***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[ninjahood]

filibuster

Now I ain't one hundred percent sure but I'm willing to bet trump has donated to the new minority leader once or twice....

once Trump serves up that infrastructure bill that dems been wet dreaming about, Trump will get basically w/e he wants.

 

[brendasdeadbaby]

once Trump serves up that infrastructure bill that dems been wet dreaming about, Trump will get basically w/e he wants.

Thoughts???

 

[RIP sleazyy]

That cast was petty as hell. I'd have asked for a refund if I was there. I go to the theater to be entertained not have personal political preferences shoved down my throat. No matter what side it comes from.

You do realize that Hamilton is a political theater play
And second, show me where Pence was disrespected other than the audience booing him
And third, Pence wasn't even offended by the cast
And fourth, I'm sure Abraham Lincoln would have been ok with getting booed by the crowd instead of....you know....getting shot by someone

 

[gry60]

So ya been badgering me to respond about a video jeff sessions made about Dominicans...and all he did was offer a critique on chain migration (which isn't going anywhere anytime soon) and sham marriages which nothing revealing or shocking

(see sanky panky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanky_Panky_(film))

some of ya so desperate in da demise at liberalism ya just throwing spaghetti on da wall at this point.

liberals & their hacks lost November 8th, time for some of ya to have introspection on why democrats have become tone-deaf to da majority needs of da country...and are now a endangered species.

getting out of ya echo chamber would help tremendously.

That's not all he did Ninja. He said:

Fundamentally, almost no one coming from the Dominican Republic to the United States is coming here because they have a provable skill that would benefit us and that would indicate their likely success in our society

Liberals may have lost the election, but what the country is losing is much bigger and you will find out when Trump is done playing president (if ever).

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-one-talks-about/

All the things highlighted here are the SAME issues that plague poor urban communities.

Poor white people are made fun of? Well, "welcome to the club" said poor non-whites; and instead of fighting for respect and consideration like their minority counterparts have been doing ever since they've set foot on this land, they decided to gift the country to a known con artist who will proceed to plunder it some more.

What seems lost on you is the fact that the "elitist" left actually supports the kind of policies that will help them ease their way into a changing America, one that accommodates everyone. But what's the point of continuing to tell people that you want to help them help themselves instead of the alternative, which is empty promises and dreams?

 

[EddieDoyers]

That cast was petty as hell. I'd have asked for a refund if I was there. I go to the theater to be entertained not have personal political preferences shoved down my throat. No matter what side it comes from.

A full refund though? 
It's not that big of a deal. I'm not interested in hearing politics when I go to a theater either but if it happens it is what it is.
They can say whatever they want as a final note for all I care. I'm there for the show. It's not like they interrupted the show to do so.

The show is based on an American politician and the early history of America too....so you know, their speech at Pence wasn't out of the ordinary

 

[rolaholic]

filibuster

Now I ain't one hundred percent sure but I'm willing to bet trump has donated to the new minority leader once or twice....

That could explain this deleted tweet from earlier

 

[boris]

That cast was petty as hell. I'd have asked for a refund if I was there. I go to the theater to be entertained not have personal political preferences shoved down my throat. No matter what side it comes from.

They thanked him and asked him to work on behalf of all of us. I guess that's too political.

 

[pdino]

Last month the Filipino president, Duterte told Obama to go to hell and called him a "son of a *****". Obama shrugged it off.

How do you guys think Trump would respond to the exact same comments? Seriously.

 

[Belgium]

 
Last month the Filipino president, Duterte told Obama to go to hell and called him a "son of a *****". Obama shrugged it off.

How do you guys think Trump would respond to the exact same comments? Seriously.

A 3AM tweetstorm of insults

 

[brendasdeadbaby]

Last month the Filipino president, Duterte told Obama to go to hell and called him a "son of a *****". Obama shrugged it off.

How do you guys think Trump would respond to the exact same comments? Seriously.

Everything is eye for an eye with trump he would have called him out on twitter and/or had navy ships cruising the coastlines to intimidate/instigate

 

[EddieDoyers]

Last month the Filipino president, Duterte told Obama to go to hell and called him a "son of a *****". Obama shrugged it off.

How do you guys think Trump would respond to the exact same comments? Seriously.

Hell George W Bush got slandered by Stephen Colbert at the WH correspondents dinner and the guy didn't publicly demand Colbert to apologize
How some republicans are already defending trump show that they are mindless sheep who don't understand the first amendment

 

[SC kid]

"Duterte said some very very not nice things about me. He needs to focus on his country ...hes got his people....and theyre killing everybody...i mean its just a mess folks. Theyre going around and just shooting everyone and raping and hes telling them to do it! Theyre savages ....raping...murdering...chicken embryo eating savages. Its just disgraceful that a leader of a country would use words like that....just disgraceful. So you know what were going to do....were going to build a dam. We are going to build a dam in the ocean so that those savages cannot come here...we cant allow that people. ..were going to build a dam...and they're going to pay for it"

 

[rico x hood]

You do realize that Hamilton is a political theater play
And second, show me where Pence was disrespected other than the audience booing him
And third, Pence wasn't even offended by the cast
*And fourth, I'm sure Abraham Lincoln would have been ok with getting booed by the crowd instead of....you know....getting shot by someone[\b]

If ever there was a greater false equivalency on this board, I've yet to see it. Yes I know it's a political play. But like I said I don't go to the theater to get brow beat by the cast members personal political leanings.

On last Thursday I went to see Love Jones: The Musical. They had one line in their about Trump and I just chalked it up then incorporating some big current event to keep it current. But that's a modern show, so it made sense. Hamilton, nah so much.

A full refund though? 
It's not that big of a deal. I'm not interested in hearing politics when I go to a theater either but if it happens it is what it is.
They can say whatever they want as a final note for all I care. I'm there for the show. It's not like they interrupted the show to do so.

See above statement.

 

[EddieDoyers]

You do realize that Hamilton is a political theater play
And second, show me where Pence was disrespected other than the audience booing him
And third, Pence wasn't even offended by the cast
*And fourth, I'm sure Abraham Lincoln would have been ok with getting booed by the crowd instead of....you know....getting shot by someone[\b]

If ever there was a greater false equivalency on this board, I've yet to see it. Yes I know it's a political play. But like I said I don't go to the theater to get brow beat by the cast members personal political leanings.

A full refund though? 
It's not that big of a deal. I'm not interested in hearing politics when I go to a theater either but if it happens it is what it is.
They can say whatever they want as a final note for all I care. I'm there for the show. It's not like they interrupted the show to do so.

See above statement.

Oh boo hoo
Colbert slandered George W Bush right in front of his face and Dubya took it like a man
Pence took it like a man and said he wasn't offended
Trump needs to grow up and stop being petty

 

[seandon23]

"Duterte said some very very not nice things about me. He needs to focus on his country ...hes got his people....and theyre killing everybody...i mean its just a mess folks. Theyre going around and just shooting everyone and raping and hes telling them to do it! Theyre savages ....raping...murdering...chicken embryo eating savages. Its just disgraceful that a leader of a country would use words like that....just disgraceful. So you know what were going to do....were going to build a dam. We are going to build a dam in the ocean so that those savages cannot come here...we cant allow that people. ..were going to build a dam...and they're going to pay for it"

 

[rico x hood]

Oh boo hoo
Colbert slandered George W Bush right in front of his face and Dubya took it like a man
Pence took it like a man and said he wasn't offended
Trump needs to grow up and stop being petty

The corespondents dinner is meant to be a **** talking affair though. We just going to act like Obama didn't get at Trump there and Trump took it in stride. There's a time and place.

 

[deleted]

There was no "time and place" talk for the past 8 years

I wonder why things should suddenly be different

 

[rico x hood]

There was no "time and place" talk for the past 8 years

I wonder why things should suddenly be different

Elaborate.

 

[gry60]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...bad-sign-for-all-but-americas-biggest-cities/

Americans in small counties are much less likely to start new
businesses, a trend that jeopardizes the economic future of vast
swaths of the country.
By Jim Tankersley May 22
Americans in small towns and rural communities are dramatically less likely to start new businesses than they have been in the
past, an unprecedented trend that jeopardizes the economic future of vast swaths of the country.
The recovery from the Great Recession has seen a nationwide slowdown in the creation of new businesses, or start­ups. What
growth has occurred has been largely confined to a handful of large and innovative areas, including Silicon Valley in California,
New York City and parts of Texas, according to a new analysis of Census Bureau data by the Economic Innovation Group, a
bipartisan research and advocacy organization that was founded by the Silicon Valley entrepreneur Sean Parker and small
group of investors.
That concentration of start­up activity is unusual, economists say. In the early 1990s recovery, 125 counties combined to
generate half the total new business establishments in the country. In this recovery, just 20 counties have generated half the
growth.
The data suggest highly populated areas are not adding start­ups faster now than they did in the past; they appear simply to be
treading water. But rural areas have seen their business formation fall off a cliff.
Economists say the divergence appears to reflect a combination of trends, all of which have harmed small businesses in rural
America. Those include the rise of big­box retailers such as Walmart, the loss of millions of manufacturing and construction
jobs across the country and a pullback in business lending that appears to have stung small­town and rural borrowers
particularly hard.
The changes also reflect a fundamental shift over the past two decades in which workers and industries power the country’s
economic growth. That shift advantages highly educated urbanites at the expense of everyone else. Polling suggests it is one of
the driving forces in the political unrest among working ­class Americans — particularly rural white men — who have flocked to
Republican Donald Trump’s presidential campaign this year.
“Capital chases high ­growth ideas, and high­ growth ideas tend to be concentrated in areas of highly educated and highly skilled
workforce,” said Manuel Adelino, an economist at the Fuqua School of Business at Duke University who has published several
research papers on entrepreneurship patterns and credit availability. “This suggests that the lack of new business formation in
rural America may lead to widening gaps in income and employment” between those areas and big cities.
Other experts warn that the trends could be self ­perpetuating and endanger the very life of rural economies in the years to
come.
“It’s going to get much much worse,” said John Lettieri, a former Republican congressional aide who is a co­founder of the
Economic Innovation Group. “As bleak as these numbers are now, these may be the good years.”
From 2010 through 2014, U.S. counties with 100,000 or fewer residents combined to lose more businesses than they created
— despite a growing national economy and a falling unemployment rate. In the recovery beginning in 1992, by comparison,
those counties created a third of the nation’s new businesses on net.
The smaller counties have seen their job creation rates fall off over the past three recoveries as well. In the ’90s recovery, lesspopulated
counties accounted for more than 1 in 4 new jobs in the country. In the recovery beginning in 2002, that had fallen
to 1 in 5. In this recovery, it is less than 1 in 10.
Nearly 2 out of 3 rural counties lost businesses, on net, from 2010 to 2014. That is up from just over 2 in 5 counties in the early
2000s and just under 1 in 5 in the ’90s. The counties shedding establishments span the country and include almost every
variety of rural areas, from farming and manufacturing communities in Missouri to coal­reliant swatches of Appalachia
to coastal counties in the Pacific Northwest where the timber and fishing industries have dwindled.
Those findings confirm the deep geographic divisions in this recovery that other data have revealed.
Through the second quarter of this year, according to a Brookings Institution analysis of Moody’s Analytics data, the United
States’ 100 largest metro areas had recovered all of the jobs they lost in the Great Recession and added nearly 6 million jobs.
The rest of the country, combined, was barely 300,000 jobs over its pre­recession peak.
What the EIG analysis reveals is how concentrated business activity has become even within metro areas. Many midsize urban
areas, such as the counties including Spokane, Wash., and Tucson, have seen their business formation rates slow in this
recovery. The counties including two major Rust Belt cities, Cleveland and Detroit, have a net loss of businesses.
The concentration in part reflects the differences in the brand of entrepreneurship historically practiced in rural areas,
compared with the higher ­tech start­ups that have risen up in recent decades. Recent research suggests there has been no
decline in the formation rate for the Silicon Valley­ style start­ups that economists generally consider to be “high growth,”
which means the sort of companies that could sprout to employ hundreds or thousands of Americans.
The drop has come in the formation rate for other types of businesses, such as small manufacturers, construction firms and
service establishments, such as restaurants. Those small businesses have traditionally served as critical vehicles for wealthbuilding
and economic mobility in much of America. The sandwich shops of that world, as Adelino puts it, are struggling;
Google­type start­ups are not.
Not surprisingly, then, the 20 counties that combined for half the country’s new business formation are almost entirely pillars
of the innovation economy. They include the counties surrounding San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York, Miami, Austin,
Dallas and Chicago.
Those areas contain higher ­income, more highly educated workers, who appear to have had a much easier time accessing
capital — the infusion of money you need to start a business — in this recovery than workers in the rest of the country.
After the Great Recession, lower­ income borrowers were effectively shut out of credit markets, Adelino’s research shows, a
finding supported by data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Industry groups and many economists have warned
that the Dodd ­Frank financial regulation act, passed in 2010, has forced smaller banks that often serve rural communities to
tighten their lending.
Jason Furman, who chairs President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, says his research rejects that view. “There’s very
little evidence that Dodd ­Frank has reduced lending by community banks,” he said.
Previous economic transformations, such as the shift from farms to factories, have drawn Americans from rural areas into
cities. Economists worry this case may prove more damaging, though, for workers, rural America and the country’s overall
economic performance.
“New businesses are key to innovation, growth and jobs,” said Kenneth Rogoff, a Harvard University economist who advises
the Economic Innovation Group. An increase in monopoly power from reduced competition, post­recession, he added, “is
widely regarded as one of the major factors slowing innovation and weakening the quality of job growth.”

 

[EddieDoyers]

Oh boo hoo
Colbert slandered George W Bush right in front of his face and Dubya took it like a man
Pence took it like a man and said he wasn't offended
Trump needs to grow up and stop being petty

The corespondents dinner is meant to be a **** talking affair though. We just going to act like Obama didn't get at Trump there and Trump took it in stride. There's a time and place.

So when a cast member asking Pence that he is worried about the potential of discrimination rising and rights being decreased with the administration, he should apologize for that?
Word Rico, I can understand the caping since you're Republican, but people have the right to voice out at a public servant no matter the place. It comes with the job. Trump should be like Pence and stop being thin skinned when it comes to differing public opinions.

 

[Belgium]

If ever there was a greater false equivalency on this board, I've yet to see it. Yes I know it's a political play. But like I said I don't go to the theater to get brow beat by the cast members personal political leanings.

On last Thursday I went to see Love Jones: The Musical. They had one line in their about Trump and I just chalked it up then incorporating some big current event to keep it current. But that's a modern show, so it made sense. Hamilton, nah so much.
See above statement.

But to ask for a refund for the whole show simply because the cast addressed Pence as a final note? And in a completely respectful manner.

Don't you think that's extreme? 

 

[ninjahood]

So ya been badgering me to respond about a video jeff sessions made about Dominicans...and all he did was offer a critique on chain migration (which isn't going anywhere anytime soon) and sham marriages which nothing revealing or shocking

(see sanky panky https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanky_Panky_(film))

some of ya so desperate in da demise at liberalism ya just throwing spaghetti on da wall at this point.

liberals & their hacks lost November 8th, time for some of ya to have introspection on why democrats have become tone-deaf to da majority needs of da country...and are now a endangered species.

getting out of ya echo chamber would help tremendously.

That's not all he did Ninja. He said:

Fundamentally, almost no one coming from the Dominican Republic to the United States is coming here because they have a provable skill that would benefit us and that would indicate their likely success in our society

why don't ya stop playing "gotcha" and post da full clip where he's talking about his critique of chain migration & sham marriages? of course ya wont cuz then da narrative collapses

liberals tears continue to flow a week later

 

[ninjahood]

some of ya should watch meet da press & understand how Trump flipped Obama counties red.

 

[ksteezy]

Ay ninjahood how do you feel about your new attorney general now??

Has he addressed this? Or is he gonna tap dance around it as he always does when it doesn't benefit his argument?

 

[rico x hood]

So when a cast member asking Pence that he is worried about the potential of discrimination rising and rights being decreased with the administration, he should apologize for that?
Word Rico, I can understand the caping since you're Republican, but people have the right to voice out at a public servant no matter the place. It comes with the job. Trump should be like Pence and stop being thin skinned when it comes to differing public opinions.

Yes true. But as a consumer I shouldn't have to be hear your protest. Especially when I paid for tickets. But you're right people have to the right to voice their concerns for public officials. And I'm not a Republican.