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Well said.

This is what that Simple Jack @Rico x Hood needs to hear.

He will flat out ignore or deflect all of this though. Smh


that is my problem with Rico. He seems to be a competent person and doing fine for himself but his reasonings and explanations on his viewpoints are just terrible imo

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So your argument for less government is that everyone is not meant to be successful? roll.gif

It would make sense if you said businesses feel like too many regulations hamstring their profit margin, but to say that we should have less government because not everyone is meant to have a support is just pure lolz.
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Businesses and people are the same to me. If you fail you fail. Plain and simple. I walk passed homeless people in DC and don't blink. I've said before, I'm not about others at this point in my life. I'm trying to put myself in a position later on to be philanthropic.

We are talking about civics and governing people, not about how you feel about homeless people.
The role of every government in the world is to limit crime, provide some type of support to its citizens, and encourage a good economy. For the government to ignore the problem of poverty would just encourage more failures in our country.
All you have really said is your own personal ideology.

QFE.

This is the social contract without which the concept of society wouldn't exist. For that agreement to be upheld, people should contribute to society to the best of their abilities and society should reward that production by providing them the means to turn into positive contributors. Hard work counts, but it is relevant only after the opportunity to use those means has been fulfilled.

Rico's ideology is in direct contradiction with the very idea of society.
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QFE.

This is the social contract without which the concept of society wouldn't exist. For that agreement to be upheld, people should contribute to society to the best of their abilities and society should reward that production by providing them the means to turn into positive contributors. Hard work counts, but it is relevant only after the opportunity to use those means has been fulfilled.

Rico's ideology is in direct contradiction with the very idea of society.

There it is.

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post #50494 of 70343
yup.

people need to have the attitude he has on an individual level but society/government has a job to protect and enforce the social contract because it's mutually beneficial.
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post #50495 of 70343
Thread is so much easier to read without ninja roll.gif At least Rico is speaking his mind rather than copy pasting articles and pulling out his thesaurus.
post #50496 of 70343
one point that may not have been mentioned in regards to the ACA: insurers used to be able have lifetime limits on coverage. so you could easily blow through your health insurance and 6 months of savings if you have an "expensive" disease.

this article raises some good points regarding the debate on health insurance: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/opinion/seven-questions-about-health-reform.html
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post #50497 of 70343
Someone on my fb feed posted this. He said all the info is verified, n listed sources at the end. Thoughts?

Not my words but here are some facts.
1) Trump owes Blackstone/ Bayrock group $560 million dollars (one of his largest debtors and the primary reason he won't reveal his tax returns)
2) Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian billionaires, who owe their position to Putin and have made billions from their work with the Russian government.
3) Other companies that have borrowed from Blackstone have claimed that owing money to them is like owing to the Russian mob and while you owe them, they own you for many favors.
4) The Russian economy is badly faltering under the weight of its over-dependence on raw materials which as you know have plummeted in the last 2 years leaving the Russian economy scrambling to pay its debts.
5) Russia has an impetus to influence our election to ensure the per barrel oil prices are above $65 ( they are currently hovering around $50)
6) Russia can't affordably get at 80% of its oil reserves and reduce its per barrel cost to compete with America at $45 or Saudi Arabia at $39. With Iranian sanctions being lifted Russia will find another inexpensive competitor increasing production and pushing Russia further down the list of suppliers.
As for Iranian sanctions, the 6 countries lifting them allowing Iran to collect on the billions it is owed for pumping oil but not being paid for it. These billions Iran can only get if the Iranian nuclear deal is signed. Trump spoke of ending the deals which would cause oil sales sanctions to be reimposed, which would make Russian oil more competitive.
7) Rex Tillerson (Trump's pick for Secretary of State) is the head of ExxonMobil, which is in possession of patented technology that could help Putin extract 45% more oil at a significant cost savings to Russia, helping Putin put money in the Russian coffers to help reconstitute its military and finally afford to mass produce the new and improved systems that it had invented before the Russian economy had slowed so much.
glasses.gif Putin cannot get access to these new cost saving technologies OR outside oil field development money, due to US sanctions on Russia, because of its involvement in Ukrainian civil war.
9) Look for Trump to end sanctions on Russia and to back out of the Iranian nuclear deal, to help Russia rebuild its economy, strengthen Putin and make Tillerson and Trump even richer, thus allowing Trump to satisfy his creditors at Blackstone.
10) With Trump's fabricated hatred of NATO and the U.N., the Russian military reconstituted, the threat to the Baltic states is real. Russia retaking their access to the Baltic Sea from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and threatening the shipping of millions of cubic feet of natural gas to lower Europe from Scandinavia, would allow Russia to make a good case for its oil and gas being piped into eastern Europe.
Sources: Time Magazine, NY Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian UK.
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post #50498 of 70343
Blackstone isn't owned by russians.
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Gotcha, good lookin. I was unsure, so i figured id post it here kuz yall quik with the fakt checking smokin.gif
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I'm back. I'm out at dinner right now. But I have to respond. I'm in a damn bathroom. The main catalyst in all this is the PEOPLE. Why don't they know these simple steps to get ahead. Do well in school. Go to college. Get a job. Flourish. If the job market is bad. Save up from whatever you're doing. Go back to school. Flourish. If that don't work your area is **** and you should move. It's all up to how far the PERSON is willing to go to succeed in life. The government is not a crutch. Do for yourself.
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Simple steps >D If life was so simple that anyone could look at a list and flourish why aren't more people doing it?

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Gotcha, good lookin. I was unsure, so i figured id post it here kuz yall quik with the fakt checking smokin.gif

That sounds like a decent movie plot though nerd.gif Get some action in it and make it dramatic
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Simple steps grin.gif  If life was so simple that anyone could look at a list and flourish why aren't more people doing it?

Why isn't he?
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Simple steps grin.gif  If life was so simple that anyone could look at a list and flourish why aren't more people doing it?

Well if that doesnt work theres always

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Gotcha, good lookin. I was unsure, so i figured id post it here kuz yall quik with the fakt checking smokin.gif

That sounds like a decent movie plot though nerd.gif Get some action in it and make it dramatic

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Simple steps grin.gif  If life was so simple that anyone could look at a list and flourish why aren't more people doing it?

The best part was the job market thing.

Your job sucks/you can't get one? Don't worry, save the money you're not making and move. It's fool proof.

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I'm back. I'm out at dinner right now. But I have to respond. I'm in a damn bathroom. The main catalyst in all this is the PEOPLE. Why don't they know these simple steps to get ahead. Do well in school. Go to college. Get a job. Flourish. If the job market is bad. Save up from whatever you're doing. Go back to school. Flourish. If that don't work your area is **** and you should move. It's all up to how far the PERSON is willing to go to succeed in life. The government is not a crutch. Do for yourself.
Narrow-minded thinking again. You just don't get it do you?
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I'm back. I'm out at dinner right now. But I have to respond. I'm in a damn bathroom. The main catalyst in all this is the PEOPLE. Why don't they know these simple steps to get ahead. Do well in school. Go to college. Get a job. Flourish. If the job market is bad. Save up from whatever you're doing. Go back to school. Flourish. If that don't work your area is **** and you should move. It's all up to how far the PERSON is willing to go to succeed in life. The government is not a crutch. Do for yourself.

mean.gif Sadly and no offense but you really seem so out of touch with reality. Do you know any public school educators in the inner city? Talk to them. Go and speak to some of these kids and the problems they face on the daily. I know you don't care about anyone but yourself but you really should get some life experiences. It's a good wake up call when you actually hear it from someone instead of reading text on a computer screen.
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Simple steps grin.gif  If life was so simple that anyone could look at a list and flourish why aren't more people doing it?

The best part was the job market thing.

Your job sucks/you can't get one? Don't worry, save the money you're not making and move. It's fool proof.

Following his advice you would end up as one of those homeless people he passes by without blinking
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post #50509 of 70343
What about teachers who are essential but get paid ****, should they switch careers and say screw the kids?
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Simple steps grin.gif  If life was so simple that anyone could look at a list and flourish why aren't more people doing it?

The best part was the job market thing.

Your job sucks/you can't get one? Don't worry, save the money you're not making and move. It's fool proof.

 

I wasn't even gonna touch that one. I've seen the effects of such thinking here in NY my whole life.

Young homeless people in their 20s are all over manhattan :{ 

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I don't think Rico is as smart as we'd like to give him credit for.
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@Moe Fab

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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/us/politics/donald-trump-soho-settlement.html?
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For Donald J. Trump, it is a long-held legal strategy, if not a point of pride, to avoid knuckling under to plaintiffs in court.

“I don’t settle lawsuits — very rare — because once you settle lawsuits, everybody sues you,” he said recently.

But Mr. Trump made an exception when buyers of units in Trump SoHo, a 46-story luxury condominium-hotel in Lower Manhattan, asserted that they had been defrauded by inflated claims made by Mr. Trump, his children and others of brisk sales in the struggling project. He and his co-defendants settled the case in November 2011, agreeing to refund 90 percent of $3.16 million in deposits, while admitting no wrongdoing.

The backdrop to that unusual denouement was a gathering legal storm that threatened to cast a harsh light on how he did business. Besides the fraud accusations, a separate lawsuit claimed that Trump SoHo was developed with the undisclosed involvement of convicted felons and financing from questionable sources in Russia and Kazakhstan.

The article is from Apr 2016. It mentions Bayrock group, a development company that was headed by two guys from Russia and Kazakhstan with had criminal records. No mention of Blackstone in it.
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I have a very strong feeling that Trump may get impeached. His press conference today was awful and he is facing huge conflict of interests with his business. What do you guys think?
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Homelessness is rampant here in san bernardino too. The lokal government has been korrupt for dekades n that has put a stranglehold on any progress. Not to mention the gangs, drugs, n overall hopelessness in the youth. However, in my experience with the homeless, most of the younger ones are on the streets due to drug use. They steal from their fam kuz they strung out, so then the fam kicks them out. If they weren't on drugs, or are willing to do rehab, theyd be welkomed back home, but the drugs, especially heroin, got em by the balls. This affekts my fam as well, kuz my kuzn on that karga n doesnt want to stop, so hes been reduced to bein homeless as well.
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The hell is up with the Ks?
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Homelessness is rampant here in san bernardino too. The lokal government has been korrupt for dekades n that has put a stranglehold on any progress. Not to mention the gangs, drugs, n overall hopelessness in the youth. However, in my experience with the homeless, most of the younger ones are on the streets due to drug use. They steal from their fam kuz they strung out, so then the fam kicks them out. If they weren't on drugs, or are willing to do rehab, theyd be welkomed back home, but the drugs, especially heroin, got em by the balls. This affekts my fam as well, kuz my kuzn on that karga n doesnt want to stop, so hes been reduced to bein homeless as well.
Why don't you use the letter "c" in your posts? Lol
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I'm back. I'm out at dinner right now. But I have to respond. I'm in a damn bathroom. The main catalyst in all this is the PEOPLE. Why don't they know these simple steps to get ahead. Do well in school. Go to college. Get a job. Flourish. If the job market is bad. Save up from whatever you're doing. Go back to school. Flourish. If that don't work your area is **** and you should move. It's all up to how far the PERSON is willing to go to succeed in life. The government is not a crutch. Do for yourself.

You post things like this and you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

It would not even be an improbable scenario if we had the European post secondary education, where school is cheap and the only thing they require is your effort.

In the context of the US, you just spent the equivalent of a house on an education in an in-demand field that happens to tank when you graduate (shout out to petroleum engineers). Now what? You can try to keep your skills current and avoid the dreaded employment gap by any means necessary (even if it means taking that server job) or you can take another 80k loan to pay for another degree so that when you come out, enployers say you're overqualified for their entry level position.

**** doesn't entirely depend on you, which is why a society HAS TO WORK FOR the people as much as people work for society (and in my example, that would be a society that has made acquiring professional skills cheap enough that it should be financially penalizing to change careers).
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@Moe Fab

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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/us/politics/donald-trump-soho-settlement.html?
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For Donald J. Trump, it is a long-held legal strategy, if not a point of pride, to avoid knuckling under to plaintiffs in court.

“I don’t settle lawsuits — very rare — because once you settle lawsuits, everybody sues you,” he said recently.

But Mr. Trump made an exception when buyers of units in Trump SoHo, a 46-story luxury condominium-hotel in Lower Manhattan, asserted that they had been defrauded by inflated claims made by Mr. Trump, his children and others of brisk sales in the struggling project. He and his co-defendants settled the case in November 2011, agreeing to refund 90 percent of $3.16 million in deposits, while admitting no wrongdoing.

The backdrop to that unusual denouement was a gathering legal storm that threatened to cast a harsh light on how he did business. Besides the fraud accusations, a separate lawsuit claimed that Trump SoHo was developed with the undisclosed involvement of convicted felons and financing from questionable sources in Russia and Kazakhstan.

The article is from Apr 2016. It mentions Bayrock group, a development company that was headed by two guys from Russia and Kazakhstan with had criminal records. No mention of Blackstone in it.

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I have a very strong feeling that Trump may get impeached. His press conference today was awful and he is facing huge conflict of interests with his business. What do you guys think?

Yeah, todays presser was a katastrophe. He only took questions from the people he liked, n even those questions he either gave vague answers to, or kompletely avoided answer by going on a tangent. He may get impeached, but will the republikans in kongress have the backbone to go against him. Especially with the potential backlash that will likely kome from the trump supporters that are the konstituents of said kongressmen. Id like to give trump the benefit of the doubt, but hes done absolutely nothing to give me even a remote shred of konfidence.



EDIT: The K's in my posts stem from an inside joke with other posters. I used to substitute K's in a few words, but then they started to spellcheck, words with C's, to have the letter K. From there it just snowballed laugh.gif
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I have a very strong feeling that Trump may get impeached. His press conference today was awful and he is facing huge conflict of interests with his business. What do you guys think?

u need to control da house to start impeachment proceedings so.. laugh.gif

seen that Trump press conference. "a sonnin" would be a appropriate descriptor.

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Eurocentric individualism has been a great detriment to society.

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