Is Gay For Pay Still Gay?

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Are prisoners gay? 

There is such a thing as situational homosexuality: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_homosexuality

Interesting nuance to this argument. 
 
i think people need to understand that sexuality is more of a spectrum. doing something that's considered "gay" doesn't mean that the person is only attracted to the same sex.
 
So Nyuh Shi Dae said:
i think people need to understand that sexuality is more of a spectrum. doing something that's considered "gay" doesn't mean that the person is only attracted to the same sex.
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I agree. Are women who hook up with women but date men considered gay? Society usually looks the other way (or cheers them on) when it's two women but when it's a man participating in homosexual acts, he is quickly labeled and boxed in.

Sexuality is neither black nor white, it's grey. It's our inclination to box people into neat categories but human nature doesn't always fit into our own simplistic mental model.
 
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iBlink said:
By definition, yes.

As a heterosexual man, partaking in sex with another man is... Gay. Whatever rationale the person uses to dignify their acts is, for the most part, irrelevant because the act itself is what constitutes the homosexuality. I mean, a person can harbor thoughts of another member of the same sex, but if they never act out on it, their claim at being heterosexual is more substantial than that of a person who partakes in homosexual acts.

I remember that episode of true life and thought the guy was gay, regardless of what he claimed.
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If you identify as heterosexual, but you've never had heterosexual sex, are you straight or gay? Because it seems as if you're claiming it's the action that dictates your sexual orientation... not how you feel or who you're attracted to.
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Wait.... So you're saying a dude can beat the brakes off another man's booty, and not be gay if he's not attracted?
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No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm responding to something I've seen before, that people say it's only the action that dictates your sexual orientation and not who you're attracted to or how you view yourself. If you slept with a woman, are you not heterosexual if you're not attracted? 

Anyway, I don't particularly care to label people on or the other.. I consider sexuality a spectrum as well.. so however they choose to self-identify (if they choose to at all) is their business. 
 
Not making a defense in any way, but there's such a double standard in the pornographic community in direct relation to public perception regarding girl on girl vs. male on male.
 
Well, I've always thought that homosexuality was a lifestyle choice. There's a huge argument to be had in regard to nature versus nurture, but if you are a straight actor portraying, or contributing to gay entertainment, I don't see how you can be considered gay.

The sex act is gay, but you aren't, so there is a difference. 
 
emeyesix said:
Well, I've always thought that homosexuality was a lifestyle choice. There's a huge argument to be had in regard to nature versus nurture, but if you are a straight actor portraying, or contributing to gay entertainment, I don't see how you can be considered gay.

The sex act is gay, but you aren't, so there is a difference. 
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Yeah but you're doing something that in a sense you enjoy and feel comfortable doing. It's more than just doing an act and shutting it off when you "clock out" on the job.

There has to be a part of you that truly enjoys being with men (on or off the job) to make it a career..or career starting point
 
the average pay per scene is like 5k-9k right?

I would do it for like a year, stack money and leave the country,rinse repeat and I could retire before im 30
 
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btw this is the kind of stupid, clutter, spam, useless thread that is presented because theres no

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:lol: Actually (for once) this is a legit topic. There's no telling how much this could branch off and get derailed.

To answer the question though (I've seen this episode too), yes, you would still be considered gay, regardless of the profession. Dudes will go to the ends of the earth to convince themselves otherwise, but there's pretty much no turning back after that.

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Are prisoners gay? 

There is such a thing as situational homosexuality: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_homosexuality

Interesting nuance to this argument. 
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And yet this does make sense
 
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Elpablo21 said:
Yeah but you're doing something that in a sense you enjoy and feel comfortable doing. It's more than just doing an act and shutting it off when you "clock out" on the job.

There has to be a part of you that truly enjoys being with men (on or off the job) to make it a career..or career starting point
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How do you know that the act is being enjoyed by the performer?

You do realize that there are fluffers and the usage of viagra on set, right?
 
FutureMD said:
Are prisoners gay? 

There is such a thing as situational homosexuality: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Situational_homosexuality

Interesting nuance to this argument. 
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I forgot like everything i learned in college :lol:

but i remember some philosopher who studied sexuality discussing how men and women aren't so black and white with orientations of straight, bisexual, gay. there was a ratio of sexual attraction. i think common would be 7-3 but someone who identifies as straight would only be comfortable admitting 10-0
 
whoadie would be stage 5 flaming. All this amorphous and gray area sexuality stuff is a hoax so those old lecturers can feel up on some "curious" dudes. Gay is gay is gay.
 
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emeyesix said:
Elpablo21 said:
Yeah but you're doing something that in a sense you enjoy and feel comfortable doing. It's more than just doing an act and shutting it off when you "clock out" on the job.

There has to be a part of you that truly enjoys being with men (on or off the job) to make it a career..or career starting point
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How do you know that the act is being enjoyed by the performer?

You do realize that there are fluffers and the usage of viagra on set, right?
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I do realize that...and I'm sure they have the same situations for straight scenes so whats your point?
 
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I do realize that...and I'm sure they have the same situations for straight scenes so whats your point?
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Sure, if there is a gay actor doing straight scenes, I am sure that there may be some gay man to help him out if needed....but since he is doing a straight film, does that make him straight?
 
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Elpablo21 said:
I do realize that...and I'm sure they have the same situations for straight scenes so whats your point?
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Sure, if there is a gay actor doing straight scenes, I am sure that there may be some gay man to help him out if needed....but since he is doing a straight film, does that make him straight?
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Like my first post in this thread was

it makes them bi-sexual
 
emeyesix said:
Well, I've always thought that homosexuality was a lifestyle choice. There's a huge argument to be had in regard to nature versus nurture, but if you are a straight actor portraying, or contributing to gay entertainment, I don't see how you can be considered gay.

The sex act is gay, but you aren't, so there is a difference. 
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Ok. Lets get this straight.

Lets not rely on what we "THINK"...that leads to errors.

There is a LOT of evidence that you can be born gay...Theres tons of data out there so lets not be so prone to speculation on serious topics. Do the research. 

 
Elpablo21 said:
Like my first post in this thread was

it makes them bi-sexual
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No, it does not. Especially if he lives within the Gay lifestyle while off the set, exclusively with male partners.

It's an act, therein lies the difference.
 
FutureMD said:
Ok. Lets get this straight.

Lets not rely on what we "THINK"...that leads to errors.

There is a LOT of evidence that you can be born gay...Theres tons of data out there so lets not be so prone to speculation on serious topics. Do the research. 
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The research has been done, and all has been shown to be inconclusive. They have not found a gay gene, nor how brain function actually determines human sexuality. I prefer to call the exclusively gay lifestyle a choice, but not to disparage anyone. As was shown in the example of situational homosexuality, some people do it, simply because they can.

In some circles, men participate in buggery, in order to emasculate other men, then showing a form of dominance.

Even in some Gay relationships, sex may not even exist between the couples at all, just as with some straight couples, as it is simply a matter of companionship.
 
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