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[mister friendly]

Why is ninjahood sticking up for conservatives so much when he's a centrist?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Famb you educate no one about nothing.

Don't delude yourself that the push back on your comments is because people can't handle a differing opinion, it is because you spew ignorance on all matters of importance.

And when you get check, you move goal post, deflect, dismmiss valid points, throw out red herrings, and construct straw men

 

[frankmatthews]

vigorous intellectual debate

 

[ninjahood]

Fixed.


But im neither.

And what da hell is a "normal conservative"? im starting to think those are da ones da left likes to pass all their budgets and never put up a fight...hence da rise of da tea party.

A conservative that isn't a racist bigot. 

Da problem with this is "liberals" subscribe to "systemic racist oppression" that demonizes what you call "normal conservatives" that tend to vote or advocate for conservative policies and you'll just emd up calling em racist bigots anyway..

Ill give you an example. Voter ID laws.
Whats da problem? I got an ID, im a minority.. Dimelo? If voter ID laws are passed all of a sudden its "racist discrimination" and im like [emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]128580[/emoji]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Fixed.


But im neither.

And what da hell is a "normal conservative"? im starting to think those are da ones da left likes to pass all their budgets and never put up a fight...hence da rise of da tea party.

A conservative that isn't a racist bigot. 

Da problem with this is "liberals" subscribe to "systemic racist oppression" that demonizes what you call "normal conservatives" that tend to vote or advocate for conservative policies and you'll just emd up calling em racist bigots anyway..

Ill give you an example. Voter ID laws.
Whats da problem? I got an ID, im a minority.. Dimelo? If voter ID laws are passed all of a sudden its "racist discrimination" and im like [emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]128580[/emoji]

 

[Belgium]

Da problem with this is "liberals" subscribe to "systemic racist oppression" that demonizes what you call "normal conservatives" that tend to vote or advocate for conservative policies and you'll just emd up calling em racist bigots anyway..

Ill give you an example. Voter ID laws.
Whats da problem? I got an ID, im a minority.. Dimelo? If voter ID laws are passed all of a sudden its "racist discrimination" and im like [emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]128580[/emoji]

And this is exactly why people call you uneducated and ignorant.

Dismissing systemic racism as some sort of liberal fantasy and making blanket statements about liberals in the same sentence 

And you have absolutely zero clue of how voter ID laws are used to suppress minority votes.

 

[ninjahood]

Why is ninjahood sticking up for conservatives so much when he's a centrist?

Im a centrist wit libertarian streaks, i seen my results on i sidewith.. To a liberal OF COURSE it looks conservative

This place skews super liberal thats y...its almost boring listening to da same **** i hear on NPR everyday...like da problem with some of ya liberals is ya JUST as much in a echo chamber as these conservatives.

So when ya call every single conservative here racist bigots, where's da balance?

Me being a centrist (and a libra) i like balance.

Hearing rusty & colombia's left slant over and over again is [emoji]128564[/emoji]

Not to mention NTers like crsballer(my bad if i butchered ur SN lol) wit da Scott pollard Avi ALWAYS drops gems from da right side..you never see him here cuz this thread is hostile to opposing views.

Im a Hispanic minority.... Its EASY being a liberal... You just gotta pretend like you care, and dont worry about how demonstrable liberal polices actually are
Because da shield of "good intention" of social justice is next to godliness in its purity.

Like fams..i can emulate being a liberal all day it all about feeling good and get someone else to pay for it...and everything is "unfair!!!"

Problem is after awhile u run outta other people's money.

Home boy said it best earlier "troll progressive"

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

Fixed.

But im neither.

And what da hell is a "normal conservative"? im starting to think those are da ones da left likes to pass all their budgets and never put up a fight...hence da rise of da tea party.

But when have you ever "checked" someone and they started crying about how you're trying to take away their freedom of speech?

 

[slighted]

@RustyShackleford

@ninjahood

@blco02

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@Colombia

@Mister Friendly

@FrankMatthews

What are your opinions on libertarian policies?

 

[ninjahood]

Da problem with this is "liberals" subscribe to "systemic racist oppression" that demonizes what you call "normal conservatives" that tend to vote or advocate for conservative policies and you'll just emd up calling em racist bigots anyway..


Ill give you an example. Voter ID laws.

Whats da problem? I got an ID, im a minority.. Dimelo? If voter ID laws are passed all of a sudden its "racist discrimination" and im like [emoji]129300[/emoji][emoji]128580[/emoji]

And this is exactly why people call you uneducated and ignorant.
Dismissing systemic racism as some sort of liberal fantasy and making blanket statements about liberals in the same sentence 
And you have absolutely zero clue of how voter ID laws are used to suppress minority votes.

And this is why Trump is where he at..you

Cant talk to liberals without da stench of

smug condescension. So repug. :x


That was literally your 1st sentence.

 

[Belgium]

And this is why Trump is where he at..you

Cant talk to liberals without da stench of

smug condescension. So repug.

That was literally your 1st sentence.

When you say something incredibly ignorant, don't be surprised when someone calls you out on it.

Don't make ignorant statements and you won't have this problem.

 

[ninjahood]

@RustyShackleford

@ninjahood

@blco02

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@Colombia

@Mister Friendly

@FrankMatthews


What are your opinions on libertarian policies?

Libertarians are like drivers that can flex a 500hp car with no nanny controls and expect everyone else to do da same, or dont cop da car.

I eff w/ em like that...but some LIGHT regulations are needed in da world, cuz hey..not EVERYONE can flex a 500hp car w/ no nannies.

 

[ninjahood]

And this is why Trump is where he at..you


Cant talk to liberals without da stench of


smug condescension. So repug. :x



That was literally your 1st sentence.

When you say something incredibly ignorant, don't be surprised when someone calls you out on it.
Don't make ignorant statements and you won't have this problem.

You're coming across as smug because you only represent ONE side of da argument and acting like its da only side.

Meanwhile no ATTEMPT to understand da opposing side of da issue is sought out whatsoever... Straight bunker mentality.

 

[Belgium]

You're coming across as smug because you only represent ONE side of da argument and acting like its da only side.

Meanwhile no ATTEMPT to understand da opposing side of da issue is sought out whatsoever... Straight bunker mentality.

You are free to argument on why you think systemic racism is some liberal fantasy constructed to demonize conservatives.

The problem is that more often than not, you deflect and refuse to answer questions directly. Feel free to look through my post history, I enjoy debating with opposing views. You're acting like you're being demonized for having opposing views. No. You're being demonized for your offensive lack of understanding of systemic racism, how it is applied and its effects on society.

Your dismissal of systemic racism as a liberal fantasy is a slap in the face of any minority, including yourself and your family.

 

[rexanglorum]

Ninja, I have to ask. If you believe that liberals have fabricated White Supremacy, why do you believe they are doing so? What motivation do liberals have for lying about race relations?

 

[ninjahood]

Your dismissal of systemic racism as a iberal fantasy is a slap in the face of anyminority

In YOUR opinion as a liberal.
Cuz in MY experience AS a minority in 2016 haven't felt ANY of such theorized conjured academia.

So stop talking like you know all things about all minorities, cuz u dont speak for every single one.

 

[Belgium]

In YOUR opinion as a liberal.
Cuz in MY experience AS a minority in 2016 haven't felt ANY of such theorized conjured academia.

So stop talking like you know all things about all minorities, cuz u dont speak for every single one.

 

Anecdotal evidence is not grounds for complete dismissal of a major societal issue. I've never been robbed or know anyone that has been robbed does that mean crime is a fantasy?

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

I'd like to see a counter to the existence of systemic racism that doesn't have its basis on the myth of the model minority

 

[AEA18]

Ninja, I have to ask. If you believe that liberals have fabricated White Supremacy, why do you believe they are doing so? What motivation do liberals have for lying about race relations?

The left tries SO hard to create division and in-fighting within the country. Chaos and pitting groups against each other leads to anarchy which is what they seek.

I notice it, but where da left is hyper partisan with compartmentalizing everyone

Da right advocates assimilation which strips da essence of who you are to adopt something else which definitely created this amalgamation of "white" and "black"

Da US is where cultures go to die..its changing thanks to da Internet so u can in your own ethnic entertainment bubble but thats now.

3-4 generations down my kids and say ksteezys kids wont look at eachother and feel a common bond, other than being american but everything else will by skin deep as far as categorization.

Big bad lefty's

 

[Master Zik]

Man yall need to stop living in the past with all that well wishing

Donald Trump is not Ronald Reagan.

The GOP of today is not the GOP of da 90s.

Time to start facing reality.

Why is ninjahood sticking up for conservatives so much when he's a centrist?

He aint defending a conservative. He defending a bigot that claims to be a conservative.

 

[ninjahood]

Ninja, I have to ask. If you believe that liberals have fabricated White Supremacy, why do you believe they are doing so? What motivation do liberals have for lying about race relations?

I feel its advantageous to their liberal cause to stir up da racial demagoguery because of da continued monolithic black vote, its a politics chess move to keep minorities voting 1 way and scare them from ever leaving da Democratic party. (Its over 85-90% blacks voting Democrat).

You never notice how when a black minority is outta step with da liberal orthadoxy they're called "uncle toms" "tap dancin" "sambos" etc.

So instead of voting for his individual self interest (lets say he's black business owner getting killed with Obama care regulations) da "white supremacy" narrative certain makes it extremely unlikely he'll vote GOP cuz da liberals have engaged in identity character associations & assassinations. They know if they lose even a INCH of black support da Democratic party would never win any elections. So da demagoguery continues.

Hispanics are like free agents to this politics thing, we aren't a monolithic voting block da way blacks are, thats why both parties do their best to pander to us, black people should be feeling some type of way that liberals & democrats dont try to earn their vote because in da back of their mind "we got these folks in our pocket already".

Tavis Smiley, Stephen A. Smith, and other blacks from da left & right have all said da same thing.

 

[frankmatthews]

@RustyShackleford

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@Mister Friendly

@FrankMatthews


What are your opinions on libertarian policies?

Whos libertarian policies?

Everything can sound good in a vaccum but the population is already programmed, most notably to consume beyond reason. Nothing good will come from libertarianism, socialism, anarchy, communism ect. if you try to apply it to the current population. Rules or policies are made to be sidesteped and more often than not we err on the side of greed and materialism. Imo systems of government ultimately depend on the purpose of life, and if there is no purpose then it doesnt really matter.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Black people don't vote Democratic because they are pressured to do so. Black people from all walks of life, poor to educated, southerner to northerner, native born or immigrant tend to vote Democrat. And they do this because the Democrats, while not great, is the only viable option to most

The GOP has literally left the black community no other choice. Right after the Civil Rights act gets passed, they nominate Barry Goldwater, then right after that the began the Southern Strategy. People like Ron Paul (criminal justice reform) or Jack Kemp (on racism and inequity) get laughed out the room when the bring up examples of the plight of the black community.

This Atlantic article discusses it nicely:

The relationship between African Americans and the Republican Party has continued in much of the same vein for decades, with few deviations. For every robust black-outreach operation there’s been a “Welfare Queen” or “Willie Horton” campaign; for every Jack Kemp who’s outspoken about racism and inequality, there’s a louder voice insisting that black people are the “real” racists. And for every fragile attempt to craft substantive policy that addresses black issues, like the REDEEM Act, there’s an aggressive attempt to dismantle the important gains of the civil-rights era, like the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/why-trump-is-doomed-with-black-voters/477537/

And look at the candidates for this election. The biggest issue facing the black community is criminal justice reform, yet you don't here a peep from the GOP candidates on this issues.

If you want black voters, catering to the needs of the community. Stop vilifying them to pander to your base.

And they ignore the fact that white Southern's vote against the self interest in droves to support the GOP. LINK

White supremacy and other forms of systemic bias is not some imaginary boogie man, it is the reality of America Life. The GOP has chosen to align themselves with it for political gain. Don't fault black voters for punishing them for it.

I would LOVE if the GOP actually started to tear down system racism, became a true moderate business friendly party, and told racist conservatives to go kick a can. Then our politics would be much less toxic, black people would have a choice.

But they won't, they rely on racism dog whistles to excite their base.

It is the GOP that needs to try something new, not black voters.

 

[ninjahood]

The biggest issue facing the black community is criminal justice reform, yet you don't here a peep from the GOP candidates on this issues.

Guess Rand paul and da WHOLE SECT of libertarians just dont exist anymore..

And business GOP globalists told their grass roots they "deserve to die out"

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/12/national-review-writer-working-class-communities-deserve-to-die/

National Review’s Kevin Williamson believes Donald Trump’s appeals to the white working class are “immoral” because that demographic’s way of life deserves to die out.

In a featured article for the prestigious conservative journal entitled “The Father-Fuhrer,” Williamson seeks to rebut criticism that he and other conservatives don’t articulate any policies that would appeal to Trump’s blue collar supporters.

Williamson, a long-time critic of The Donald, essentially agrees that he doesn’t support any policies or rhetoric directly tailored to the working-class — particularly about jobs being taken by outsourcing and immigration — because it would be wrong to do so.

You know who else that effects? Da black working class.

"White supremacy" politics is strictly a play to protect da Democratic black vote...

Cuz Democrats been rocking with 60+ years wit da black vote...has poverty changed? Has population number crept up as a success of voting for 1 party only? Ill let u tell it. [emoji]128064[/emoji] :

 

[RustyShackleford]

-I was referring to the current candidates pa. But my bad, I should have said that frimly

But yes, I have to give it to Rand, he is the one guy on the right that does. So overall, with candidates that made it to the primary the GOP had like 1 outta 12, where as the Dems had 3 out of 3

Cool

-And the ole, 60 years of voting Democrat has caused nothing to happening. Implying it is somehow the black communities fault, and the Dems/liberals have been able to put into whatever programs they wants as will

Maybe the GOP should get interested in helping the black community too. Then things can get better quicker, and they could get some votes.