Bulls offseason Thread

I being talking about Lance since the earlier part of the year. He should be the second choice if things don't work with Melo. Think about we can play him at the two and move Jimmy to his natural position which is the three. In addition i think he has all the tools to be a second scoring option. Defensively he got the tools he's already a good defender and Thibs will make him even better. Finally he's another ball handler and shot creator which is something we haven't had in a while. He can definitely take pressure of Rose and If Rose goes to the bench you can occasionally use him as the primary ball handler
 
what do you mean lessons our chances of keeping jimmy? he better be resigned!!! he’s ours we can go over the cap to keep him….the issue for the bulls is this is our last off season for many years to get a player in free agency making over the MLE….we have to soon sign jimmy, taj and noah…..i think bulls should resign guys for contracts that end when Rose’s deal ends, if he is done then we might have to remake the entire team.

guys our future is only bleak if Rose is a bust, otherwise look at our roster with vets and young talent are we that far off from the the spurs?
right now the heat are in very tough spot, they need a center and a PG and there are no options for them out there, they right now are looking for players to take less money again to join them, will be a lot tougher for players who know this could be their last contract ever.

it could be much worse bulls fans.
 
Go get lance at this point. I admit I was against it as well but the kid can play both sides of the ball. Also take into mind other than david west the coach and teammates have no control and are all mentally weak in Indy. Ppl only do what you allow, Lance wouldn't act out in Chicago I promise that.

As far as Melo like I always said he is who I thought he is, on one side you could say you respect the kid and wife perspective but your're a HIGHLY paid athlete these things come along with the job. Your wife is nothing more than a media personality with no talent, she can do her show and her lil cameos in chicago easily. Melo is going back to NY where he will win nothing and be nothing period, Phil Jackson cant save that sinking ship bruh
 
Seymore CAKE said:
Wait... Lance is selfish?
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Hibbert didn’t come out and identify the player directly to NBA.com’s David Aldridge, but he was talking about Lance Stephenson on March 28 after a loss in Washington, when he said “there’s some selfish dudes” in the locker room. …

After Stephenson missed out on the All-Star team, he changed. He started a bit of a personal vendetta against East coaches, wanting to personally send a message in those games, which took him further out of the flow on some nights, sources said. Overall, the team noticed a shift in Stephenson from a more team-oriented approach to a more self-oriented focus, where he started obsessing about his statistics. People within the team believed his upcoming free agency was also a motivating factor for Stephenson, who wanted to enhance his value, something he believed suffered when he didn’t get an All-Star nod. …

Stephenson’s act had long worn thin by late March. When the players had meetings to address issues with the sudden struggles, Stephenson sometimes wasn’t involved. Occasionally he appeared to be unaware they were even happening. Most players on the team, now that they were losing, shared similar feelings about Stephenson, but did not vocalize their problems publicly.
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Air273 said:
what do you mean lessons our chances of keeping jimmy? he better be resigned!!! he’s ours we can go over the cap to keep him…
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After the 2015 season only Rose and Taj will be under contract for 21.3 and 8.950 mill respectively.
While the bird rights will help us retain them, how much will the Bulls offer them? and how much will they really accept?

We won't know what the cap will look like by then, but if we're basing it on the upcoming season, we have two players who will be eating up half.

I'm just trying to be real and optimistic about our future here. Like I said I'm torn on Lance and I'm not sure if we should offer more than a 4/40. Mill contract with options.
 
i hear you but the bulls have for years paid very little $ into the tax, i think the lakers and knicks for their history have paid like 100 mil, bulls not even 10 mil thats only past 2 yeras(not 100% sure on this i recall hearing these numbers somewhere), now is the time to pay that when it happens, i don't want to hear crap oh if we give butler a 5 year 50 mil deal thats like giving him 5 years 80 mil, nonsense this team makes loads of money and has been banking it for years. if the nets can have 88 mil on their cap for 14-15 then the bulls better be able to do it when the time comes or sell the team if you can't handle owning a major franchise.

i just looked it up rose and taj are free agents after the 16/17 season. it really looks like this could be a last offseaon in a very long time to sign a 10+ mil a year player
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm
 
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I'm 100% with you @Air273

I'm just being optimistic with my comments.
I truly do hope that Reinsdorf has seen the evil in his ways and changes.
He has no problem throwing hundreds of millions into that shîttÿ minor league team on the south side that no ones pays to go see than on his basketball team on the west side that sells out every night and has a die hard fanbase.

*****BTW no diss to any sox fans on here, but I'm a die hard Cubs fan*****
 
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Ron Mercer tha gawd.
Dickey Simpkins tha gawd.
Eddie Robinson tha gawd.
Rick Brunson tha gawd.
Acie Law tha gawd.
Dalibor Bagoric tha gawd.
Linton Johnson tha gawd.
Lonny Baxter tha gawd.
Viktor Khryapha tha gawd.
Mike Sweetney tha gawd.
Jl3 tha gawd.
Corey Benjamin tha gawd.
Hersey Hawkins tha gawd.
Rusty LaRue tha gawd.
A.J. Guyton tha gawd.
Brad Miller tha gawd.
 
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:rofl: :rofl:

That's wrong AR....that's just like one of your homies posting a list of all the fat/ugly girls you smashed when you were drunk.
 
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Scouting Europe: A look at the newest Chicago Bull, Nikola Mirotic
by Sam Vecenie

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Three years after getting picked 23rd overall, Nikola Mirotic will be joining the NBA next season. Playing for powerhouse Real Madrid, the Montenegrin-born of Spanish citizenship has developed from a highly touted European prospect to one of the best players in the continent and the most highly-expected transfer to the NBA since Ricky Rubio.

Scouting Report
Mirotic is the rare combination of youth and experience, as he is about to enter his age-24 season with 4,800 minutes of high level pro ball already under his belt. He is just removed from a tremendous season, but one that faded a little in the end.

Mirotic looked fatigued in the Spanish league finals, playing without much energy, and was rumored to not be getting along well with head-coach Pablo Laso by that time. Real Madrid lost that series to arch-rival Barcelona 3-1, despite being the better team all season long and in most of their head-to-head matchups over the last couple of seasons, including a 38-point demolition in the Euroleague semifinal just a month earlier. Barça won two of those games late and one other by hitting an uncommon amount of three-pointers but Real Madrid just never looked like the team that had the superiority in talent, athleticism and the style of play Barça had struggled to deal with for two years. And Mirotic was a huge part of it. He logged fewer than 16 minutes per game in that series (down eight minutes from his season average), scored 30 points on 22 shots (down from his 1.56 point per shot season average) and grabbed four total rebounds in his 63 minutes.

His struggles against the highest level of competition started a month earlier, when he chose a bad day to have a bad day in the Euroleague championship game, which Real Madrid lost to Maccabi Tel Aviv in overtime. Maccabi guarded him with guys like David Blu and Ricky Hickman. They are shorter players, but have just as much core strength as Mirotic and he struggled to take advantage of them in the post. His stat line in that game was fine (12 points on 10 shots, seven rebounds and seven fouls drawn in 27 minutes), but those who watched that game noticed he didn’t have a great outing. He especially struggled down the stretch of regulation, when all Real Madrid did was go outside its normal pick-and-roll heavy offense to keep getting him isolated in the block.

If he really was fatigued (he looked fatigued to me but players always deal with nagging injuries and illnesses that we never get to know about), then it’s a bit of a cause for concern. The 1,800 minutes (73 games) he logged last season should be on par with what is expected of him in a normal NBA season, except that the pace of play is faster and the interval between games is shorter. But as far as I’m concerned, those late season struggles are the exception to the norm.

He was tremendous the vast majority of the season, an efficiency machine as an all-around scorer. According to in-the-game.org, Mirotic shot 69.5% on his 59 attempts at the rim, 41% on his 78 two-point jump-shots and 46.3% of his 82 three-point attempts, aside from averaging almost five free throw attempts per 28 pace-adjusted minutes in his 691 Euroleague minutes. He ranked second in the league in scoring per possession among power forwards who logged at least 200 minutes. In the Spanish league, he was seventh in scoring per shot and ranked third in offensive rating, per RealGM.com.

It’s his scoring versatility as a face-up power-forward that helps Mirotic project well for the NBA. Mirotic does not use his above average quickness to dive hard to the basket on the pick-and-roll as much as he should, showing a strong preference for operating on the perimeter. He is a great set shooter, with a fluid motion and an semi-quick release, which is actually an accomplishment considering he is taller than the average shooter and loads by bringing the ball down to hip level. Every team is looking to space the floor with big men who can shoot these days. Mirotic fits that criteria well, both as a spot-up threat camping beyond the three-point arc and working on the pick-and-pop with Derrick Rose. The pick-and-pop has hurt his ability to be a factor on the glass though, as Mirotic ranked outside the top 15 in offensive rebounding rate among power forwards in both leagues.

He is not particularly fast off the dribble, but is more mobile than the average six-foot-10, 230-pound player and got to the rim with some consistency in Europe. He doesn’t finish with authority — just 12 of his 499 points in the Spanish league came off dunks — but has tremendous touch to score around challengers within five feet. Mirotic does not dribble the ball as low as he should when attacking the basket on drives from the perimeter, which leaves him vulnerable to getting the ball stripped. That was not a problem in the European game (he posted an average turnover rate) but could be one in the NBA, where the arms are longer and the hands are more active.

Part of why he was so efficient is that Mirotic proved himself an intelligent player that rarely forced his way through non-existent driving lanes, plus hit his mid-range pull-ups with consistency. It’s questionable if that will translate as well to the NBA, though. He shouldn’t blow by many defenders with his average first step and the average NBA athlete recovers to contest shots a lot quicker European defenders. He does have a high release point thanks to his height and long arms, so he should get his shots off fine.

Mirotic also shows himself a capable passer, consistently making the obvious pass to teammates left open by helping defenders, but didn’t rank high in assist-rate among peers in either league. As mentioned above, he struggles against strong players on straight post ups. However, operating from the low block is a part of his game the Bulls shouldn’t quit developing, as Mirotic has the shooting touch and high release point to be really effective on fadeaway, turnaround jumpers if he gains more strength to set up defenders properly.

Mirotic projects quite well as a defender in Tom Thibodeau’s system. Thibodeau is known as a very demanding coach, but he will certainly like how much he has to work with in Mirotic, who has proven himself both intelligent and a hard worker on that end. He has the mobility to hedge and recover on pick-and-rolls, which is the strategy Thibodeau prefers in order to keep the opponent from getting to the middle of the lane. And he was remarkably attentive to his help responsibilities, bumping opponents and crashing inside to protect the basket when his front court-mate was hedging or trapping on the perimeter, then showing good agility to go back to his man.

Statistically, Real Madrid actually defended better without him in the Spanish league. However, that can be explained by him logging a lot of minutes with Ioannis Bourousis at center, a bad defender, and Real Madrid’s second unit featuring Felipe Reyes and Marcus Slaughter upfront, two excellent defenders.

His lack of core strength also hurts him defending the post, but very few teams have the type of post scorer and commitment to keep going to that player enough to take advantage of that. His rebounding is more concerning. He rebounded fine in the Spanish league, but ranked 27th in the Euroleague in defensive rebounding rate among power forwards, grabbing only 16% of opponents’ misses. Bourousis is a good rebounder but definitely not good enough to suppress his teammates’ rebounding opportunities. Mirotic is a big player, but doesn’t have a big rebounding area and doesn’t go after the ball with a lot of intensity.

Overall, Mirotic should be a good addition to the Bulls. There are some legitimate question marks here, but if they can be ironed out he will translate well to the league.
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^I feel the same way.

I don't think I remember getting caught up in the off-season stuff during the MJ/Scottie/PJax run. Thank you social media.
 
dont know whats going on in warmville but bosh got offered the max from houston 4/88 & warm just signed josh mcroberts 4/23 & danny granger

whatever....

copped this over the weekend

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Merica :pimp:
 
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If I'm Bosh I'd jump on that.
Bron wants max.
Heat trying to low ball Bosh.
Wade will still want 10+
They might've just used whatever lil cap space they had on Mcbob and Granger.

Either way nice shirt CC!
 
This whole FA is like a train wreck that I can'tlook away from. I try to do anything and find myself back on here, realgm or facebook. then to make it worse it feels like my tv is stuck on espn. I shoulda taken a vacation like the stars did to avoid all of this

It may be the henny talking but I just feel in my gut that Melo will do the right thing, shock the world and help Rose and Noah bring home the chip. Yeh it might be the henny.

CA, social media has exposed all that's wrong with the world. The superstars should be ashamed of themselves trying to milk it up. Everyone already knows your name, you're getting paid millions to play a game, and it still isn't enough.
 
^^ LOL. Should have been in the meeting with Melo haha.

KC Johnson wrote that Melo might be using the Lakers as leverage to sign and trade to Chi. We'll see...too much anticipation man!!
 
@Juice, the Henny is typing. I'm just on one right now

It just seems crazy that he would waste two more years minimum just to have more money. Like Chappelle said, the lifestyle difference is slight.

#MeloMadnessonMadison
 
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