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that was after da 2000's.

it was regarded very effective in da early 90's...you can argue our sustained peace is da fruits of those early years...

It was regarded effective then because America was frothing at the mouth over "Tough on crime" policies due to the historically high crime rates of the 80s.
But in 2017 we have the 20/20 vision of hindsight. Not only did it disproportionally target minorities, it was ineffective at actually discovering any crime.
I can argue that the earth is a dodecahedron and my **** tastes like rainbows but being able to argue something doesnt make one's argument true.
 
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It was regarded effective then because America was frothing at the mouth over "Tough on crime" policies due to the historically high crime rates of the 80s.
But in 2017 we have the 20/20 vision of hindsight. Not only did it disproportionally target minorities, it was ineffective at actually discovering any crime.

actually prison reform advocates would argue both would be correct.

da problem with stop and frisk and broken windows is they didn't moderate it once crime did start to fall in a profound way.
 
"I'm the most not angry person here." LMFAO
he so tender bruh

From the article:
I just got fantastic poll numbers,” the president said, listing what he saw as his biggest accomplishments, including a focus on deregulation and low unemployment rates. He did not cite any specific polls or reveal any numbers from Ms. McDaniel.

I’m in the office early and leave late; it’s very smooth,” Mr. Trump said. “Honestly,” the president added, “I’m really enjoying it.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/trump-russia-charges.html?referer=https://t.co/4C0YAH7qUs?amp=1
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actually prison reform advocates would argue both would be correct.

da problem with stop and frisk and broken windows is they didn't moderate it once crime did start to fall in a profound way.
No, the problem is that they disproportionately targeted latinos and african americans, as the SC determined in its cases and the NYPD found in its own research.
 
This guy... :smh::lol: How does this help him and the tax plan?
It's almost like he's actively trying to piss off his associates. How hard is it to just stay focused and help push tax reform forward?
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/trump-tax-reform-mnuchin-cohn-244419
Trump: 'I will be blaming Mnuchin and Cohn' for any trouble with tax reform
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and economic adviser Gary Cohn will stay in Washington as the president travels to Asia — and they can shoulder the blame if tax reform fails.

“Key administration officials, including Secretary Mnuchin and Gary Cohn, will be staying back from the trip to Asia to remain vigilant and making sure the tax cuts pass,” the president told reporters during a Cabinet meeting at the White House. “So if I have any problems, I will be blaming Mnuchin and Cohn. Believe me, they’ll be hearing from me.”


People in the room laughed at the remark. But Trump also said that Mnuchin and Cohn will “do very well.” He said his administration is already “doing very well.”

House Republicans are expected to unveil their bill on Thursday. They delayed their initial unveiling, which was expected Wednesday morning, to finalize key details. In Trump’s telling: “They have taken a few extra hours.”

“The House, I must tell you, they’ve been working really hard, and they’ve been coming up with a great plan,” Trump said. “And the Senate’s coming up with a great plan. And they’re gonna be put together, and something’s going to come out of that that will be, I think, really, really something very special.”
 
No, the problem is that they disproportionately targeted latinos and african americans, as the SC determined in its cases and the NYPD found in its own research.

compstat led em to da crime is what NYPD brass would tell you.
 
This guy... :smh::lol: How does this help him and the tax plan?
It's almost like he's actively trying to piss off his associates. How hard is it to just stay focused and help push tax reform forward?
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/01/trump-tax-reform-mnuchin-cohn-244419
Trump: 'I will be blaming Mnuchin and Cohn' for any trouble with tax reform
President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and economic adviser Gary Cohn will stay in Washington as the president travels to Asia — and they can shoulder the blame if tax reform fails.

“Key administration officials, including Secretary Mnuchin and Gary Cohn, will be staying back from the trip to Asia to remain vigilant and making sure the tax cuts pass,” the president told reporters during a Cabinet meeting at the White House. “So if I have any problems, I will be blaming Mnuchin and Cohn. Believe me, they’ll be hearing from me.”


People in the room laughed at the remark. But Trump also said that Mnuchin and Cohn will “do very well.” He said his administration is already “doing very well.”

House Republicans are expected to unveil their bill on Thursday. They delayed their initial unveiling, which was expected Wednesday morning, to finalize key details. In Trump’s telling: “They have taken a few extra hours.”

“The House, I must tell you, they’ve been working really hard, and they’ve been coming up with a great plan,” Trump said. “And the Senate’s coming up with a great plan. And they’re gonna be put together, and something’s going to come out of that that will be, I think, really, really something very special.”

You can add them to the "scorned and broken" list soon....
 
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