***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[ninjahood]

400 pairs of worn sneakers

i wish i had time to UNDS all my kicks..still got CDP packs DS

carry on though.

 

[rolaholic]

Starting to look more and more like Bannon is the puppet master pulling the strings which is terrifying...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/27/u...e-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Check out how he feels about possibly excluding Black folks from voting

I used to think Trump was using his tweets to distract from his moves but now it's probably Bannon using Trump as a shield from the spotlight/closer scrutiny to push his WS agenda in silence...

 

[sfc415]

A fact that would only impress a teenage male hypebeast

 

[osh kosh bosh]

There have been plenty of ACA alternatives proposed. One of them was opening insurance across state lines in attempt to drive overall costs down because competition would be created. ACA only passed because the Dems controlled the House and Senate at the time. There were no Republicans that voted on it. Hell, no politician even read the bill. Pelosi herself said that we'll have to pass it and see what happens. However, her district was exempt from the ACA and she isn't required to get her insurance from it. Another myth that Obama couldn't get anything done because no one would work with him. The first two years of his presidency were that in which Washington was held firmly by Democrats.

Dog.


DOG.


Please stop with this. This is not a proposal by itself, to replace obamacare, and would do next to nothing to keep costs down. I've explained why countless times but I will do it again.


It seems like a good idea right? getting rid of imaginary lines right? But it doesn't do anything, now why?


1. Every state has different healthcare regulations and minimum coverage requirements, by allowing states to sell across state lines you would simply create a "Delaware" effect, where insurance providers would all simply move to the state with the laxest insurance regulations.

And it's not even a small government solution because To prevent this you would nee to build a new bureaucracy to regulate healthcare nationally, essentially increasing size of federal goverment.

2. Building insurance networks is hard.

It's not like you can start selling insurance intimidate once you get rid of state liness, you gotta build a coverage networks, gotta make deals with hospitals, doctors and these hospitals and doctors already have deals with entrenched state providers and you gotta comply with state regulations, for insurance providers it's not worth there time.

3. States have tried this and it did nothing.

http://www.rwjf.org/content/dam/farm/reports/issue_briefs/2012/rwjf401409


The barrier to entry is not the imaginary lines b.



So for the love of god can we finally move on from this idea, and come up with real Obamacare replace options? :x

 

[ninjahood]

A fact that would only impress a teenage male hypebeast

evidence suggests by who waits all these yeezy lines that hypebeastin has no age limits in 2016..carry on

 

[RustyShackleford]

If you don't like Obamacare that's fine, but you gotta have a response better than just repealing it, because the coal minors in west virginia with black lung who health insurance becasue of ACA won't be happy, and the single mother with a child with a precisting condition won't be happy


these will be easy issues for the Dems to take back the midwest from republicans.

Spoken like someone that has spent much time in the American midwest.

 

[sfc415]

I interact with people who take notice of houses/apartments, cars, wedding destinations, flights to different countries, etc. I don't live in your trash world of adults stuck in their teens who get impressed by ugly sneakers.

 

[hennessy]

400 pairs of worn sneakers

i wish i had time to UNDS all my kicks..still got CDP packs DS

carry on though.

So you are holding onto the notion these are good investments still? As if a few of your pairs being DS makes a difference

Way to ignore the rest of my post. I'm sure the truth hurt. You washed fam

 

[ninjahood]

400 pairs of worn sneakers

i wish i had time to UNDS all my kicks..still got CDP packs DS

carry on though.

So you are holding onto the notion these are good investments still? As if a few of your pairs being DS makes a difference

Way to ignore the rest of my post. I'm sure the truth hurt. You washed fam

i can get MSRP minimum on 99% of kicks i own.

what u talking bout b...im still waiting on where im losing money.

 

[RustyShackleford]

There have been plenty of ACA alternatives proposed. One of them was opening insurance across state lines in attempt to drive overall costs down because competition would be created. ACA only passed because the Dems controlled the House and Senate at the time. There were no Republicans that voted on it. Hell, no politician even read the bill. Pelosi herself said that we'll have to pass it and see what happens. However, her district was exempt from the ACA and she isn't required to get her insurance from it. Another myth that Obama couldn't get anything done because no one would work with him. The first two years of his presidency were that in which Washington was held firmly by Democrats.

Dog.


DOG.


Please stop with this. This is not a proposal by itself, to replace obamacare, and would do next to nothing to keep costs down. I've explained why countless times but I will do it again.


It seems like a good idea right? getting rid of imaginary lines right? But it doesn't do anything, now why?


1. Every state has different healthcare regulations and minimum coverage requirements, by allowing states to sell across state lines you would simply create a "Delaware" effect, where insurance providers would all simply move to the state with the laxest insurance regulations.

And it's not even a small government solution because To prevent this you would nee to build a new bureaucracy to regulate healthcare nationally, essentially increasing size of federal goverment.

2. Building insurance networks is hard.

It's not like you can start selling insurance intimidate once you get rid of state liness, you gotta build a coverage networks, gotta make deals with hospitals, doctors and these hospitals and doctors already have deals with entrenched state providers and you gotta comply with state regulations, for insurance providers it's not worth there time.

3. States have tried this and it did nothing.

http://www.rwjf.org/content/dam/farm/reports/issue_briefs/2012/rwjf401409


The barrier to entry is not the imaginary lines b.



So for the love of god can we finally move on from this idea, and come up with real Obamacare replace options? :x

Brah you already know the best alternatives are more liberal plans.

The GOP is just repackage Obamacare, allow for more price discrimination, drop some patient protections, and rely on people's lack of information to market it as a better solution.

 

[llerraj]

Dog.


DOG.

Please stop with this. This is not a proposal by itself, to replace obamacare, and would do next to nothing to keep costs down. I've explained why countless times but I will do it again.


It seems like a good idea right? getting rid of imaginary lines right? But it doesn't do anything, now why?


1. Every state has different healthcare regulations and minimum coverage requirements, by allowing states to sell across state lines you would simply create a "Delaware" effect, where insurance providers would all simply move to the state with the laxest insurance regulations.

And it's not even a small government solution because To prevent this you would nee to build a new bureaucracy to regulate healthcare nationally, essentially increasing size of federal goverment.

2. Building insurance networks is hard.

It's not like you can start selling insurance intimidate once you get rid of state liness, you gotta build a coverage networks, gotta make deals with hospitals, doctors and these hospitals and doctors already have deals with entrenched state providers and you gotta comply with state regulations, for insurance providers it's not worth there time.

3. States have tried this and it did nothing.

http://www.rwjf.org/content/dam/farm/reports/issue_briefs/2012/rwjf401409


The barrier to entry is not the imaginary lines b.



So for the love of god can we finally move on from this idea, and come up with real Obamacare replace options?

Did I say I said that? I said that was an alternative proposed. Don't sit here and attempt to lecture me. Cats get real comfortable behind these computer screens and love talking greasy. Half the **** y'all say wouldn't be said in person. Not a peep. So don't try to patronize other people on here for props.

I already told your groupie that I'm down to meet in person. Feel free to PM me. I have the whole week off.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Selling across state lines can work if regulate if properly at the federal level you bundle a few profitable states with lesser ones.

So companies won't be selling insurance in 50 different states, they would be selling it in 4-15 regions.

Make the healthy states help subsidized the costlier ones.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Dog.



DOG.



Please stop with this. This is not a proposal by itself, to replace obamacare, and would do next to nothing to keep costs down. I've explained why countless times but I will do it again.



It seems like a good idea right? getting rid of imaginary lines right? But it doesn't do anything, now why?



1. Every state has different healthcare regulations and minimum coverage requirements, by allowing states to sell across state lines you would simply create a "Delaware" effect, where insurance providers would all simply move to the state with the laxest insurance regulations.


And it's not even a small government solution because To prevent this you would nee to build a new bureaucracy to regulate healthcare nationally, essentially increasing size of federal goverment.


2. Building insurance networks is hard.


It's not like you can start selling insurance intimidate once you get rid of state liness, you gotta build a coverage networks, gotta make deals with hospitals, doctors and these hospitals and doctors already have deals with entrenched state providers and you gotta comply with state regulations, for insurance providers it's not worth there time.


3. States have tried this and it did nothing.

http://www.rwjf.org/content/dam/farm/reports/issue_briefs/2012/rwjf401409



The barrier to entry is not the imaginary lines b.




So for the love of god can we finally move on from this idea, and come up with real Obamacare replace options? :x

Did I say I said that? I said that was an alternative proposed. Don't sit here and attempt to lecture me. Cats get real comfortable behind these computer screens and love talking greasy. Half the **** y'all say wouldn't be said in person. Not a peep. So don't try to patronize other people on here for props.

I already told your groupie that I'm down to meet in person. Feel free to PM me. I have the whole week off.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Did I say I said that? I said that was an alternative proposed. Don't sit here and attempt to lecture me. Cats get real comfortable behind these computer screens and love talking greasy. Half the **** y'all say wouldn't be said in person. Not a peep. So don't try to patronize other people on here for props.

I already told your groupie that I'm down to meet in person. Feel free to PM me. I have the whole week off.

Internet hardbody **** man




I'm honesty trying to help you because you seems confused on how aca works, I'm not from america so it doesn't effect me if millions lose their health insurance.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Ole boy ready to climb the Maple Tower and run Osh da fade. Good thing Canada got dat universal coverage

 

[hennessy]

400 pairs of worn sneakers

i wish i had time to UNDS all my kicks..still got CDP packs DS

carry on though.

So you are holding onto the notion these are good investments still? As if a few of your pairs being DS makes a difference

Way to ignore the rest of my post. I'm sure the truth hurt. You washed fam

i can get MSRP minimum on 99% of kicks i own.

what u talking bout b...im still waiting on where im losing money.

No you can't. I know you're ignorant in politics and economics but thought you'd at least know that shoes aren't as valuable as they once were. Especially the CDP. Man Nike/JB retro whoring has made your collection obsolete. You're not losing any money. It's already been spent, already lost. Not sure what you don't understand. You spent that money as a consumer not as an investor. Just because you're broke now and have nothing to show but 400 pairs of sneakers and a jesus piece doesn't mean you have worth because you could sell those things. We all know you're too vain and nostalgic to sell them any way.

Son look, if you're still waiting on where you're losing money then you'll never understand. In reality, you already lost man. You essentially gave a jeweler an interest free loan for 10 years when you could've actually invested that money into something profitable and bought the Jesus piece sooner. You've been swindled with gold. You bought 400 pairs of kicks for an insanely marked up MSRP and judge their worth based on who knows what. You've been swindled with leather and plastic. TBH I don't believe you can even fit 400 pair of kicks in your apartment.

You don't understand the only worth you have is recouping some of what you spent on personal goods. You're not a saavy investor, your a dumb consumer. You played yourself.

So alright man, sell all of your "investments". Please go ahead and show us how you're doing it. After that all you'll have left is your company's truck and an empty room with a twin size bed. You ain't shiii without your kicks or chain, and that's all you have. Pathetic what you have to show for 30 years worth of living. If I was your mother I'd be disgraced. You are lucky you are an only child because otherwise trust me your moms would hate you.

 

[usdlaw]

i can get MSRP minimum on 99% of kicks i own.

what u talking bout b...im still waiting on where im losing money.

Time value of money, b

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Selling across state lines can work if regulate if properly at the federal level you bundle a few profitable states with lesser ones.

So companies won't be selling insurance in 50 different states, they would be selling it in 4-15 regions.

Make the healthy states help subsidized the costlier ones.

yeah but

Will that keep costs down? Wont the cost of insurance go up in the healthier states? especially with no individual mandate causing the healthier people to not buy insurance, making the insured pool sicker and pushing the costs up ever more?


also usually people who propose this want less federal involvement in healthcare, so I doubt you get strong federal regulation.

 

[sfc415]

How did Osh's post lead to death threats? He said absolutely nothing that was insulting

 

[rolaholic]

How did Osh's post lead to death threats? He said absolutely nothing that was insulting

Same dudes in their feels over "pc culture" will want to fight you over disagreements

 

[hennessy]

i can get MSRP minimum on 99% of kicks i own.

what u talking bout b...im still waiting on where im losing money.

Time value of money, b

Man if he only understood these simple concepts. I'm not even going to attempt to talk to him about compounding. If anything, sneakers are to be used as a short-term investment. He has soles separating from his investments. No one believes the worth of his collection, at least not me.

 

[gry60]

How did Osh's post lead to death threats? He said absolutely nothing that was insulting

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[sfc415]

Man if he only understood these simple concepts. I'm not even going to attempt to talk to him about compounding. If anything, sneakers are to be used as a short-term investment. He has soles separating from his investments. No one believes the worth of his collection, at least not me.

Even if his shoes are worth 90K, let's say he and his mom are paying $1K less per month than what a decent sized apartment would cost. $90K/$12K=7.5 years worth of rent in a nicer and more spacious apartment (it would actually be more since apartments were obviously cheaper 8 years ago, but you get the point). Clearly his ugly shoes, tacky chains, and "zero overhead" are more important than taking care of his own mom though

 

[AEA18]

@Reuters: BREAKING: Law enforcement to block supplies to North Dakota pipeline protesters as winter sets in

Wtf is this inhumane crap?? These dudes having a medieval siege or what?

Now let the Bundy's take over federal land and it's all good and peachy for weeks...

 

[T0INE]

How did Osh's post lead to death threats? He said absolutely nothing that was insulting

To say that things escalated quickly would be an understatement. 

Like Rusty said, good thing OKB has that universal coverage.