***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Johnny_Cakes]

Hopefully he doesn't cave, but this brinksmanship is terrible. No one wants one party to control everything, but it's leading to that since no one wants to honestly come together to find common ground.

 

[julius wrek]

Hey_

GOP against the will of the people,

**** 'em!

Julius F. Wrek

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Am I the only one who thinks Broadwell looking pretty decent

 

[essential1]

mitt romney needs to go away.

Mitt is gone but Tagg is coming though.

Tag Romney 2024 or 2028, #bleedat

Which one is Tagg?

The one who wanted to punch Obama in the face

Chances Tagg Romney gets anywhere close to anything in National Office is about .000000000001%

 

[Nike Jordan]

More people in dat bubble...

 

[essential1]

Sooo sure he would win... They just didn't follow polls

This election is about "Saving America"

Frank Luntz looking like a tool/never dressed up formally a day in his life

Only one guy getting that values are not singular

Socialist Agenda It's like people don't bother to learn anything a realize there is a socialist aspect to most of their everyday activities.. To ignore the amount of Socialism that is prevalent in the US since the inception of the US... Is WOW... And he finishes the message of Socialism as "I don't have to work."

And then them thinking Obama is a socialist.. When Corporate Profits are at a record high

They have no clear idea what socialism is

They think they will lose their freedoms.. The follow up question should have been "In Obama's first term, what freedoms have you lost that you had on 1/19/09?"

That slightly raising taxes on an income bracket maybe 1 of 20 in that room will reach requires MASSIVE and Draconian Spending cuts. They bought the propaganda hook line & sinker.

Them thinking the border isn't secure

Luntz is part of the reason these nincompoops are "Afraid of America's future"

The reporter asking if it was hard to find black/ hispanic Republicans in Virginia

They don't want to debate social issues.. BECAUSE THAT'S WHY THEY LOSE..


#DATBUBBLE

 

[essential1]

In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes
November 13, 2012|By Miriam Hill, Andrew Seidman, and John Duchneskie, Inquirer Staff Writers


It's one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch.

These are the kind of numbers that send Republicans into paroxysms of voter-fraud angst, but such results may not be so startling after all.

"We have always had these dense urban corridors that are extremely Democratic," said Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University. "It's kind of an urban fact, and you are looking at the extreme end of it in Philadelphia."

Most big cities are politically homogeneous, with 75 percent to 80 percent of voters identifying as Democrats.

Cities are not only bursting with Democrats: They are easier to organize than rural areas where people live far apart from one another, said Sasha Issenberg, author of The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns.

"One reason Democrats can maximize votes in Philadelphia is that it's very easy to knock on every door," Issenberg said.

Still, was there not one contrarian voter in those 59 divisions, where unofficial vote tallies have President Obama outscoring Romney by a combined 19,605 to 0?

The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods - clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia - fertilizes fears of fraud, despite little hard evidence.

Upon hearing the numbers, Steve Miskin, a spokesman for Republicans in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, brought up his party's voter-identification initiative - which was held off for this election - and said, "We believe we need to continue ensuring the integrity of the ballot."

The absence of a voter-ID law, however, would not stop anyone from voting for a Republican candidate.

Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia who has studied African American precincts, said he had occasionally seen 100 percent of the vote go for the Democratic candidate. Chicago and Atlanta each had precincts that registered no votes for Republican Sen. John McCain in 2008.

"I'd be surprised if there weren't a handful of precincts that didn't cast a vote for Romney," he said. But the number of zero precincts in Philadelphia deserves examination, Sabato added.

"Not a single vote for Romney or even an error? That's worth looking into," he said.

 

[david bowman]

It's funny how the party that promotes personal responsibility is always deflecting and blaming everyone else instead of looking in the mirror

 

[deuce king]

In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes
November 13, 2012|By Miriam Hill, Andrew Seidman, and John Duchneskie, Inquirer Staff Writers


It's one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch.

These are the kind of numbers that send Republicans into paroxysms of voter-fraud angst, but such results may not be so startling after all.

"We have always had these dense urban corridors that are extremely Democratic," said Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University. "It's kind of an urban fact, and you are looking at the extreme end of it in Philadelphia."

Most big cities are politically homogeneous, with 75 percent to 80 percent of voters identifying as Democrats.

Cities are not only bursting with Democrats: They are easier to organize than rural areas where people live far apart from one another, said Sasha Issenberg, author of The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns.

"One reason Democrats can maximize votes in Philadelphia is that it's very easy to knock on every door," Issenberg said.

Still, was there not one contrarian voter in those 59 divisions, where unofficial vote tallies have President Obama outscoring Romney by a combined 19,605 to 0?

The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods - clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia - fertilizes fears of fraud, despite little hard evidence.

Upon hearing the numbers, Steve Miskin, a spokesman for Republicans in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, brought up his party's voter-identification initiative - which was held off for this election - and said, "We believe we need to continue ensuring the integrity of the ballot."

The absence of a voter-ID law, however, would not stop anyone from voting for a Republican candidate.

Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia who has studied African American precincts, said he had occasionally seen 100 percent of the vote go for the Democratic candidate. Chicago and Atlanta each had precincts that registered no votes for Republican Sen. John McCain in 2008.

"I'd be surprised if there weren't a handful of precincts that didn't cast a vote for Romney," he said. But the number of zero precincts in Philadelphia deserves examination, Sabato added.

"Not a single vote for Romney or even an error? That's worth looking into," he said.

When you think of the sheer magnitude of not even being able to garner 1 vote out of 19,605 people you know you got serious problems.  Not even 1 sympathy vote given to Romney.....................i love it!!

 

[mronegative]

mitt romney needs to go away.

Mitt is gone but Tagg is coming though.

Tag Romney 2024 or 2028, #bleedat

Which one is Tagg?

The one who wanted to punch Obama in the face

I was kidding, son. They're all the same entity to me.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Chances Tagg Romney gets anywhere close to anything in National Office is about .000000000001%

Not saying he has a chance, just saying he is gonna run, and get blown out in primaries.

And the public has a pretty bad memory, in 10-14 years, most people would have forgotten what a scumbag campaign Mitt ran.

 

[sumrndmdude]

More people in dat bubble...

so many weird white people in that vid

 

[True Blues]

In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes

November 13, 2012|By Miriam Hill, Andrew Seidman, and John Duchneskie, Inquirer Staff Writers



It's one thing for a Democratic presidential candidate to dominate a Democratic city like Philadelphia, but check out this head-spinning figure: In 59 voting divisions in the city, Mitt Romney received not one vote. Zero. Zilch.


These are the kind of numbers that send Republicans into paroxysms of voter-fraud angst, but such results may not be so startling after all.


"We have always had these dense urban corridors that are extremely Democratic," said Jonathan Rodden, a political science professor at Stanford University. "It's kind of an urban fact, and you are looking at the extreme end of it in Philadelphia."


Most big cities are politically homogeneous, with 75 percent to 80 percent of voters identifying as Democrats.


Cities are not only bursting with Democrats: They are easier to organize than rural areas where people live far apart from one another, said Sasha Issenberg, author of The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns.


"One reason Democrats can maximize votes in Philadelphia is that it's very easy to knock on every door," Issenberg said.


Still, was there not one contrarian voter in those 59 divisions, where unofficial vote tallies have President Obama outscoring Romney by a combined 19,605 to 0?


The unanimous support for Obama in these Philadelphia neighborhoods - clustered in almost exclusively black sections of West and North Philadelphia - fertilizes fears of fraud, despite little hard evidence.


Upon hearing the numbers, Steve Miskin, a spokesman for Republicans in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, brought up his party's voter-identification initiative - which was held off for this election - and said, "We believe we need to continue ensuring the integrity of the ballot."


The absence of a voter-ID law, however, would not stop anyone from voting for a Republican candidate.


Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia who has studied African American precincts, said he had occasionally seen 100 percent of the vote go for the Democratic candidate. Chicago and Atlanta each had precincts that registered no votes for Republican Sen. John McCain in 2008.


"I'd be surprised if there weren't a handful of precincts that didn't cast a vote for Romney," he said. But the number of zero precincts in Philadelphia deserves examination, Sabato added.


"Not a single vote for Romney or even an error? That's worth looking into," he said.

When you think of the sheer magnitude of not even being able to garner 1 vote out of 19,605 people you know you got serious problems.  Not even 1 sympathy vote given to Romney.....................i love it!!

Voter fraud/suppression is an alternative possibility.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

It's funny how the party that promotes personal responsibility is always deflecting and blaming everyone else instead of looking in the mirror

Kinda like a stuck up ***** who won't admit her faults, but hella critical of everybody else.

 

[david bowman]

Voter fraud/suppression is an alternative possibility.

why would you be THAT obvious if you were going to rig something though? 

 

[big j 33]

If there was indeed fraud, shouldn't we expect people to come forward from these divisions who claim they voted for Romney? While it wouldn't be proof of fraud (since they could just be lying), it would at least give some credibility to fraud allegations if we had people coming forward.

 

[True Blues]

Voter fraud/suppression is an alternative possibility.

why would you be THAT obvious if you were going to rig something though? 

Maybe.

Wednesday, 16 October, 2002, 11:41 GMT 12:41 UK
Saddam 'wins 100% of vote'

Voting day brought many public displays of patriotism
Iraqi officials say President Saddam Hussein has won 100% backing in a referendum on whether he should rule for another seven years.
There were 11,445,638 eligible voters - and every one of them voted for the president, according to Izzat Ibrahim, Vice-Chairman of Iraq's Revolutionary Command Council.

The government insists the count was fair and accurate.

Saddam Hussein - who has ruled Iraq since 1979 - was the only candidate.

Voters had been urged to show their support for the Iraqi leader in defiance of the demands for military action against him from the US and Britain.

During polling, many voters trampled American flags and some signed their ballot-papers in their own blood in a display of loyalty to their leader.

Nevertheless, I'm inclined to believe that a combination of OFA's voter mobilization strategy, Romney's lack of appeal to urban voters and human error was responsible for Obama carrying 100% of the vote in the five Philadelphia districts above.

 

[deuce king]

Voter fraud/suppression is an alternative possibility.

Please.  Both Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan lost their home state or in Mitt Romney's case home STATES to President Obama.  Not only that but Paul Ryan even lost his home district to President Obama just to be more specific on the matter.  How to explain losing your own home state??  If your not loved in your home state, your not loved anywhere. 

 

[david bowman]

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said Thursday there isn't much point in raising tax rates on the wealthy, because they also have the money to hire people who will help them get out of paying taxes.

"The billionaires and millionaires that are going to be impacted by higher rates, they can afford to hire the best lawyers, lobbyists and accountants in America to figure out how not to pay those higher rates," Rubio told National Journal’s Major Garrett at The Atlantic Washington Ideas Forum. "The people that are going to get stuck by that bill are the small businesses, the partnerships, the S corporations, that cannot hire the lawyers to get them out of it."

President Barack Obama has called for an end to the Bush-era tax cuts for those in higher income brackets. Republicans, meanwhile, say an extension of those tax cuts must be a part of a deal to avoid hitting the so-called "fiscal cliff," when the government will reach its deficit limit and could begin defaulting on its debts. Tax cuts will expire at the end of the year unless Congress votes to extend them.

Rubio said he doesn't have a "religious, spiritual objection," to tax increases, but that he still opposes them for economic reasons. He said the president's proposal would raise only $80 billion per year in new revenue, 7.7 percent of the national deficit -- not enough to make a significant dent in the debt, he argued.

"The question becomes what problem are you solving and are you willing -- are you prepared -- to wipe out some small businesses in exchange for seven and a half percent of deficit reduction potentially?" he said. "I think that's a bad trade off."

As for the fiscal cliff, Rubio said an agreement must be made, likely without broader entitlement reform because there is simply not enough time.

"The sequester was a dumb idea when they came up with it and it's a dumber idea today," he said. "And it was bipartisan dumb. So the people want bipartisanship, there you have it."



So basically we are powerless against the "job creators" and are too inept to fix the tax codes? Okay buddy.

I guess they really are doubling down and didn't learn a thing.

 

[rillo561]

I really hope Obama doesn't back down or cave to the GOP. Bush era tax cuts need to end.

 

[hzt50bgh]

don't know how to embed but found this so true on why Willard lost

 

[Betonblck]

If there was indeed fraud, shouldn't we expect people to come forward from these divisions who claim they voted for Romney? While it wouldn't be proof of fraud (since they could just be lying), it would at least give some credibility to fraud allegations if we had people coming forward.

The voter fraud story is too funny. Dudes are upset that there weren't any brothers from North or West Philly voting for Romney. They are sitting around saying, "there has to be some Uncle Tom's out there in Philly or someone that pressed the wrong button and voted for Romney by accident."

 

[Betonblck]

GOP Maine Chairman, "Dozens of black people showed up that no one had seen before"

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

The voter fraud story is too funny. Dudes are upset that there weren't any brothers from North or West Philly voting for Romney. They are sitting around saying, "there has to be some Uncle Tom's out there in Philly or someone that pressed the wrong button and voted for Romney by accident."

Exactly.

What's even funnier is there was a video showing how the machine changed Obama votes to Romney, not sure what district in Philly though.

Republicans just can't take their L in stride and keep it moving. This **** is getting downright childish at this point.

 

[i lax bro]

Can you guys tell me why taxing 250k+ is worth the 31% tax someone will have to pay? I'll tell you that a family on 250k in the city isn't too much to live on considering 6-8% goes to state taxes also... If it was a million plus sure, but 250k isn't alot of money...



http://www.cbsnews.com/election-results-2012/exit.shtml?state=US&race=P&jurisdiction=0&party=G Just to show that, the idea passed earlier that poorer people living off welfare were repubican was false