***Official Political Discussion Thread***

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Ninjahood is now trying to paint empathy as an undesirable trait

That's happening right now

 

[ninjahood]

[Video]

Here's more of those "deflections"

20 Trillion dollars..in debt now.

U seen our Trade defict?

Deficits biggers than our ENTIRE GDP...

Who care thou right? Bernie hooking everyone up wit da free ****

Man...you know what? Ya deserve Bernie or Hillary

8 more years of this...brought to you by da folks on da left [emoji]129303[/emoji][emoji]128079[/emoji][/Video]

 

[RustyShackleford]

We owe 20 trillion dollars.

Obama DOUBLED da debt...AFTER Bush JR.

You seen Hillary's budget?

You seen Bernie's

Yo eff it..lets vote for bernie, free everything!

Black Reparations in da mail? Sure!

Highest corporate income tax in da world? Eff it its not high enuff..crank that to 60%..if taxes are good more is better right?

How is anyone gonna have anything left to invest and create new jobs? Who CARES! Let da government figure it out

Let Obama sign da TPP, who cares about ANYTHING other than NY & California..let fly over country return to da backwards hick dustbowl it always was...

Obamacare premiums bankrupting you? Who cares go on Medicaid... Im sure da whatever country that hasn't left overseas via corporate inversion will pick up da tab...

Lets open up those abortion laws..lets crank it all da way up to partial birth abortions no limits ALL 50 states.. Who cares about unborn children right? As long as i "care" about my women vote *cough* i mean body...

As long as i "care" im right..see? And if u disagree you're a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe.

its tooo easy.

I have never seen so much nonsensical rambling on one page. Few quick points.

Most people, by a large margin, get their health insurance subsidized from the government.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/most-americans-get-free-stuff-from-the-government/

Everyone in the country gets **** for the government. The rich and large corporations get the most actually

Broken down by states, the biggest recipients of "welfare" are red states. Ole da irony

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/2012/09/17/where-do-the-47-percent-live/

And you know little to nothing about economic, the way you hope between economic philosophies make my head hurts, I don't expect you to down how government spending can be used to stimulate the economy, and how regulation can actually lead to more efficient and equitable outcomes.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Dude has no idea how much the Bush tax cuts, or the Iraq war has cost this country

And dude is on a welfare program complaining about people wanting free **** :x

 

[ninjahood]

Hmm who extended those bush tax cuts twice? [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who is da Drone Commander in Chief? [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who DOUBLED da debt AFTER Bush left office AND ended da sequester which if left alone would eventually balanced da budget? [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who gets ANY BUDGET EVER ASKED signed and sent to his desk inspite of Republican opposition? [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who cares though right? Bernie for da free **** 2016

And while we're at it? Minimum wage to $40 an hour, that should be a livable wage..dont tell me its not fair! Who cares if robots are gonna eliminate those jobs as a reaction move by companies... Making entitled lefites feel good is all that matters [emoji]129303[/emoji]

National debt? Pssshh..who cares ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

All said from da rent controlled palace on high. Da government is his daddy & he don't eem know it

 

[ninjahood]

All said from da rent controlled palace on high. Da government is his daddy & he don't eem know it

Take it away, go ahead..matter fact render it completely gone and lets bet who falls first, NYC or San Francisco.

Meanwhile my "low information" self been invested on DR, so when they place turns to COMPLETE ****? I got mine already. Lets go thou, burn all this **** down [emoji]128133[/emoji]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Hmm who extended those bush tax cuts twice? [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who is da Drone Commander in Chief? [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who DOUBLED da debt AFTER Bush left office AND ended da sequester which if left alone would eventually balanced da budget? [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who gets ANY BUDGET EVER ASKED signed and sent to his desk inspite of Republican opposition? [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who cares though right? Bernie for da free **** 2016

And while we're at it? Minimum wage to $40 an hour, that should be a livable wage..dont tell me its not fair! Who cares if robots are gonna eliminate those jobs as a reaction move by companies... Making entitled lefites feel good is all that matters [emoji]129303[/emoji]

National debt? Pssshh..who cares ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

-Lets get the record straight no Obama and the tax cuts. LINK

He wants to end them for the wealthy.

-Drones? Nice red herring

-You forget that he couldn't get the tax refrom he wanted, and he still had to fund Bush's wars. Bush's legacy of debt stayed with Obama

-Obama doesn't get every budget he ever asked for, there is always a compromise. Must we remember the Tea Party's stubbornness shutting down the government

-You don't understand social democracy, or demand side economics. So scream "free ****" all you want from your deluxe government subsidized apartment in da sky

 

[RustyShackleford]

All said from da rent controlled palace on high. Da government is his daddy & he don't eem know it

Take it away, go ahead..matter fact render it completely gone and lets bet who falls first, NYC or San Francisco.

Meanwhile my "low information" self been invested on DR, so when they place turns to COMPLETE ****? I got mine already. Lets go thou, burn all this **** down [emoji]128133[/emoji]

Why don't you just move out, and pay back all the back rent you didn't pay.

You can donate the money to NYC charities. Pay back the city, for paying your rent all these years.

 

[Master Zik]

Yall need to stop talking about the debt and deficit. We aint never paying it. Simple.

Not to mention if Trump really tried to do what he claimed he fail on a massive scale. His great business deal jargon is even more far fetched and well wishing as Bernie's free college for everybody "plan".

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Now he's got da investments in DR Fam you can barely articulate a complete sentence we all know you living off the government like the true leech that you are. Your selfish butt will put your wants over your Mothers own bladder I expect nothing less than full daddy mode from the government to you.

 

[ninjahood]

[Video]

Gee i wonder whats da & logic rationale of keeping da bush tax cuts for everyone...sounds like that dumb reagonmics that someone said didn't work...oh wait. [emoji]129300[/emoji][/Video]

 

[RustyShackleford]

It was a compromise, it even says it in the video. The posted a fact checking link that said the same thing

Do you even read/watch the stuff you post?

 

[ninjahood]

Yall need to stop talking about the debt and deficit. We aint never paying it. Simple.

And with Social Security going Kaput within 15 years, and more doctors REFUSING to take Medicaid..who care about any of that right?

Bernie for that free **** 2016

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yall need to stop talking about the debt and deficit. We aint never paying it. Simple.

Not to mention if Trump really tried to do what he claimed he fail on a massive scale. His great business deal jargon is even more far fetched and well wishing as Bernie's free college for everybody "plan".

The deficit can be closed with better fiscal policy. The national debt that is far fetched but I won't rule it out the question yet.

-I have problem with Bernie's free college for all plan, but he is dead right about America needing to figure out how to affordably provide their citizens with some form of high education. So I disagree with some of the specific right now, but I agree with his goal.

Ultimately, the goal should be for one day that colleges be tuition free for students. America should work towards that reality

 

[ninjahood]

It was a compromise, it even says it in the video. The posted a fact checking link that said the same thing

Do you even read/watch the stuff you post?

Da real question is do you understand doing what he did VALIDATES Reaganomics right?

Why else would sa dame logic to rich folk & companies not apply to poor folk...who cares about those 2 landslide elections right? [emoji]128133[/emoji]

Too bad Obama forgot u gotta cut spending AND cut taxes to lower da debt..not that it matters anymore.

On to da free **** #feeldabern

 

[RustyShackleford]

2016+15=2031

So more nonsense:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/11/stop-with-the-zombie-lies-no-social-security-is-not-going-broke/

And of course, and interesting part:

Trump has broken with Republican orthodoxy in a few areas where Republican orthodoxy is deeply unpopular, and this is one of them. He probably has the political calculation right: it will be hard for Clinton or Sanders to go after him on Social Security when he’s pledging to protect it without any changes. They’re not going to move to his right on the issue, and while they’ve staked out a position somewhat to his left, he’ll be offering much the same result, without having to pay for it. A tax increase, he’ll say, won’t be necessary because when I’m president gold will practically fall from the sky.

More hypocrisy if you care about Social Security "bankrupting" the country, but suppport Trump

 

[Master Zik]

Yall need to stop talking about the debt and deficit. We aint never paying it. Simple.

And with Social Security going Kaput within 15 years, and more doctors REFUSING to take Medicaid..who care about any of that right?

Just get that universal healthcare popping.

Not sure which sarcastic angle you taken given how socialist social security is anyway. As a "centrist" you want it to stick around? I know all ya conservative buddies would see the end of that as a victory.

Bernie for that free **** 2016

Did you really fail to read the rest of my post?

 

[RustyShackleford]

It was a compromise, it even says it in the video. The posted a fact checking link that said the same thing

Do you even read/watch the stuff you post?

Da real question is do you understand doing what he did VALIDATES Reaganomics right?

Why else would sa dame logic to rich folk & companies not apply to poor folk...who cares about those 2 landslide elections right? [emoji]128133[/emoji]

Too bad Obama forgot u gotta cut spending AND cut taxes to lower da debt..not that it matters anymore.

On to da free **** #feeldabern

Obama wanted to cut taxes on middle class workers to stimulate growth, supply side economics is about cutting taxes on firms and the wealthy to stimulate growth.

Not the same

-And by just pure common sense raising taxes, and cut spending lowers deficits. Look at Clinton

Your boy Reagan ran MASSIVE deficits. And cut the inflation excuse, he was spending after it was tamed, and he was rocking wit monetarist

 

[Master Zik]

Yall need to stop talking about the debt and deficit. We aint never paying it. Simple.

Not to mention if Trump really tried to do what he claimed he fail on a massive scale. His great business deal jargon is even more far fetched and well wishing as Bernie's free college for everybody "plan".

The deficit can be closed with better fiscal policy. The national debt that is far fetched but I won't rule it out the question yet.

-I have problem with Bernie's free college for all plan, but he is dead right about America needing to figure out how to affordably provide their citizens with some form of high education. So I disagree with some of the specific right now, but I agree with his goal.

Ultimately, the goal should be for one day that colleges be tuition free for students. America should work towards that reality

The goal is all well and good. I just always had problems with the details in achieving it and getting it done in 1 or 2 terms. It would be such an ugly look if after 8 years Bernie barely got that **** off the ground and it needs another term to take effect.

Then again I feel like with all presidents, the first week in somebody tells them firmly all that **** you said you was gonna get done won't happen and here's why but here's some **** you can do.

Pretty sure I heard this past weekend that by the next president's term the debt gonna be 26 trillion and it's like 18 trilli now So when I hear that AND the deficit will be taken care of I scoff and laugh. Only way that happening is if you just get other countries to forgive it and act like it aint ever happen I just and when they show the national debt ticker in Manhattan cuz I know that **** aint getting paid. It's like trying to scare somebody with 24hrs to live (who has no family) in to paying their hospital bills.

Better yet it's like all those young ppl with huge student loans fleeing to Europe to avoid debt collectors We aint paying. Better hope for another economical boom like the internet and computers to pop off in America.

 

[ninjahood]

2016+15=2031

So more nonsense:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/11/stop-with-the-zombie-lies-no-social-security-is-not-going-broke/

And of course, and interesting part:

Trump has broken with Republican orthodoxy in a few areas where Republican orthodoxy is deeply unpopular, and this is one of them. He probably has the political calculation right: it will be hard for Clinton or Sanders to go after him on Social Security when he’s pledging to protect it without any changes. They’re not going to move to his right on the issue, and while they’ve staked out a position somewhat to his left, he’ll be offering much the same result, without having to pay for it. A tax increase, he’ll say, won’t be necessary because when I’m president gold will practically fall from the sky.

More hypocrisy if you care about Social Security "bankrupting" the country, but suppport Trump

-Forgots da million times ive said Trump advocates
For lowering corporate taxes for repatriation of Billions of overseas money.

-remembers 1 time i reminded everyone we're going broke and highlighted da eventual bankruptcy of social security if debt isnt resolved [emoji]129303[/emoji][emoji]129303[/emoji]

Who cares thou..Hillary wants to bankrupt da Coal States and put everyone on da government dole..da same government that owes 20 trillion

[Video]

And while we're all it lets kill fracking, and kill millions of more jobs with bone crunching regulations.

Hola Bernie.[/Video]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Social Security is not going bankrupt with 15 years though. You are wrong about that

I'm not against fracking like Bernie

And even though I do agree our trade deals should be renegotiated, that won't mean high quality manufacturing jobs will come flooding back. Even if jobs did come flooding back, without unions, they won't be of the same standard

 

[the red model]

The GOP uses white identity politics, and employ the Southern strategy.

WOW.

 

[the red model]

My biggest criticism of Obama was his compromising. I get that he had to do it get laws passed but I think he should have been more transparent with his concessions.

 

[Nike Jordan]