***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[rico x hood]

So now your evidence is conjecture?

Add to that, we have to assume the people at Harvard are lying for your theory to work.

Oh, ok

If you had a company and had to fulfill a diversity requirement, would you go out and say "alright, we hired some _____ people. Come on, you're talking in circles now. Another reason why Spinning Rusty is so fitting. And you still have not spoke on why no one will just say who the Native American woman was. It would be the easiest way to end this controversy.

 

[RustyShackleford]

So now your evidence is conjecture?

Add to that, we have to assume the people at Harvard are lying for your theory to work.

Oh, ok

If you had a company and had to fulfill a diversity requirement, would you go out and say "alright, we hired some _____ people. Come on, you're talking in circles now. Another reason why Spinning Rusty is so fitting. And you still have not spoke on why no one will just say why the Native American woman was. It would be the easiest way to end this controversy?

Let me answer conjecture and mental gymnastics with some of my own:

A dude that is a Republican, that worked under Reagan, during an election year, where Warren is up against a weak Republican, repeatedly goes to bat for Warren dismissing the claims, after he is not even in the position he is in anymore.

Yet reality goes against your theory:

The Herald has twice quoted Charles Fried, the head of the Harvard appointing committee that recommended Warren for her position in 1995, saying that the Democratic candidate’s heritage didn’t come up during the course of her hiring. “It simply played no role in the appointments process,” he said. “It was not mentioned and I didn’t mention it to the faculty.”

The Herald later quoted Fried, a former U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan, saying, “I can state categorically that the subject of her Native American ancestry never once was mentioned.”

Harvard Law School at the time was embroiled in a fierce debate over lack of faculty diversity. African American law professor Derrick Bell took a two-year leave of absence to protest the program’s hiring policies, students held frequent demonstrations over the same cause and the Massachusetts Commission Against Discrimination had filed a probable cause finding against the school for denying tenure to Clare Dalton, a liberal instructor.

But several news accounts during that period identified Fried as a conservative faculty member who downplayed the need for change. The Globe described him in April 1992 as an “outspoken defender of the beleaguered faculty appointments committee.”

Nonetheless, Fried showed signs of acquiescing around the time that he joined the faculty appointments committee. The Harvard Law Record asked him in a 1992 Q&A, “How aggressively is the appointments committee pursuing women and minority faculty members?” Fried replied, “Very.”

When asked by the Record whether he believed in affirmative action, Fried replied, “Yes.”

Dude's word pretty much throw your theory out the window. He openly said they are searching for minorities and women, but Warren's claims of being a minority played no part.

But he must be untruthful

-------------And what controversy? Blco made a BS claim and I showed there is no evidence

So Broke Boy Rico, what controversy is there? I'm lost.

Seems you hitch your wagon to the wrong star because you wanted to shade me. Now you're scrambling to save face. Did Harvard report Warren was a Native AMerican, yes, did it have anything to do with her getting the job, no. And I say no because there is literally no evidence that points to that, other than your mental gymnastics

As a white woman, she would still be regarded as a minority, and Harvard was actively seeking qualified women professors too. So you entire reach right now is Harvard doubled dipped on reporting Warren based on her seemingly BS claim?

Is that what you so desperately want me to admit?

 

[rico x hood]

If they would have asked him if a candidates race played a part in any hiring he would have said the same thing. Because then that person would automatically have the stigma of being there only because they were _______. This isn't mental gymnastics it's sociology.

Oh please don't gas yourself. I wouldn't be up debating at 2am to try and make you look bad, you do that perfectly fine on your own.

 

[whywesteppin]

Her being a woman already qualifies her as a minority

 

[Master Zik]

Politicians switch sides from time to time or ditch parties after decades. I imagine will after this election is over. Some even try to join new parties.

Shout to bloc


I've joined the conservative side.

Srs? Welcome aboard.

Just keep in mind Donald, who bolo loves to support, is in no way shape or form a conservative by any means.

 

[Coromanti]

Where do you guys fall on the Freedom x Economics axis?

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test

It's weird to see this because I know from a purely philosophical/theortical perspective this is accurate and yet it feels wrong because the overton window is so far left that I feel more right wing. It's a good reminder that things have gone off the rails when actual liberals are considered centrist or even right wing.

 

[ninjahood]

Where do you guys fall on the Freedom x Economics axis?

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test




It's weird to see this because I know from a purely philosophical/theortical perspective this is accurate and yet it feels wrong because the overton window is so far left that I feel more right wing. It's a good reminder that things have gone off the rails when actual liberals are considered centrist or even right wing.

this.

 

[deleted]

Economic -4.88
Social -6.62

 

[RustyShackleford]

Where do you guys fall on the Freedom x Economics axis?

https://www.politicalcompass.org/test




It's weird to see this because I know from a purely philosophical/theortical perspective this is accurate and yet it feels wrong because the overton window is so far left that I feel more right wing. It's a good reminder that things have gone off the rails when actual liberals are considered centrist or even right wing.

-This is strictly not a liberal phenomena, it is happening on the right too, and it is not the first time. Both parties platform's are transforming. With the democrats moving towards becoming and actual left wing party, the GOP still marching right.

Hell this was even major issue in the libertarian party this year.

-This survey, from reading about it else where over puts a lot more weight on foreign policy, and social issues than it does economic issues. The economic questions are really superficial.

Like the unemployment vs. inflation question is most like a flag for right vs. left wing. But a lot of folk just know inflation is something the Right worries about, and employment is something the left does. They probably never heard of a Philips curve, know what causes inflation, or the concept of full employment.

Especially for economics. From my experience, I find that people are philosophically much more Classical (right-wing), but in practice when you dig deeper the actually favor more Keynesian (left-wing) policies. Once you get people thinking of the economy as a system, and what would happen in practice vs. "in theory" their opinion starts to change.

But anyway

-4.25 economic

-6.87 social

 

[slighted]

 

[RustyShackleford]

Almost there, I'm determined to flip to progressive pa, and purge those libertarian tendencies out your soul before it is too late.

Best believe if I get you in secret Santa this year, you're getting a subscription of to the Jacobin Mag.

 

[ninjahood]

Economic Left/Right: 0.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18

basically a old school common sense murcian'

 

[slighted]

 Almost there, I'm determined to flip to progressive pa, and purge those libertarian tendencies out your soul before it is too late.

Best believe if I get you in secret Santa this year, you're getting a subscription of to the Jacobin Mag.

@ninjahood

@blco02

I'm moving gradually to the left from a semi-libertarian (read: fiscally conservative, socially liberal) vantage point.

How do I return back to the promised land? I despise almost all politicians.

 

[ninjahood]

America First, mind your own business, dont be mad at da next cat clockin figures, and have faith that as long as people strive for what they want in life, they'll get it.

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

Almost there, I'm determined to flip to progressive pa, and purge those libertarian tendencies out your soul before it is too late.


Best believe if I get you in secret Santa this year, you're getting a subscription of to the Jacobin Mag.

@ninjahood

@blco02


I'm moving gradually to the left from a semi-libertarian (read: fiscally conservative, socially liberal) vantage point.

How do I return back to the promised land? I despise almost all politicians.

Start fapping to Ronald Reagan speeches, so you have can have a selective memory, and weird fetishes about his economic legacy.

That might do the trick if you wanna move more toward the GOP economically

 

[ninjahood]

emphasis on stop hating on da next man for pushing a benz...make sure u use that as motivation to push ur own high horsepower whip.

 

[green rhino123]

y u need a high horsepower whip when u live in da city ninja

 

[ninjahood]

y u need a high horsepower whip when u live in da city ninja

why should my crimp my aspirations based on my immediate circumstances?

remember i got a jacob jesus piece...couldve easily gotten da hemi.

 

[essential1]

-5.75 Economic
-4.92 Social

 

[whywesteppin]

wait you don't actually have da hemi?

this is worse than finding out cam still hasn't finished work on his Saturn.

 

[whywesteppin]

Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85

i shudder to think how some answer some of those questions.

 

[Master Zik]

Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85

i shudder to think how some answer some of those questions.

I know who voted women's primary role is to be a housewife

 

[harlemtothebronx]

 

[ninjahood]

apparently im da normal one, and all of ya a bunch of Lefties

so you know what that means? outside NT, in and real world? ya da odd men out.

oh wit da this terrorist attack in Orlando
.Trump got this locked up in da bag.

 

[SneakerProSr.]

apparently im da normal one, and all of ya a bunch of Lefties

so you know what that means? outside NT, in and real world? ya da odd men out.

oh wit da this terrorist attack in Orlando
.Trump got this locked up in da bag.

I think its going the opposite way.

Legal gun owner mows own gay people.