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Only way a woman would be elected as president is if the country was doing well economically. The DNC handed the RNC the election

People are fed up with the two party system and that's why stein and johnson got alot of votes

Honestly I don't see a woman ever being president, at least not in our lifetime. Hillary had 2 chances and in both she let everyone down. This was the best chance of us having a female president.
 
Seriously, let's just split this country up. It's way too big anyways.
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Its moments like this where this grand experiment that is the United States of America 50 states(countries really) working together under one unified government will work. I believe it can but this moment is not encouraging.
 
As a Bernie donor (The only [political campaign I have ever donated to) has anybody considered that Hillary Clinton was and always been a bad candidate? Has it sunk in a whole boat load of people that voted for a black president in some cases twice could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton and in some cases drove them to Donald Trump? Also has anybody talked about how this might not be about racism at all? The Klan votes in every election for somebody. Maybe you can't declare open season in every form of media know to mock a large minority of Americans and not have them unite and do something about it (perception is reality). I think painting this election as some sort of black/white good vs evil struggle is a mistake. We need to learn the why. The real why. Saying that almost exactly half our fellow citizens are just big racists (and whatever else you can think of) is more likely than not true. My 2 cents.
 
-While we over here debating on whether to vote or not, the sws is not. They vote every time.

WS runs and built this damn system. Of course they vote. They get something outta the deal.

Groups that vote the most, tend to get their needs met. That is universal.

The groups that don't, are the ones looking for a sweeping revolutions, and think voting once is an answer.



Black people been voting for how long and we've got what? Again, she was weak. Blame her, maybe if she ran better people woulda really felt like voting for her. Don't be mad cuz people ain't believe in YOUR leader. But like I keep saying, the system is broken, participating in a broken, racist system does not work, we've seen it. Your vote meant nothing. All these people voted for Hilary sticky outta fear of Trump and it still ain't work. She barely won the popular vote. The WS control this. People voting is not changing that.

Dude, I just said it is not the act of just voting once, but voting all the time. Consistently.

And miss me with this Hillary is my leader ********, I never called her my leader or savior, but she was clearly the better option. Especially when you look at policy. I stated examples of the issues that could get worst, and you flat out ignored them.

I am asking saying that the black vote needs to turn our in large number consistently to see progress. If you voted for Obama twice, and didn't vote in midterms, you didn't do much.

The socio-economic system is racist and broken. But it is less racist and broken than it used to be, to make it even less racist and less broken we need good policy. To get good policy in place you need people that will vote for it at all level of government, especially Congress. You only get that with voting.

And most important, voting doesn't mean you can't help your community in other ways.

- And if voting didn't matter so much, why are white supremacist in the GOP actively trying to suppress the black vote? Because if blacks turned out in force, and voted in unison, we could control every election.

Yelling about white supremacist is one thing, understanding how the systematically oppress you people is another.

And you really think not voting is helping?
 
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Moore was right then and is right once again now.

DNC needs to blow this whole thing up. They elected/gassed a retread like Byron Scott and thought we'd get excited for that. :smh:
Exactly. The media can tell us to vote all they want, but the states pick the president, not us. Even if Hillary got the popular vote, if State X decides to give it to Trump instead, the electoral college allows them to do that.
 
Only way a woman would be elected as president is if the country was doing well economically. The DNC handed the RNC the election

People are fed up with the two party system and that's why stein and johnson got alot of votes

Honestly I don't see a woman ever being president, at least not in our lifetime. Hillary had 2 chances and in both she let everyone down. This was the best chance of us having a female president.

Honestly it wasn't, outside of experience, Michelle Obama would be a better candidate, educated, smart, she isn't "nasty" :lol: and isn't a Clinton. We'll have woman president by.........2036, by then most of the boomers will be dead and gone.
 
As a Bernie donor (The only [political campaign I have ever donated to) has anybody considered that Hillary Clinton was and always been a bad candidate? Has it sunk in a whole boat load of people that voted for a black president in some cases twice could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton and in some cases drove them to Donald Trump? Also has anybody talked about how this might not be about racism at all? The Klan votes in every election for somebody. Maybe you can't declare open season in every form of media know to mock a large minority of Americans and not have them unite and do something about it (perception is reality). I think painting this election as some sort of black/white good vs evil struggle is a mistake. We need to learn the why. The real why. Saying that almost exactly half our fellow citizens are just big racists (and whatever else you can think of) is more likely than not true. My 2 cents.
If I was speaking to someone that claims to be a bernie sanders supporter which I was as well and if Clinton was what drove them to Trump I would tell them they never really believed anything Sanders said or stood for.
 
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I say a long time ago our votes don't actually matter. Hillary DID win the popular vote and look what happened. I say we just need to rid of the electoral college altogether.

It would have if more people actually came out just a percentage point or 2 in almost all these states would have tipped the balance in her favor.
 
If I was speaking to someone that claims to be a bernie sanders supporter which I was as well and if Clinton was what drove them to Trump I would tell them they never really believed anything Sanders said or stood for.

Maybe they didn't but it's what seemed to happen in some cases. I'm in the RCA phase of this. So I'm trying to figure out how this went down. And IMHO there are a lot of just lazy answers to a much more complex issue.
 
As a Bernie donor (The only [political campaign I have ever donated to) has anybody considered that Hillary Clinton was and always been a bad candidate? Has it sunk in a whole boat load of people that voted for a black president in some cases twice could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton and in some cases drove them to Donald Trump? Also has anybody talked about how this might not be about racism at all? The Klan votes in every election for somebody. Maybe you can't declare open season in every form of media know to mock a large minority of Americans and not have them unite and do something about it (perception is reality). I think painting this election as some sort of black/white good vs evil struggle is a mistake. We need to learn the why. The real why. Saying that almost exactly half our fellow citizens are just big racists (and whatever else you can think of) is more likely than not true. My 2 cents.

All this.
 
Only way a woman would be elected as president is if the country was doing well economically. The DNC handed the RNC the election

People are fed up with the two party system and that's why stein and johnson got alot of votes

Honestly I don't see a woman ever being president, at least not in our lifetime. Hillary had 2 chances and in both she let everyone down. This was the best chance of us having a female president.

Naa I still think it's gonna come one day since the States is already behind the rest of the world in that regard but it'll have to be an almost spotless candidate :lol:. The expectations for women in power are that much more stringent/strict than they are for men as unfair as it is tbh.
 
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the election is over deal with it. Now it's time to focus on mid terms. The GOP already controls everything and they can take even more seats in 2018. We have to get black/Latinos to show up to keep dem seats and pick up a few more to set us up for 2020. It's gonna be a long 4 years but we gotta keep it moving
 
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Hillary Clinton is probably the most qualified person the has ever ran for president. It is a uphill battle for a woman to win

She would have to be Michelle Obama likable, with Hillary's resumes, and be as squeaky clean as Barrack Obama.

There aren't many of those unicorns running around
 
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Y'all got me messed up if you think i'ma stay here for the next four years with Donald being the head of office. Got my passport ready and luggage backed. Will be moving to Ghana at the top of the new year. Any NT'ers want to make that trip with me and book a flight. Hit my PM.

Asta La Vista!



Is it really?

I'm planning on going to Kumasi

Yep,the city is beautiful and the culture/food is on point. It's also probably the most developed city in West Africa
 
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