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If it were a panel of women doing it, would that make it ok then? Just wondering

As long as they are the decision makers fine, they're are pro-life women and pro-choice women. It's their bodies though and you have a majority male dominated power structure trying to legislate that.
 
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Trump ain't even in office yet n it's already looking like a mess :lol: :smh: ....his campaign ain't even know they had to fill out the rest of the White House staff, like obama was just gon slide em some staff [emoji]128514[/emoji] ...On top of that it's already questions about some of his position choices passing background n security clearances ...now they having meetings to figure out what the VP can and cant do since Donald gon need all the help he can get , and they got outside advisors still helping em trying figure out all the responsibilities of a the president in general :lol: ...they don't even have any written plans or policy ! What a ****** joke :x :smh:
 
If it were a panel of women doing it, would that make it ok then? Just wondering

As long as they are the decision makers fine, they're are pro-life women and pro-choice women. It's their bodies though and you have a majority male dominated power structure trying to legislate that.

But then why are you ok with some women telling other women what to do with their body? That makes 0 sense. I'm sure you're a dude, and I'm a dude, it it ok for me to tell u what to do w/ your body since we're both males?
 
But then why are you ok with some women telling other women what to do with their body? That makes 0 sense. I'm sure you're a dude, and I'm a dude, it it ok for me to tell u what to do w/ your body since we're both males?

I thought it was implied that it was individual decisions with the pro-choice and pro-life bit but I guess I should have made it more explicit. I'm not ok with anyone telling anyone what they can do with their own body, but you brought up a scenario that isn't the reality of the situation anyway.
 
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From what I know, it seems like Trump is going to leave abortion policies to the states. So if you need an abortion you just have to travel. Inconvenient, but it's a compromise. The topic of abortion is a hard one for me. I sympathize with both sides.

I feel if you must do it it's got to be early. I hate late term abortion when they already got hands and feet and other body parts.

I understand the woman's right but baby's develop a heartbeat as early as 5weeks so to me, anything after that is no bueno
8 weeks according to ninja
 
Da irony

http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2016/11/pence-email-privacy-indiana-231332
 
Vice President-elect Mike Pence is seeking to keep secret the contents of an email relating to Indiana’s participation, at his behest, in a lawsuit to block President Barack Obama’s executive actions on immigration.

Pence’s administration brought in an outside law firm to join the litigation, which was spearheaded by Texas Gov. Greg Abbot. The move prompted one Indianapolis lawyer to request documents related to the decision to bring in outside counsel.

Per the article: “Pence produced the documents in the request ‘but those documents included substantial redaction,’ according to court documents. The 57-page response also included an email that Daniel Hodge, Abbott's chief of staff, sent to 30 recipients in various states asking them to join the lawsuit against Obama. The message included an attached white paper, but the governor failed to produce the document, according to court records. After a yearlong [legal process], the Superior Court held that the issue was not a matter for the courts to decide, citing a Indiana Supreme Court case decided just days before.”

Pence’s efforts, so far upheld by state courts, were highlighted in an Indianapolis Star article  Monday.

The effort to shield an email from public scrutiny follows an election in which Hillary Clinton’s campaign was hounded by her use of a private email server while serving at the State Department — a move that was criticized as both a security risk and a blow against transparency.

The decision was appealed, and the Indiana Court of Appeals is set to hear oral arguments in Indianapolis on Nov. 21.

Pence’s office declined to comment.
 
But then why are you ok with some women telling other women what to do with their body? That makes 0 sense. I'm sure you're a dude, and I'm a dude, it it ok for me to tell u what to do w/ your body since we're both males?

I thought it was implied that it was individual decisions with the pro-choice and pro-life bit but I guess I should have made it more explicit. I'm not ok with anyone telling anyone what they can do with their own body, but you brought up a scenario that isn't the reality of the situation anyway.


Ok, got it, I'm just going off of how u worded it and your intended stance isn't the stance of many who are pro-choice, it's always left to assume that as long as men are telling women what to do w/ their bodies then it's ok.
 
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What someone does to their own body is their own business, and that should be whether or not you want to carry a child to term, or getting a vascetomy. If men could get pregnant, then needing an abortion, abortions would damn near be free. It would be like getting a mole removed. Restricting a woman's right to choose is simply another way to control women, period. There was a scene in The Godfather 2 where Michael's wife got an abortion, stating that she did not want to raise another male child in the Corleone family. This is a religious man's greatest fear, a woman that is free to choose her own destiny. The Patriarchal rule, this woman is dangerous, as history shows that a woman with freedom can bring down nations. White patriarchal rule is driven by the thought of Jesus coming back to finish the deal, and he is going to be on their side. Well if history serves itself well, White men of a certain privilege are going to have hell to pay, and it may have already begun. Thank you Mr. Trump.
 
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John Oliver blacked out last night omg. Dude had so much ether for that idiot.

2 bad he's 0-2 on Brexit & da US elections.

in what ways? You mean in predicting the outcome?

Well yea. I'm sure he's like most of us...he gave the people too much credit and underestimated the level of ignorance and stupidity that they could truly reach.

Is it really a shot at him for predicting wrong?

You're literally the only person I know that said Trump would be prez. And even you were just guessing.
50% blue or red. This truly is the matrix b.

not at all, i knew from da jump he had da right attitude in 2016 to run. that brawler take no prisoners attitude was being fostered from da eventual backlash of liberal elites.

just seeing it here da way NT mirrored da real world and seeing how sick i was wit da over reach of political correctness + da fact that da United States stop making products i liked here & putting 2 & 2 together that those jobs are lost to sourcing.

He basically rode a bull that was ready to charge at da perfect time...im mad i aint bet but i usually never bet anyways.
 
So if Trump can win, the mantra now is that ANYONE can win right?

How successful do any of you think Michelle Obama would be if she decided to pull a Hillary?

Though let's be real... Sasha and Malia running for Pres and Vice in the future would be a slam dunk win. :pimp:

And speaking of Michelle:

The director of a West Virginia development group and a mayor are under scrutiny after a racist post about first lady Michelle Obama caused a backlash and prompted calls on social media for both women to be fired.

Clay County Development Corp. director Pamela Ramsey Taylor made the post following Donald Trump's election as president, saying: "It will be refreshing to have a classy, beautiful, dignified First Lady in the White House. I'm tired of seeing a Ape in heels."

Clay Mayor Beverly Whaling responded: "Just made my day Pam."

The post, first reported by WSAZ-TV, was shared hundreds of times on social media before it was deleted.

The Facebook pages of Taylor and Whaling couldn't be found Monday. A call to the Clay County Development Corp. went unanswered and Whaling didn't immediately return a telephone message.

An online petition seeks to remove Whaling and Taylor. The nonprofit development group provides services to elderly and low-income residents in Clay County. It is funded through state and federal grants and local fees.

It is not affiliated with the town of Clay, which is about 50 miles east of Charleston.

African-Americans make up about 4 percent of West Virginia's 1.8 million residents, according to the U.S. Census.

About 77 percent of Clay County residents supported Trump in the Nov. 8 election. In 2012, President Barack Obama received 31 percent of the county vote when Republican Mitt Romney easily carried the state.

A message left for the West Virginia chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People wasn't immediately returned.

The town council has a previously scheduled meeting Tuesday.

Last week in Kentucky, Republican Dan Johnson defeated incumbent Democrat Linda Belcher in Bullitt County despite a series of Facebook posts that depicted Barack Obama and his wife as monkeys. Republican officials, including likely new House Speaker Jeff Hoover, had called on Johnson to drop out of the race. But Hoover declared last week that Johnson would be "welcome in our caucus."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/racist-post-michelle-obama-backlash-43524986
 
not at all, i knew from da jump he had da right attitude in 2016 to run. that brawler take no prisoners attitude was being fostered from da eventual backlash of liberal elites.

just seeing it here da way NT mirrored da real world and seeing how sick i was wit da over reach of political correctness + da fact that da United States stop making products i liked here & putting 2 & 2 together that those jobs are lost to sourcing.

He basically rode a bull that was ready to charge at da perfect time...im mad i aint bet but i usually never bet anyways.
When you are around other black people like yourself, do you make your political positions known? I mean, in person. How does that work out for you? Do you tell them that you are not black as well? How did you feel about the documentary about African's in Latin America, done by Skip Gates?
 
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So if Trump can win, the mantra now is that ANYONE can win right?

How successful do any of you think Michelle Obama would be if she decided to pull a Hillary?

Though let's be real... Sasha and Malia running for Pres and Vice in the future would be a slam dunk win. :pimp:

And speaking of Michelle:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/racist-post-michelle-obama-backlash-43524986
Lol, I had to tell someone off the other day in Rockerfeller Center for her suggesting that Michelle looked too "manly". I simply reminded her of her fake teeth and boobs, wondering what she'd look like without both. She was appalled, and I was glad.
 
not at all, i knew from da jump he had da right attitude in 2016 to run. that brawler take no prisoners attitude was being fostered from da eventual backlash of liberal elites.

just seeing it here da way NT mirrored da real world and seeing how sick i was wit da over reach of political correctness + da fact that da United States stop making products i liked here & putting 2 & 2 together that those jobs are lost to sourcing.

He basically rode a bull that was ready to charge at da perfect time...im mad i aint bet but i usually never bet anyways.
When you are around other black people like yourself, do you make your political positions known? I mean, in person. How does that work out for you? Do you tell them that you are not black as well? How did you feel about the documentary about African's in Latin America, done by Skip Gates?

your whole racial shtick is beyond played out. if you're not gonna respect da fact that im latino (which 30% of us voted for Trump) and not African American then i got nothing to say to u.
 
your whole racial shtick is beyond played out. if you're not gonna respect da fact that im latino (which 30% of us voted for Trump) and not African American then i got nothing to say to u.
Racial shtick? Since when has race been a shtick? Trump just won the election using it! Where are your ancestors from, do you know? How'd you get the melanin in your skin dude?
 
your whole racial shtick is beyond played out. if you're not gonna respect da fact that im latino (which 30% of us voted for Trump) and not African American then i got nothing to say to u.
Racial shtick? Since when has race been a shtick? Trump just won the election using it!

Trump never uttered a word about white people, da problem is da left made white people feel disenfranchised so they so they acted like a disenfranchised minority bloc.

Trump won voters that voted for Obama twice (me included) because his policies weren't working for them.
 
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