.
There has been a great deal of backlash over the character development of Barney Stinson who went from a womanizing prick to a sensitive, mature man who was ready to settle down… back to a womanizing prick holding the playbook.

Except the series didn’t end that way. We saw Barney develop into a person who was ready to love — first Nora, then Quinn, and then finally, Robin. In the final episode, it became obvious that Barney wasn’t capable of loving anyone in a romantic way. We got closure on this when he tells the gang that he’ll never be the guy who meets a woman and immediately decides he loves her and will share everything with her forever.

Except that’s exactly what happened when he met his daughter. All the complex character development we saw throughout the series with Barney came to a cumulative point right there and then: he was capable of love, just a different kind of love than we’d expected. His baby changed him in a way a woman never could.

Barney’s character didn’t regress, he just transformed in a way that we didn’t expect. What he wanted wasn’t a wife, it was a child — which was something Robin could never give him.

Similar to Barney, Ted didn’t snap right back into being a hopeless romantic. His character developed into a calmer, more rational man who realized that the perfect love might not last forever. That’s why he let go of Robin and married Tracey. It’s also why he moved on from Tracey. Because the final development of his character was learning to not be the man who lived in his stories: The story of how he met Tracey finally ended, and the rest of his life began.

4. It’s a contradiction to the title.
Okay, well, the series DID technically end with Ted meeting the mother. But I get your point, and here’s my response.

While she wasn’t present for most of the series, the Mother functioned as an archetypal ideal for Ted throughout the nine seasons. Tracey took a while to show up but she was present in the show for years before we met her. Ted’s quest for love was eternally driven by her absence.

Only by meeting the mother could Ted finally get the hell over her. He could never have ended up with Robin had he not met Tracey first and lived out that dream with her, just like Lily couldn’t have married Marshall before moving to San Francisco and Robin couldn’t have ended up with Ted before traveling the world.

While it may have been perfect and ideal for Ted to have spent the rest of his life happy with Tracey, life is neither perfect nor ideal. This is another theme that HIMYM has endorsed from the beginning. The characters have always just done the best with what they had. And that’s what they did right until the end.

5. If Ted and Robin were going to end up together why did it take nine seasons?
This one’s easy: Because if How I Met Your Mother has taught us anything, it’s that if we want to see something legendary happen, we’re going to have to wait for it. TC mark
 
MrONegative said:
First time in like...at least a decade that there was huge backlash to an ending of a show I never watched. :lol:

Alias, Lost, BSG, Sopranos, Dexter...whatever the hell happened to Heroes, Weeds, Scrubs and The Office. :smh:

It...actually makes me wanna check out HIMYM in a weird way. :lol:

Is the first season worth watching or is it one of those...gets better later shows?
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definitely good, cheesy in intentional way sometimes but its entertaining...
 
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A couple days later and I still feel cheated by the writers :lol: I'll give them credit that they stuck to their guns, and they created a finale that sat with us... just not in a good way. :smh:

Like people have said, the problem isn't the ending, but how they got there. They see-sawed on Ted/Robin too much over the years - if the show was about Ted ending up with her, was their love story one for the ages? I have to say no. Doesn't help that they built up another girl (the mother) as a fairy tale.

Fairy tales don't usually happen... life isn't perfect... but it doesn't mean they should sweep her under the rug all of a sudden.
 
MrONegative said:
First time in like...at least a decade that there was huge backlash to an ending of a show I never watched. :lol:

Alias, Lost, BSG, Sopranos, Dexter...whatever the hell happened to Heroes, Weeds, Scrubs and The Office. :smh:

It...actually makes me wanna check out HIMYM in a weird way. :lol:

Is the first season worth watching or is it one of those...gets better later shows?
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We don't count Scrubs season 9 :lol: season 8 is where it ended and it ended great!
 
pr0phecy718 said:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-pri...t-your-mothers-ending-and-why-theyre-invalid/

5 Criticisms Of How I Met Your Mother‘s Ending (And Why They’re Invalid)

1. But Tracey was “The One” for Ted!
Tracey was perfect for Ted, so much so that it became borderline unbelievable by the end of the series. But everyone complaining that Ted and Tracey were destined for each other are forgetting one key factor: Ted was never Tracey’s “The One.” Max was.

If we believe that Tracey can move on after Max and love Ted, then we have to believe that Ted can move on after Tracey as well. Ted and Tracey getting together in itself proves that there isn’t one person for everyone. Max was the one for Tracey until he died. Tracey was the one for Ted, until she died. How I Met Your Mother has consistently highlighted the role of timing in relationships.

Tracey and Max eventually ended up together. Robin and Ted eventually ended up together. The timing wasn’t right for either of these relationships when the show started, but it was right in the end.

2. Ted and Robin were never right for each other.
Ted wanted a family and Robin wanted to travel. These passions split them up more than once throughout the series and remained a prevailing force in their lives until the show’s end.

This too goes back to the theme of timing. Ted didn’t just want a woman in his life: he had that and more in Robin. He wanted a woman who would start a family with him, bear his children, settle down with him, and be his wife. He found all of that in Tracey. For years, he experienced those joys with her and she alone filled the role of the woman he wanted to marry.

When Ted went back to Robin, he wasn’t looking for another Tracey. He’d found her, he’d lost her, and all he wanted now was someone to love. Robin’s love wasn’t enough for him initially, but time changes what we need out of relationships.

In the final episode, Ted has his kids and his family and his memories of the perfect marriage. Now, an independent, career-focused woman may be exactly what’s right for him. And a settled down, humbled Ted may now be exactly what’s right for Robin. Robin and Ted will never be the perfect couple Ted once wanted them to be. But now he may just want them to be the flawed, imperfect couple they were all along.

3. The characters developed and then regressed.
There has been a great deal of backlash over the character development of Barney Stinson who went from a womanizing prick to a sensitive, mature man who was ready to settle down… back to a womanizing prick holding the playbook.

Except the series didn’t end that way. We saw Barney develop into a person who was ready to love — first Nora, then Quinn, and then finally, Robin. In the final episode, it became obvious that Barney wasn’t capable of loving anyone in a romantic way. We got closure on this when he tells the gang that he’ll never be the guy who meets a woman and immediately decides he loves her and will share everything with her forever.

Except that’s exactly what happened when he met his daughter. All the complex character development we saw throughout the series with Barney came to a cumulative point right there and then: he was capable of love, just a different kind of love than we’d expected. His baby changed him in a way a woman never could.

Barney’s character didn’t regress, he just transformed in a way that we didn’t expect. What he wanted wasn’t a wife, it was a child — which was something Robin could never give him.

Similar to Barney, Ted didn’t snap right back into being a hopeless romantic. His character developed into a calmer, more rational man who realized that the perfect love might not last forever. That’s why he let go of Robin and married Tracey. It’s also why he moved on from Tracey. Because the final development of his character was learning to not be the man who lived in his stories: The story of how he met Tracey finally ended, and the rest of his life began.

4. It’s a contradiction to the title.
Okay, well, the series DID technically end with Ted meeting the mother. But I get your point, and here’s my response.

While she wasn’t present for most of the series, the Mother functioned as an archetypal ideal for Ted throughout the nine seasons. Tracey took a while to show up but she was present in the show for years before we met her. Ted’s quest for love was eternally driven by her absence.

Only by meeting the mother could Ted finally get the hell over her. He could never have ended up with Robin had he not met Tracey first and lived out that dream with her, just like Lily couldn’t have married Marshall before moving to San Francisco and Robin couldn’t have ended up with Ted before traveling the world.

While it may have been perfect and ideal for Ted to have spent the rest of his life happy with Tracey, life is neither perfect nor ideal. This is another theme that HIMYM has endorsed from the beginning. The characters have always just done the best with what they had. And that’s what they did right until the end.

5. If Ted and Robin were going to end up together why did it take nine seasons?
This one’s easy: Because if How I Met Your Mother has taught us anything, it’s that if we want to see something legendary happen, we’re going to have to wait for it. TC mark
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All of this.

This basically is what my last post said in a more complete and eloquent way.

A lot of you guys are stuck on Tracy and anti-Robin, but the show might have been called HIMYM, but the kids made it clear the story was never about the mother, it was Ted trying to get approval for Robin, who was his true one, the one that got away.

In real life, if you do ever have the chance to get that one that got away without hurting anyone to achieve it, by all means why wouldnt you?
 
Comparing this to real life and how things aren't perfect, or things happen suddenly, or what would you do, whatever, is just making excuses imo.

This was a show. Shows tell stories. This one didn't do a great job in the end. If the story was Ted trying to get approval for Robin, they needed to do a better job of telling that story.

Ted/Robin was always consistently part of the story... but it also got a groan from a large part of the audience every time. That's not good if that's supposed to be what the show is about.
 
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its like half of the series was dedicated to Ted finding "the mother" and finally getting over Robin....and then in the end they end up together. And we don't even know what happens next we're all assuming after he goes to her place they get hitched and live happily ever after. Leaves an empty feeling.
 
The more I read of what I quoted, the more it makes more sense to me.

So do you guys think Barney's number 31 will be the mother in "how I met your dad?" Lol
 
pr0phecy718 said:
The more I read of what I quoted, the more it makes more sense to me.

So do you guys think Barney's number 31 will be the mother in "how I met your dad?" Lol
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It's been mentioned many times that How I Met Your Dad has nothing to do with HIMYM (except same creators).

Whole new cast, whole new storyline, and we already know who the Dad is.
 
You guys keep pulling me back in, lol. That was an excellent article, but I disagree with one aspect of it. The writer made it seem that Tracy was some kind of consolacion prize. He called Robin the one that got away. That's missing the point. Robin couldn't have been the one who got away, because Tracy was the one.
Besides that, I agree with everything he wrote.

*edit*Nvm, it wasn't the writer who said Robin was the one who got away, it was the poster who quoted the article.
 
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Yeah, that was missing the point.

Ted didn't have to choose, nor was he settling in the time he was with Tracy. It's more like he had 2 loves of his life.

I just wish they drove that home more. Imagine if Ted had said something like he already played the lottery and hit the jackpot and the kids make him rethink it... or if Ted had asked for a sign that it was OK to move on and maybe a truck of blue french horns stopped behind him. I think it would've been more meaningful, less cheap-reveal storytelling. Same ending, a lot more substance.
 
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Slighted said:
pr0phecy718 said:
The more I read of what I quoted, the more it makes more sense to me.


So do you guys think Barney's number 31 will be the mother in "how I met your dad?" Lol
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It's been mentioned many times that How I Met Your Dad has nothing to do with HIMYM (except same creators).

Whole new cast, whole new storyline, and we already know who the Dad is.
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Of course I know that but it just seem that it's something they could toy with
 
pr0phecy718 said:
definitely good, cheesy in intentional way sometimes but its entertaining...
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I think the only episode I ever watched was the one Katie Holmes was on. That was....different. :lol:

Are there any really good early ones, to get a feel for the show?


Proshares said:
We don't count Scrubs season 9 :lol: season 8 is where it ended and it ended great!
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I do the same thing for Lost. That fade to white was a great ending. :smokin :nerd:
 
We're already going to know who the dad is in HIMYD? That's, different. I'm willing to give it a shot to fill the void in my HIMYM-less heart.
 
We don't know who the dad is. We just know who the main's first husband is. She will divorce him in the first season iirc
 
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SenorRoboto2k5 said:
Yeah, that was missing the point.

Ted didn't have to choose, nor was he settling in the time he was with Tracy. It's more like he had 2 loves of his life.
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I think this is something that maybe 90 percent of all HIMYM fans don't understand, whether they're on the umbrella scene side or the blue french horn scene side. Repped.
 
mronegative mronegative

Of all the shows u mentioned, I'd say HIMYM mirrors Dexter in that the early seasons were quality television, both hit a lull halfway through and stumbled down the stretch.

Dexter's final season and finale were much worse tho.
 
DangerousG said:
We don't know who the dad is. We just know who the main's first husband is. She will divorce him in the first season iirc
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Oh. Well, I already knew that. Disappointing. It would've been different to know exactly who the father is, even if they don't meet for 9 seasons :lol:

If the show even gets that far. I have a feeling it might not even make it through the season :smh:

Spin offs have very short shelf lives. I think the most successful spin off was Frasier and that show is a gazillion years old now.
 
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Yeah I doubt How I Met Your Dad is gonna have much success. It's probably gonna lose a majority of its guy audience just from the fact that its following a female lead alone. Also, add in the bad vibes from the Mother finale and that most of the cast, aside from Greta Gerwig, look like a bunch of dweebs :lol:
 
I don't think HIMYM 'stumbled down the stretch'

Just the fact that there is this internet wide debate and such divisiveness over the finale proves that. People aren't going to argue this hotly over something they don't care about, and if they are, then they should be devoting their energy to something they do care about.
 
Yea, having a female lead would lose the guy audience unless there is a male supporting character that can keep the audience reeled in like Barney. We'll see.
 
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