***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[jjs07]

Exit Polls show that she only got 65% of the Latino vote.

Unbelievable, Hillary.

I'm honestly speechless...somewhere in her campaign someone dropped the ball with the minority vote. No reason for this to happen or for there to be this much of a disconnect. I said it before, I think it borders on arrogance by her people...With a man like Trump who fueled his campaign on hate, fear, and ignorance, the Black/Latino voters should have been the target group of people for HRC to reach.

Man...

Makes you realize just how many holes her campaign had and how poorly run it was in retrospect.

 

[pdino]

Yes. He's not going to act the way he did on the campaign trail once he gets in office. He isn't going to build a wall. He isn't going to start dropping nukes. He isn't going to kick out Muslims. None of that stuff is going to happen. And it doesnt matter because thats what politicians do. Obama didn't keep half his promises. Doesn't matter. Same with previous Presidents.

I get not being happy with the result, but all this "i'm scared of the future" nonsense is exactly that. Nonsense. Bush didnt change my life. Obama didnt change my life. and Trump will not change my life.

Bush got us into war and recession.. Maybe it didn't affect you, but that affected a lot of people

 

[rtsmooth]

It comes back to being INSPIRED to VOTE.

Look what happened in 07... housing crisis, stock plunge, high unemployment, Iraq war... people came out to vote cause Obama inspired us all. That same energy Obama had Trump had in 2016.

I learned from volunteering at phone banks, that citizens as a whole aren't overly concern or know much about politics. The answers I received for simple political questions were mind boggling.

[It comes back to being INSPIRED to VOTE]

This is exactly what's wrong with many people in this country. People believe they have to be inspired, in love or a huge fan of a candidate to vote for them. WRONG. The eligible voter population isn't 10 yrs old. You shouldn't have to promise people the world or get them overly enthusiastic get them to do something millions of African Americans and women couldn't do just a century ago.

If you're eligible to vote, you have a RESPONSIBILITY as a citizen to vote. Even if it is just for the lesser of 4 evils.

 

[superblytrife]

Supreme Court Justices have no term limits?

Do you even America, bro? 

Not even trying to be an ***, but how can you be a voting adult and not know the answer to this?  

 

[RustyShackleford]

Supreme Court Justices have no term limits?

No. The Supreme Court will be hardcore right win for the next couple decade at the minimum.

So look forward to civil right being rolled back, and corporate interest being made the law of the land.

 

[MVP]

Bush got us into war and recession.. Maybe it didn't affect you, but that affected a lot of people

I'm saying, but it's not surprising. Some people in their ivory towers literally only worried about self. There's no empathy for anyone else.

 

[rolaholic]

"Here I thought I was just talking ****,I can't run a casino and now these people actually need me to run the country?!?"

"Dear God,what have I done?"

 

[everysingletime]

Supreme Court Justices have no term limits?

Do you even America, bro? 

Not even trying to be an ***, but how can you be a voting adult and not know the answer to this?  

I'm sorry I don't know as much as you, bro

Forgive me.

 

[superblytrife]

Just read that Trump got 55% of the Cuban-American vote in Florida...

Clinton got 42%

Isn't that normal for FL though?  Cubans in South FL are known conservatives. 

 

[Xennial]

For those that might have more knowledge regarding this, why is it so difficult for there to be a multi party system in this country?

 

[jjs07]

Just read that Trump got 55% of the Cuban-American vote in Florida...


Clinton got 42%

Isn't that normal for FL though?  Cubans in South FL are known conservatives. 

Might be, but for someone who has a harsh stance on immigration, when a lot of them defected here, or had relatives who defected here, under hard circumstances, I didn't expect the numbers to look like that in this election.

 

[dathbgboy]

It comes back to being INSPIRED to VOTE.

Look what happened in 07... housing crisis, stock plunge, high unemployment, Iraq war... people came out to vote cause Obama inspired us all. That same energy Obama had Trump had in 2016.

I learned from volunteering at phone banks, that citizens as a whole aren't overly concern or know much about politics. The answers I received for simple political questions were mind boggling.

[It comes back to being INSPIRED to VOTE]

This is exactly what's wrong with many people in this country. People believe they have to be inspired, in love or a huge fan of a candidate to vote for them. WRONG. The eligible voter population isn't 10 yrs old. You shouldn't have to promise people the world or get them overly enthusiastic get them to do something millions of African Americans and women couldn't do just a century ago.

If you're eligible to vote, you have a RESPONSIBILITY as a citizen to vote. Even if it is just for the lesser of 4 evils.

I feel you but when you consistently vote and you only see one group actually benefiting, you get tired of not reaping any of the rewards of your labors/patronage/etc. Black people helped put Obama in office as well as other groups and the only groups that benefited most were Latinos and the LGBTQ groups. When you get a president that looks like you and still come out empty handed, that's demoralizing to many.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Damb, I just remembered of one of Obama's famous executive orders:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_Arrivals

Bruh |I These people are ******

 

[superblytrife]

 

 

Supreme Court Justices have no term limits?

Do you even America, bro? 

Not even trying to be an ***, but how can you be a voting adult and not know the answer to this?  

I'm sorry I don't know as much as you, bro

Forgive me.

No need for apologies.  I know you voted for HRC, but it's still vital to understand how things work in our country b/c it DOES affect you and yours.

At least now you know and can pass that knowledge on to those who may not.   

 

[the red model]

https://www.thenation.com/article/t...hts-was-the-most-under-covered-story-of-2016/

Voting Rights Act being gutted could have had  A LOT to do with the outcome.

 We’ll likely never know how many people were kept from the polls by restrictions like voter-ID laws, cuts to early voting, and barriers to voter registration. But at the very least this should have been a question that many more people were looking into. For example, 27,000 votes currently separate Trump and Clinton in Wisconsin, where 300,000 registered voters, according to a federal court, lacked strict forms of voter ID. Voter turnout in Wisconsin was at its lowest levels in 20 years  and decreased 13 percent in Milwaukee, where 70 percent of the state’s African-American population lives, according to Daniel Nichanian of the University of Chicago

 

[sfc415]

Damb, I just remembered of one of Obama's famous executive orders:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_Arrivals

Bruh |I These people are ******

One of my Mexican friends went through this. To think that a student at UC Berkeley Law School wouldn't have made it under Trump because Mexicans are apparently rapists and murders is :x

 

[RustyShackleford]

It comes back to being INSPIRED to VOTE.

Look what happened in 07... housing crisis, stock plunge, high unemployment, Iraq war... people came out to vote cause Obama inspired us all. That same energy Obama had Trump had in 2016.

I learned from volunteering at phone banks, that citizens as a whole aren't overly concern or know much about politics. The answers I received for simple political questions were mind boggling.

[It comes back to being INSPIRED to VOTE]

This is exactly what's wrong with many people in this country. People believe they have to be inspired, in love or a huge fan of a candidate to vote for them. WRONG. The eligible voter population isn't 10 yrs old. You shouldn't have to promise people the world or get them overly enthusiastic get them to do something millions of African Americans and women couldn't do just a century ago.

If you're eligible to vote, you have a RESPONSIBILITY as a citizen to vote. Even if it is just for the lesser of 4 evils.

I feel you but when you consistently vote and you only see one group actually benefiting, you get tired of not reaping any of the rewards of your labors/patronage/etc. Black people helped put Obama in office as well as other groups and the only groups that benefited most were Latinos and the LGBTQ groups. When you get a president that looks like you and still come out empty handed, that's demoralizing to many.

Yeah but it also comes down to understanding civics. Obama probably did as much as he could within his power.

Congress is the real prize, and that keeps getting ignored.

So what if you don't like Clinton, at least vote down ticket.

 

[everysingletime]

 

 

Supreme Court Justices have no term limits?

Do you even America, bro? 


Not even trying to be an ***, but how can you be a voting adult and not know the answer to this?  

I'm sorry I don't know as much as you, bro


Forgive me.

No need for apologies.  I know you voted for HRC, but it's still vital to understand how things work in our country b/c it DOES affect you and yours.

At least now you know and can pass that knowledge on to those who may not.   

I was being sarcastic breh i'm not going to apologize for having gaps in my knowledge. Everyone has gaps. I guarantee there are millions that don't know this fact. But yea, I agree. Glad I know now.

 

[ill steelo]

Exit Polls show that she only got 65% of the Latino vote.

Unbelievable, Hillary.

I'm honestly speechless...somewhere in her campaign someone dropped the ball with the minority vote. No reason for this to happen or for there to be this much of a disconnect. I said it before, I think it borders on arrogance by her people...With a man like Trump who fueled his campaign on hate, fear, and ignorance, the Black/Latino voters should have been the target group of people for HRC to reach.

Man...

Makes you realize just how many holes her campaign had and how poorly run it was in retrospect.

It's like she took them for granted

 

[PRIME]

 

concluded? Explain further. 

I think he meant included.

One criticism of (white) feminism is that it leaves out women of color, racial and gender issues.

Aka the "stop hurting our feelings" party

 

[jordman23]

This is all just so unbelievable to me.


Theres nothing we can do now, just sit back and hope he doesn't deliver on the hateful messages he's been saying. It's a major punch in the GUT, knowing we can't do anything for at least 4 years!


It will be really interesting to see if he delivers his word on


- Indicting Hillary

- Building the wall

- Banning muslims

- Repealing Affordable Care Act ( Most likely by the House pressure anyway)

- Mass Deportation

- among other stuff he promised

 

[rolaholic]

Exit Polls show that she only got 65% of the Latino vote.

Unbelievable, Hillary.

I'm honestly speechless...somewhere in her campaign someone dropped the ball with the minority vote. No reason for this to happen or for there to be this much of a disconnect. I said it before, I think it borders on arrogance by her people...With a man like Trump who fueled his campaign on hate, fear, and ignorance, the Black/Latino voters should have been the target group of people for HRC to reach.

Man...

Makes you realize just how many holes her campaign had and how poorly run it was in retrospect.

It's like she took them for granted

Her supposed and much hyped "firewall" of support with latinos against Trump's overwhelming white vote was nowhere to be found

 

[RustyShackleford]

https://www.thenation.com/article/t...hts-was-the-most-under-covered-story-of-2016/

Voting Rights Act being gutted could have had  A LOT to do with the outcome.

 
We’ll likely never know how many people were kept from the polls by restrictions like voter-ID laws, cuts to early voting, and barriers to voter registration. But at the very least this should have been a question that many more people were looking into. For example, 27,000 votes currently separate Trump and Clinton in Wisconsin
, where 300,000 registered voters
, according to a federal court, lacked strict forms of voter ID. Voter turnout in Wisconsin was at its lowest levels in 20 years
 and decreased 13 percent in Milwaukee, where 70 percent of the state’s African-American population lives, according to Daniel Nichanian of the University of Chicago

I believe so as well. When someone is really apathetic about voting, making it a hassle will easily disenfranchise them.

I could convince someone to take 30 mins out there weekend to go vote. I doubt I could make them do that if it was going to take a entire afternoon to get an ID, and another to cast the vote.

 

[Peep Game]

As a Bernie donor (The only [political campaign I have ever donated to) has anybody considered that Hillary Clinton was and always been a bad candidate? Has it sunk in a whole boat load of people that voted for a black president in some cases twice could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton and in some cases drove them to Donald Trump? Also has anybody talked about how this might not be about racism at all? The Klan votes in every election for somebody. Maybe you can't declare open season in every form of media know to mock a large minority of Americans and not have them unite and do something about it (perception is reality). I think painting this election as some sort of black/white good vs evil struggle is a mistake. We need to learn the why. The real why. Saying that almost exactly half our fellow citizens are just big racists (and whatever else you can think of) is more likely than not true. My 2 cents.

The fact that Hillary "drove" people to Trump says more about the people voting for Trump than Hillary herself.

And saying the part in bold really just eliminates any idea for a serious discussion.

 

[commander0zero]

[It comes back to being INSPIRED to VOTE]

This is exactly what's wrong with many people in this country. People believe they have to be inspired, in love or a huge fan of a candidate to vote for them. WRONG. The eligible voter population isn't 10 yrs old. You shouldn't have to promise people the world or get them overly enthusiastic get them to do something millions of African Americans and women couldn't do just a century ago.

If you're eligible to vote, you have a RESPONSIBILITY as a citizen to vote. Even if it is just for the lesser of 4 evils.

I get what you're saying but you're fighting thousands of years of human nature. Those Romans weren't crossing the Rubicon if they didn't believe. The pre-game speech before the big game would not exist if people didn't actually need the push. Heck man people wouldn't need music at the gym that pushes them. Fact is all the truly good historical leaders were inspiring and they pushed people beyond caring about more than just their own circumstance.