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Poll Results: How Many Games Will The Lakers Win With Mike D'Antoni?

Poll expired: Dec 9, 2012  
  • 23% (22)
    40-49...They're Going To Get Worse
  • 48% (45)
    50-59...Good Enough For A Solid Seed, Not Too Shabby
  • 15% (14)
    60-65...Top Seed and Impressive Record, Thumbs Up
  • 3% (3)
    66-70...Scary Good, All Teams Are Now Officially Scared
  • 8% (8)
    71+...Might As Well Cancel The Playoffs
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post #12481 of 34774
12/27/12 at 7:23pm
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Every year a team is different. Can't talk about previous years facing a team. Doesn't work like that.
Like I said earlier, Nuggets lost earlier in the season because of a lack of identity and key players being out.
Every team has problems going against certain teams. It just happens.
But to think the Nuggets are "lower" than you guys is dumb, and thats the impression i'm getting with some of you.
Lakers aren't making any good news right now. They're making SC because of how bad they are on the court with such a "great" roster. Not something to be prideful of. Trust me, I'm a long time Knicks fan. I know what that's like.
Lakers need a lot of work and it's pretty early, but I doubt they get past the second round. They just don't have the right things in place to win. Kobe's will to win only goes so far.
Lack of a bench, old roster that isn't playing together, Dwight Howard with his erratic play, Nash not guaranteed to make it the rest of the season (You guys have a great medical staff, but it's not Phoenix), a stubborn coach who throws players in the doghouse and wont commit to defense. Mix all that together and put in Kobe who is arguably the greatest basketball player in this millennium and the Lakers seem like an extension of a Ringling Brothers side show.
I'm not hating (have to say it, because Lord know how sensitive some of you are), but it's what's going on. I hope you guys do well, I really do, but I wouldn't be shocked if the Lakers got knocked out second round or gets a low 5-8 seed.


it's not being sensitive man.. just hear yourself for one second .. you said Nugs lost earlier because of lack of identity and key players out.. the Lakers are not the same?

We don't think they're " Lower " than us, i just have an issue with you saying they're a match-up nightmare for the Lakers while they're 1-1 this season

You're not hating yet you doubt them getting past 2nd round in december on Nash second game back and overall unhealthy starters..

Okaaay.

What identity issues do you guys have? MDA is pretty clear cut on what he wants out of his team. Run and gun and high tempo offense. Straight forward.

Do you HONESTLY believe the Lakers at this point in time can contend for a championship? Honestly.

Barring any injuries from other teams, the Lakers don't have a great chance. But that's not to say they cant improve and get better. I voted for you guys winning 40-49 games. I think you guys will win around 45 games give or take. But to make it deep in the playoffs? You need to have a deep bench, cohesive unit, defensive intensity and a coach that knows what he's doing.

It's highly doubtful all of that happens this year. Now, if you manage to trade Gasol, get wing players and hybrids who can shoot, Nash plays like circa 03-07 Nash and Dwight becomes the defensive consistent anchor that he's supposed to be, then I'd give you guys a GREAT chance.

Honestly, right now you guys are a great paper team. Again, no hate, bro. These are all facts and i'm sure a lot of people will agree.
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post #12482 of 34774
12/27/12 at 8:29pm
mean.gif at Jamison only getting 19mins... Ima watch the Portland game to see how we look against them, especially defensively on the perimeter
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12/27/12 at 8:33pm
It's hard to watch Barnes playing so well, with another team mean.gif
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post #12484 of 34774
12/27/12 at 9:05pm
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It's hard to watch Barnes playing so well, with another team mean.gif
Should have signed him instead of Jamison
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post #12485 of 34774
12/27/12 at 10:27pm
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What identity issues do you guys have? MDA is pretty clear cut on what he wants out of his team. Run and gun and high tempo offense. Straight forward.
Do you HONESTLY believe the Lakers at this point in time can contend for a championship? Honestly.
Barring any injuries from other teams, the Lakers don't have a great chance. But that's not to say they cant improve and get better. I voted for you guys winning 40-49 games. I think you guys will win around 45 games give or take. But to make it deep in the playoffs? You need to have a deep bench, cohesive unit, defensive intensity and a coach that knows what he's doing.
It's highly doubtful all of that happens this year. Now, if you manage to trade Gasol, get wing players and hybrids who can shoot, Nash plays like circa 03-07 Nash and Dwight becomes the defensive consistent anchor that he's supposed to be, then I'd give you guys a GREAT chance.
Honestly, right now you guys are a great paper team. Again, no hate, bro. These are all facts and i'm sure a lot of people will agree.

Did MDA came out say i want a run n gun offense? i know what kind of coach he is but all i hear from him are spacing, ball movement and Nash..

You really asked me if i HONESTLY believe they can contend for the championship while they are struggling in December? really bro? Outside of MIA and OKC, maybe theres only 3-4 teams SEEMED like they can contend for the championship.. we can talk about this around march/april

If you think they won't get deep into the playoffs, then be it. It's just too early to even talking about this while the whole team hasn't even played together for a full month.

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post #12486 of 34774
12/27/12 at 10:27pm
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It's hard to watch Barnes playing so well, with another team mean.gif

i think all players play well before or after lakers. kinda weird.
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post #12487 of 34774
12/27/12 at 10:30pm
Team needs to play better defense and limit the turnovers. If that's done, offense should come with no problem.
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post #12488 of 34774
12/27/12 at 11:14pm
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What identity issues do you guys have? MDA is pretty clear cut on what he wants out of his team. Run and gun and high tempo offense. Straight forward.
Do you HONESTLY believe the Lakers at this point in time can contend for a championship? Honestly.
Barring any injuries from other teams, the Lakers don't have a great chance. But that's not to say they cant improve and get better. I voted for you guys winning 40-49 games. I think you guys will win around 45 games give or take. But to make it deep in the playoffs? You need to have a deep bench, cohesive unit, defensive intensity and a coach that knows what he's doing.
It's highly doubtful all of that happens this year. Now, if you manage to trade Gasol, get wing players and hybrids who can shoot, Nash plays like circa 03-07 Nash and Dwight becomes the defensive consistent anchor that he's supposed to be, then I'd give you guys a GREAT chance.
Honestly, right now you guys are a great paper team. Again, no hate, bro. These are all facts and i'm sure a lot of people will agree.

Did MDA came out say i want a run n gun offense? i know what kind of coach he is but all i hear from him are spacing, ball movement and Nash..

You really asked me if i HONESTLY believe they can contend for the championship while they are struggling in December? really bro? Outside of MIA and OKC, maybe theres only 3-4 teams SEEMED like they can contend for the championship.. we can talk about this around march/april

If you think they won't get deep into the playoffs, then be it. It's just too early to even talking about this while the whole team hasn't even played together for a full month.

Anything can happen in the playoffs nerd.gif

I remember MDA saying he wanted to bring back Showtime Lakers. I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's what I heard.

I'll give you a pass with the whole team playing together. They haven't had enough time with eachother to know their games and how it fits into the system. Nash is a SOLID PG still in this league and he'll give everyone a chance.

It is December and the last 25-28 games is all we have to base our observations on. At this point in the year--The Lakers aren't a title contending team. They aren't even one of those "sleeper/threat" teams. Does that mean that can't change? No, of course not. But right now, they're struggling.

There are just too many obvious issues that the Lakers have and it looks like it wont change, because of the coaches track record. D'Antoni doesn't preach defense and you need to play defense to win, even if "anything can happen in the playoffs". I can't remember a team winning and didn't play defense in the last 10-15 NBA seasons.
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post #12489 of 34774
12/27/12 at 11:21pm
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What identity issues do you guys have? MDA is pretty clear cut on what he wants out of his team. Run and gun and high tempo offense. Straight forward.
Do you HONESTLY believe the Lakers at this point in time can contend for a championship? Honestly.
Barring any injuries from other teams, the Lakers don't have a great chance. But that's not to say they cant improve and get better. I voted for you guys winning 40-49 games. I think you guys will win around 45 games give or take. But to make it deep in the playoffs? You need to have a deep bench, cohesive unit, defensive intensity and a coach that knows what he's doing.
It's highly doubtful all of that happens this year. Now, if you manage to trade Gasol, get wing players and hybrids who can shoot, Nash plays like circa 03-07 Nash and Dwight becomes the defensive consistent anchor that he's supposed to be, then I'd give you guys a GREAT chance.
Honestly, right now you guys are a great paper team. Again, no hate, bro. These are all facts and i'm sure a lot of people will agree.

Did MDA came out say i want a run n gun offense?
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“We would love to be able to play ‘Showtime’ basketball,” D’Antoni said. “We would like to get some place close to it.”
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post #12490 of 34774
12/27/12 at 11:22pm
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i think all players play well before or after lakers. kinda weird.
Like... ? Don't just spout off at the mouth; let's see names.
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post #12491 of 34774
12/28/12 at 3:29am
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I remember MDA saying he wanted to bring back Showtime Lakers. I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that's what I heard.
I'll give you a pass with the whole team playing together. They haven't had enough time with eachother to know their games and how it fits into the system. Nash is a SOLID PG still in this league and he'll give everyone a chance.
It is December and the last 25-28 games is all we have to base our observations on. At this point in the year--The Lakers aren't a title contending team. They aren't even one of those "sleeper/threat" teams. Does that mean that can't change? No, of course not. But right now, they're struggling.
There are just too many obvious issues that the Lakers have and it looks like it wont change, because of the coaches track record. D'Antoni doesn't preach defense and you need to play defense to win, even if "anything can happen in the playoffs". I can't remember a team winning and didn't play defense in the last 10-15 NBA seasons.

Nash just got back, and I believe with a couple more games the Showtime Lakers will return. The loss to the Nuggets was tough, but expected, because that team was too high energy for us at the time. Give it a couple more games for them to get into a rhythm, and we'll start rolling in the wins. With MWP & Jordan Hill providing high energy and Dwight slowly returning to full power, I expect the defense to only improve from here.

 

Needless to say, I believe the Lakers will contend for a title this year.

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post #12492 of 34774
12/28/12 at 5:23am
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Like... ? Don't just spout off at the mouth; let's see names.

Right. laugh.gif

Barnes is doing his thing. I give him that. But, he battled injuries much of his time as a Laker.

Odom fell off. Still a decent player but we had the best of him...
Bynum is picking his Afro and bowling.
Farmar isn't in the NBA. Neither is Vujacic.
Kwame Brown is still Kwame Brown.
Javaris Crittenton became a career criminal.
Chris Mihm is retired at 33 and hasn't played basketball in 4 years.
Luke Walton is still a bum.
Joe Smith is out of the league...finally.
Josh Powell did nothing.
Adam Morrison did nothing.
Mbenga? roll.gif

Who are we talking about here? laugh.gif

Shannon Brown, Matt Barnes, and out of shape Odom are the only ones worth anything.
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post #12493 of 34774
12/28/12 at 6:16am
^You forgot Caron Butler and T.Ariza, well the latter went downhill when he left the lakers.
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post #12494 of 34774
12/28/12 at 6:30am
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^You forgot Caron Butler and T.Ariza, well the latter went downhill when he left the lakers. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I'd still want Ariza back though eyes.gif

Caron is doing decent. Ariza hasn't developed at all.
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post #12495 of 34774
12/28/12 at 9:24am
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Like... ? Don't just spout off at the mouth; let's see names.

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Got him...

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post #12496 of 34774
12/28/12 at 12:03pm
CDR wrote on his Tumblr about Kobe and his advice a few days ago. A really good read.
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post #12497 of 34774
12/28/12 at 12:29pm
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CDR wrote on his Tumblr about Kobe and his advice a few days ago. A really good read.

Wow, excellent read. Happy for dude.

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post #12498 of 34774
12/28/12 at 12:54pm
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CDR wrote on his Tumblr about Kobe and his advice a few days ago. A really good read.

I will never fully understand the hate people harbor towards the Mamba.

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post #12499 of 34774
12/28/12 at 12:57pm
This team sucks.
They will not even make the playoffs.
Even if they do, its a first round exit.
Im gonna start the offseason/lottery thread right now.
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post #12500 of 34774
12/28/12 at 1:50pm
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This team sucks.
They will not even make the playoffs.
Even if they do, its a first round exit.
Im gonna start the offseason/lottery thread right now.

LOL it might happen for real.
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post #12501 of 34774
12/28/12 at 2:07pm
And that's why he is put on ignore.
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post #12502 of 34774
12/28/12 at 2:07pm
And that's why he is put on ignore.
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post #12503 of 34774
12/28/12 at 2:12pm
I'd take Ariza back! He'd flourish with us again. smokin.gif
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post #12504 of 34774
12/28/12 at 2:47pm
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Should have signed him instead of Jamison

Nope should have DUMPED Ebanks sorry punk A*S and kept Barnes.Clips got him for the league minimum this year.

Barnes had a falling out with Mike Brown and was in his dog house during the playoffs.Then the arrest in the off season didn't help matters also.
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post #12505 of 34774
12/28/12 at 3:11pm
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Nope should have DUMPED Ebanks sorry punk A*S and kept Barnes.Clips got him for the league minimum this year.
Barnes had a falling out with Mike Brown and was in his dog house during the playoffs.Then the arrest in the off season didn't help matters also.

Barnes is helping the Clippers that's for damn sure, he had 21 his last game against the Celtics. Ebanks is trash.

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post #12506 of 34774
12/28/12 at 5:53pm
We'll see what happens now with Pau having some soreness. His play is not 100% where I want it to be.. But each game he looks better..

With that said.. We have to begin taking him down in minutes... 28-30 minutes. 16 at the 4. 13 at the 5.

I love MWP. But he shouldn't be playing the 4. It's nonsense.. It's not even smart basketball because it then stretches everyone else into minutes they don't need. Did it to Kobe, Did it to Meeks, put Morris at the 2, took Jamison out of the rotation, and if not for Hill showing out 1 game, he wouldn't play either.

Jamison should be getting 15 at the 4. Hill should be getting 17.

If we are not going to play Jamison, we should not keep him on the bench not playing. It would be time to ask him what he wants. If we can't give him time, and he wants out, let him pick his teams (Bobcats are his #1). And we try to get someone that fits the needs we have.
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post #12507 of 34774
12/28/12 at 6:46pm
Random stat of the day...

Although he doesn't meet the qualifications He's about 4-5 mpg short.

But if Jordan Hill were to play at the same level for 5 extra minutes a game as he does in the 15.2 mpg that he plays...

He'd be 1st in Offensive Rebound Percentage.. And 8th in Total Rebound Percentage.

In 15.2 minutes per game he's 6 & 5.5.

Per 36 minutes. He's 14.2 & 13.1

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post #12508 of 34774
12/28/12 at 6:54pm
Trade Jamison for Sessions! happy.gif
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12/28/12 at 6:56pm
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Trade Jamison for Sessions! happy.gif

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post #12510 of 34774
12/28/12 at 7:06pm

Play-by-play coming tonight. Get ready for tons of posts updating you on the game by yours truly.

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