***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[frink85]

Obama was addressing a mass tragedy as the president and bringing up politicizing to force gun control discussion forward

Trump is using a tragedy as a presidential candidate to back up his previous statements and further his campaign, and in a callous manner

 

[whywesteppin]

if the orangutan at least had the decency to express sadness before gloating, we may be a little less appalled.

**** trump.

 

[wavycrocket]

Obama was addressing a mass tragedy as the president and bringing up politicizing to force gun control discussion forward

Trump is using a tragedy as a presidential candidate to back up his previous statements and further his agenda, and in a callous manner

Bingo.

No idea how this is missed. These Trump lunatics will defend and deflect everything this man does.

He was not lying when he said he could shoot somebody in the head, and his supporters would still **** with him.

 

[atlsfinest]

This one checks a lot of the usual Trump boxes:

1. Absence of expression of any condolences for the tragedy

2. Immediate segway into "I told you so" message

3. Validating the previous criticism against him that he generalized all blacks into one monolithic stereotype, instead of finding a way to refute it (bonus Easter egg of misspelling Dwyane Wade's name)

4. Capped off by a non-sequitur conclusion

The level on narcissism that this dude displaces is barely human.

 

[whywesteppin]

This one checks a lot of the usual Trump boxes:

1. Absence of expression of any condolences for the tragedy

2. Immediate segway into "I told you so" message

3. Validating the previous criticism against him that he generalized all blacks into one monolithic stereotype, instead of finding a way to refute it (bonus Easter egg of misspelling Dwyane Wade's name)

4. Capped off by a non-sequitur conclusion

The level on narcissism that this dude displaces is barely human.

well said.

he's the archetypal evil antagonist from 90s movies who doesn't have a single redeemable quality. movies went away from such bad guys because they weren't realistic. but i guess they were wrong.

i just can't wait for the final scene where he is completely humiliated, striped penniless and paraded around for the common man to spit on him.

 

[ninjahood]

Obama was addressing a mass tragedy as the president and bringing up politicizing to force gun control discussion forward

Trump is using a tragedy as a presidential candidate to back up his previous statements and further his campaign, and in a callous manner

other than injecting your opinion at da end, you're correct. Its a means to and ends...

now you can disagree with it or agree with da goal, but da methods and means of which they're trying to achieve their ends are identical.

like i said, you can't give one side a pass on something they both do because you subjectively think one side cares more than da other...its that simple.

 

[illmatic34]

other than injecting your opinion at da end, you're correct. Its a means to and ends...

now you can disagree with it or agree with da goal, but da methods and means of which they're trying to achieve their ends are identical.

like i said, you can't give one side a pass on something they both do because you subjectively think one side cares more than da other...its that simple.

Your defense here is simply "Well other people do it, so it doesn't matter"

It's amazing the lengths you would go to defend this man

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

other than injecting your opinion at da end, you're correct. Its a means to and ends...

now you can disagree with it or agree with da goal, but da methods and means of which they're trying to achieve their ends are identical.

like i said, you can't give one side a pass on something they both do because you subjectively think one side cares more than da other...its that simple.

Is there anything trump can say or do that you won't find an excuse for? Honest question

 

[RustyShackleford]

Let's take a step back and look at this situation, and break down Trump and Ninja's many levels of ridiculousness:
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First, NInja wants to run this "if y'all gonna condemn Trump, then you gotta condemn Obama" schtick. But this was the same dude that YESTERDAY refused to condemn Trump for calling Hillary a bigot and playing "da identity politics". Even after people asked multiple times, he have an excuse why it was ok for Trump to do it. But you can catch him in multiple threads over the past months complaining about how systemtic racism is made up (which it isn't) and da leftist using an imigenry talking to trick minorites (which they aren't_.

But when Trump does it, it is all good.

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Second Ninja conveniently post a 1:20 clip to push his BS narrative. Let's look at all of Obeezy's statement:



Sure look like he first sends his condolences and thought to those affected, and after doing that, then does he discuss the political aspect of it. In a never nuance way.

Lil Dong Drumpf ran to Twitter to have a "I told you so moment", couldn't even bother to give his condolences or even spell Wade's name right.

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At least we know Obama cares about folk, at least he his heart is in the right place. Tragedy after tragedy this man begs the Congress to put in gun control laws, many that most of the public including gun owners support; but time and time again he his rebuked by the NRA's subsidiary, the GOP.

He wants to fix a systemic issue, which will hopefully lead to better outcomes for the American people. Obama is talking policy, he has proposed policy, he is willing to compromise to get something done with those policy. He is trying to solve a problem

Trump is ******* trying to get votes, that's it. He speaks about "the blacks" like they are a monolith to pedal this false narrative about them. He ignores, hell I doubt he understand or cares, about the systemic issues facing black Americans because when people ask for his plans to help black people he has once again, ******* NOTHING.

He doesn't say how he is doing to help, he just builds this BS straw man about how "democratic/Hillary Clinton" policies that failed them, but for the like of him he can't say what he will do to help.

But hey, what do we have to lose right.

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Lastly, Ninja I wasn't not disrespectful to you personally, I was disrespectful to your the foolishness in your post. Me disrespecting you is wrong, I apologize if I have (srs), but I will not apologize to disrespecting the stupid stuff you post about nearly every matter of importance: politics, black people, the LBGT community, women, vegans. Nor will I apologize for mocking your rhetorical tactics. Whether it be the deflection, moving of the goal post, the hypocrisy, or logical fallacies.

If you want me to stop in that area, then educate yourself about those topics and learn to form a coherent, cogent argument.

-But I must say is is rather halrious your complain about disrespect. Where was his Ninja when he was laughing along when Blco was mocking me for being a foreign born citizen, where was this Ninja when you where calling me a demagogue just because I shut down one of your arguments, where was this Ninja YESTERDAY when you where calling my post sjw steez. Huh?

And where is this Ninja when you disrespect dudes like Columbia, mocking his nationality (Da Belgium) and sickness (calling him frail).

It seems to me you love to play this tough guy intellectual( ) shtick. You post all this stuff about sjw, PC culture, and folk not being to handle you talking the "truth" rolleyes). You find humor in people (especially liberals) being offended, and you call Trump's bigotry entertainment.

But the second someone like me comes along that you can't flex on, you wanna cray and talk about disrespect.

Well I'm sorry if you opinions are not called out or mocked in your hood, aka your own personal safe space from the world, to prepare you for folk disparaging the foolishness you post online.

I guess maybe after the 2020 census, someone on NT should make a Platano Fragility thread. But before that, look in the mirror before you wanna call anyone else out for "**** boy ****"

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But I guess it is Ninja's turn to quote one line of this post, argue against it, so he can feel he is in control again. Go ahead papi

 

[Master Zik]

Somebody must've stopped Wade from cursing Donald out.

But hopefully he ain't hear about or focused on that clown.

The lack of tact Donald displays is doing him no favors. In far from surprised. I expect him to do that after every shooting and terrorist attack.

 

[deleted]

equating what da left does to da right ≠ deflecting..nice try though.

i literally gave u da exact reaction from da opposite end of da political spectrum,

pointing that out isn't deflecting, complaining everytime i do it is deflecting though

It is a deflection and you use it CONSTANTLY

Tu quoque

 

[whywesteppin]

this is gold:



paid for by Republicans

so it's not left vs right. it's American vs white nationalist.

**** trump

 

[ninjahood]

other than injecting your opinion at da end, you're correct. Its a means to and ends...

now you can disagree with it or agree with da goal, but da methods and means of which they're trying to achieve their ends are identical.

like i said, you can't give one side a pass on something they both do because you subjectively think one side cares more than da other...its that simple.

Your defense here is simply "Well other people do it, so it doesn't matter"

and because other people do it it shouldn't matter. cuz if u gonna condemn one side, do da other equally or shut up about both

its that simple.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Then condemn Trump for calling Clinton a bigot

 

[whywesteppin]

we need to dispense with this idea that being fair and balanced means equally berating Democrats and Republicans.

if one side is constantly saying stupid things, then that side will get disproportionately ridiculed, even by the most objective observer.

so like i said, stop it. it's ******* annoying.

 

[ninjahood]

It is a deflection and you use it CONSTANTLY

isa not deflection when you can't defend da same position your condemning..no sir that pointing da figuratively gun right back at da forehead. so it forces u to either be fair on both sides or kill you with da same bullet u shooting others w/.

rusty taking paragraphs just to reiterate that he gives a pass on Obama politicizing a tragedy cuz he think he cares more (meanwhile he's advocating for Congress votes just da same).

whats good for da goose...

 

[illmatic34]

and because other people do it it shouldn't matter. cuz if u gonna condemn one side, do da other equally or shut up about both

its that simple.

Damn cuh

You probably think falsely accusing someone of rape is just as bad as raping someone huh?

 

[essential1]

About the polls tightening

VA
Aug 5 - 18 Ipsos Clinton 45% - Trump 39%
Aug 12-25 Ipsos Clinton 48% - Trump 37%

PA
Aug 12-18 Ipsos Clinton 46% - Trump 45%
Aug 19-25 Ipsos Clinton 50% - Trump 43%

OH
Aug 12-18 Ipsos Clinton 45% - Trump 39%
Aug 19-25 Ipsos Clinton 47% - Trump 41%

FL
Aug 12-18 Ipsos Clinton 49%- Trump 41%
Aug 19-25 Ipsos Clinton 49% - Trump 42%

CO
Aug 12-18 Ipsos Clinton 42% - Trump 39%
Aug 19-25 Ipsos Clinton 43% - Trump 40%

Buttttttttttttttttt be happy, Trump has the lead in Michigan & Wisconsin according to Ipsos (He's losing in every other poll there though)...

 

[RustyShackleford]

Obama's comments and Trump's Tweet aren't even on the same level.

 

[RustyShackleford]

About the polls tightening

VA
Aug 5 - 18 Ipsos Clinton 45% - Trump 39%
Aug 12-25 Ipsos Clinton 48% - Trump 37%

PA
Aug 12-18 Ipsos Clinton 46% - Trump 45%
Aug 19-25 Ipsos Clinton 50% - Trump 43%

OH
Aug 12-18 Ipsos Clinton 45% - Trump 39%
Aug 19-25 Ipsos Clinton 47% - Trump 41%

FL
Aug 12-18 Ipsos Clinton 49%- Trump 41%
Aug 19-25 Ipsos Clinton 49% - Trump 42%

CO
Aug 12-18 Ipsos Clinton 42% - Trump 39%
Aug 19-25 Ipsos Clinton 43% - Trump 40%

Buttttttttttttttttt be happy, Trump has the lead in Michigan & Wisconsin according to Ipsos (He's losing in every other poll there though)...

Mannnnn get the hell outta here wit dis leftist propaganda

These polls don't include da secret independents waiting in da cut to voting for Trump

 

[ninjahood]

Then condemn Trump for calling Clinton a bigot

only if i see u Condemn Clinton for linking TRUMP to da KKK, (which he reacted to via da leaked speech) .

 

[ninjahood]

Obama's comments and Trump's Tweet aren't even on the same level.

NCAA & da NBA aren't on da same level either..its still basketball though.

 

[deleted]

The most logically inconsistent poster on NT is demanding consistency from others

Crazy

 

[dacomeup]

Obama's comments and Trump's Tweet aren't even on the same level.

NCAA & da NBA aren't on da same level either..its still basketball though.

You're just trolling for a reaction at this point. I don't even know why people respond.