***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[gwap]

She's a republican who learned how to exploit lefty's

Her entire aura was "i come from nothing like you and worked my way to the top" but actually just sued a bank and has no actual experience in business other than selling her image as a businesswoman.,

It's parallel to Drumpf

 

[blco02]

She's a republican who learned how to exploit lefty's

No, she's not.

http://www.advocate.com/news/daily-news/2012/01/12/suze-orman-says-she-couldn39t-vote-republican

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...o-have-written-political-checks-this-election

 

[whywesteppin]

believe it or not, there are responsible Americans working hard who can't afford to take time off to go to the dmv or *gasp* bum around all day posting on NT. I know it's hard for some of us to comprehend. so let's not strain ourselves. let's just go on with our great lives.

btw, Drumpf Hitler doesn't really understand democracy. can't wait for mcfly to punch him.

 

[rillo561]

Suze is definitely a snake, same with that "rich dad, poor dad" guy

 

[cl-1b]

 
Originally Posted by CL-1B  
  and you keep mentioning white supremacy like black supremacy doesn't exist brother

 
Respect to the ones that do good..

NBPP tho? This is more of what i was talking about - 

 


It's about reparations tho he says it at the end of the interview.. Its not about suppressing racist issues. That isn't going to solve the problem. 

 

[cl-1b]

 

But minority citizens have the ability to get an ID card.

It seems like an easy task for you and I, but it's not so simple for the poor, elderly, uneducated, and others who may face certain social obstacles

A lot of people who are eligible to vote don't even have cars...or they may live in a rural area that is hours away from a place where they could get an ID...or they lack the money that it costs to get an ID

It's not as cut and dry as "go to the DMV and get your ID"

All these "or's" don't just affect black people fam. Everyone has to abide by these laws. Obviously if someone is that lethargic or incapable they would at least need Public benefit. You can't even get that without an ID 

Here is a list of what you could possibly need an ID for in NYC. http://www.nyc.gov/html/id/html/why/why.shtml

 

[cl-1b]

 
She's a republican who learned how to exploit lefty's

Her entire aura was "i come from nothing like you and worked my way to the top" but actually just sued a bank and has no actual experience in business other than selling her image as a businesswoman.,

It's parallel to Drumpf

Besides her being a member of the LGBT community, her business was also sued in 2009 for insurance related fraud 

http://www.forbes.com/2009/05/16/fr...surance-personal-finance-suze-orman-sued.html

I won't sit here and ignore the Trump University civil suit tho. Thats prob the most negative thing they have on him even though more then half of the people that attended claimed they were very satisfied. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/02/n...-university-may-proceed-court-rules.html?_r=0

 

[noskey]

Well, thats your opinion I suppose. How will Trump help you?

de-regulation of business, reasonable tax. He actually understands cashflows and how to reduce these ridiculous trade deficits we have with places like china and mexico. And my favorite- i don't think he is afraid to go to Washington, clean house and gut everything and everyone that is not needed or corrupt. If we had a reset button for DC.. he would push it. The other stuff isn't as relevant to me i guess.. but we also need to reform the health care atrocity as well. The medical field has become the "ask the insurance company if it is ok if i do this procedure" field.. Its completely backwards. Thats what you get when you have a lawyer in office for 8 years i suppose.  

He's going to deregulate business, by forcing them to make products in the US, because if they don't he'll raise import tariffs to the point of it being too expensive to import them?

And he can't "clean house" in DC. The people elect the House and the Senate. So, strike 2.

My favorite? Deregulation of business is what gave insurance companies the power to be what they are today.

3 strikes, good attempt though.


And that you can support someone who, on multiple occasions, said he'd commit war crimes and murder innocent people, is terribly disheartening. Only someone who is so blinded by hatred of those being targeted would support that notion.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

Is it plausible to say that other issues besides race have an involvement in these instances or is it blamed directly on racism? I'm sure not every cop is a white man.. Police forces are pretty diverse unless its alabama somewhere. Lawyers and how much they cost are a huge factor of conviction rates. Im not saying black folk can't afford an attorney.. but its just big picture speculation. 

The bootstrap ideology works because it is proven that it works. Every person might not have the same will and drive, i understand this. But opportunity in this country is available to everyone.. not just white people. There have been tons of people that have made it in america this way form all walks of life.

What other things could it be that explains why black people are disproportionately affected?

And just like I said you don't have to be white to perpetuate white supremacy (the syetem) cops of all color can perpetuate the racial bias that is statistically prevelant when it comes to minorities and police. It's about those with power vs those that don't. You can take active racism out of the equation if you want That's fine. I don't believe every cop or judge is a secret KKK member. That's not what institutional racism is and no one here is claiming for it to be. But explain to me then, why are black people and other minorities DISPROPORTIONATELY targeted and affected negatively in so many corners of life? Is it more plausible to say that collectively there is something wrong with that group of people? That group of people who are all different, with different life experiences, and different thought processes. Or is it more plausible that the system it self just isn't designed in their favor?

How is it that the boot strap ideology works if the overwhelming MAJORITY (70%) of people live and die in the same socioeconomic class theyre born into. So 70% of those born in poverty will stay in poverty. Does it make more sense to say that 70% of poor people stay poor because they're unwilling to work hard and are lazy, or that the struggles, pitfalls, lack of quality education and opportunity and mental shackles that come with poverty and being generationally poor creates an environment that most people can't overcome?

 

[cl-1b]

 

 

Well, thats your opinion I suppose. How will Trump help you?

de-regulation of business, reasonable tax. He actually understands cashflows and how to reduce these ridiculous trade deficits we have with places like china and mexico. And my favorite- i don't think he is afraid to go to Washington, clean house and gut everything and everyone that is not needed or corrupt. If we had a reset button for DC.. he would push it. The other stuff isn't as relevant to me i guess.. but we also need to reform the health care atrocity as well. The medical field has become the "ask the insurance company if it is ok if i do this procedure" field.. Its completely backwards. Thats what you get when you have a lawyer in office for 8 years i suppose.  

He's going to deregulate business, by forcing them to make products in the US, because if they don't he'll raise import tariffs to the point of it being too expensive to import them?

And he can't "clean house" in DC. The people elect the House and the Senate. So, strike 2.

My favorite? Deregulation of business is what gave insurance companies the power to be what they are today.

3 strikes, good attempt though.


And that you can support someone who, on multiple occasions, said he'd commit war crimes and murder innocent people, is terribly disheartening. Only someone who is so blinded by hatred of those being targeted would support that notion.

I thought you left's get your panties in a bunch when corporations move across the border? Funny how you guys over taxed and regulated business to start that domino effect 

Obviously your sort of clueless when it comes down to some of these things as i can tell.. so I'm not going to waste much of my time sitting here typing to you because it isn't worth my time.. BUT

 the ACA/ObamaCare is the reason insurance companies are operating the way they are. So no, deregulation is not the reason. 

And obviously you missed the part where i said "If we had a reset button for DC.. he would push it". In america we call this sarcasm. Your another looney leftist that doesn't understand over-regulation or a lick of business so do some research before you come accusing me of things you don't know about. 
Now we begin to hear the basis of speculation and hearsay.. with black people being white supremacists, KKK members and so on. I'm done 

 

[cashbanks]

I'll never get the point of these circle jerks with dudes who are either clearly trolling or just willfully ignorant.

 

[rillo561]

Just nothing but talking points and hot key terms.

 

[dathbgboy]

Suze out there puttin the moves on erbody, smh. Noticed she mentioned how she was able to get a gig due to Affirmative Action

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

Now we begin to hear the basis of speculation and hearsay.. with black people being white supremacists, KKK members and so on. I'm done 

I clearly said that I don't believe judges or police kkk members or share their actively hateful thoughts . Because despite the fact that myself and other repeatedly say we aren't talking about racism in the sense of "I hate black people" or lynching people. You refuse And ignore the fact that white supremacy and racism exist outside of your definition of people in white hoods. You said to consider other factors beside race, and I asked you to explain why members of a certain race are disproportionately affected on so many different levels? You chose to ignore it completely. That's the deflection people keep accusing you of. You're clearly not interested in having a constructive conversation.

 

[noskey]

I'll never get the point of these circle jerks with dudes who are either clearly trolling or just willfully ignorant.

I just want to be as smart and educated as our resident Trump supporter

 

[cl-1b]

 

I love when people try to defend themselves by posting even more ridiculous sh...



This dude said "black supremacy" though? Apparently the BLM movement and the panthers have been poisoning white people's water in Aspen.

I've been reading your past posts and you are clearly a racist.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

I don't know why you guys are still taking his opinion seriously, dude still hasn't figured out the difference between "your" and "you're".

 

[cl-1b]

Now we begin to hear the basis of speculation and hearsay.. with black people being white supremacists, KKK members and so on. I'm done 

I clearly said that I don't believe judges or police kkk members or share their actively hateful thoughts . Because despite the fact that myself and other repeatedly say we aren't talking about racism in the sense of "I hate black people" or lynching people. You refuse And ignore the fact that white supremacy and racism exist outside of your definition of people in white hoods. You said to consider other factors beside race, and I asked you to explain why members of a certain race are disproportionately affected on so many different levels? You chose to ignore it completely. That's the deflection people keep accusing you of. You're clearly not interested in having a constructive conversation.

No, I just hear plenty of excuses from unsuccesful people saying that the white man is out to get them. When you speak to educated successful people of color they don't talk like that. That's all I'm saying. But come to NT your automatically branded a klansmen if you disagree. My opinion will not change based on conversation here.. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand.

 

[cl-1b]

I don't know why you guys are still taking his opinion seriously, dude still hasn't figured out the difference between "your" and "you're".

But let's compare w2's and see if that matters.. Because on my end clearly it doesn't.

 

[cl-1b]

I've been reading your past posts and you are clearly a racist.

Dude man stop bringing up the past that's racist, slavery was a million years ago, black people have equal opportunities to succeed but they keep messing up because they have bad values and bad culture. Am I doing it right?

No not really. Show me rhetoric that is current law that makes black people the victim and I will sympathize with you. Go ahead, I'll wait

 

[cl-1b]

All these laws you speak of on here are plausible to every citizen in the nation. [emoji]128521[/emoji]

 

[noskey]

Anton, chill, black people arent legally discriminated against anymore; Obama was elected, we all know that means racism is dead.

 

[cl-1b]

No not really. Show me rhetoric that is current law that makes black people the victim and I will sympathize with you. Go ahead, I'll wait

I'm not gonna show you anything, that's like a 90 year old white racist from Kentucky asking me to explain institutionalized racism, I literally have a better shot at discussing organic chemistry with a baboon.


I'm not gonna play that game, all I can do is sit here and be baffled by how stupid certain people in this country are.

[emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] you have nothing that's why. There are just racist people. That will exist everywhere I don't care what you say

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

No, I just hear plenty of excuses from unsuccesful people saying that the white man is out to get them. When you speak to educated successful people of color they don't talk like that. That's all I'm saying. But come to NT your automatically branded a klansmen if you disagree. My opinion will not change based on conversation here.. That's what I'm trying to get you to understand.

And I know just as many successful black people, myself included that believe we have succeeded despite the odds, not because the odds don't exist. And as so many people have showed you in this thread statistically those "odds" are greater for black people.

 

[cl-1b]

And you seem to be one of them