***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[freeze]

So much for government transparency. I love being in the dark on, life. Trumpet making the Gov't great again.

 

[IATT]

The media needs to stop paying attention to this numbers game by Trump and focus on the environmental crap and useless border wall that he wants at the expense of taxpayer money :x

See the thing is, you/they/we gotta make people feel incredibly stupid for supporting his mess..

Some things are simple.. grasping some of the other stuff might be asking a lil much

That will come with time.. when it's blatantly in their face.. like when they are suffering for their decisions and don't have the black guy to hate/blame

Sure that will last for the first year, maybe 2.. cause trump will of course say the bad is a result of obama's bad policies and all that.. but then year 2 and 3 will come

 

[EddieDoyers]

The media needs to stop paying attention to this numbers game by Trump and focus on the environmental crap and useless border wall that he wants at the expense of taxpayer money :x

See the thing is, you/they/we gotta make people feel incredibly stupid for supporting his mess..

Some things are simple.. grasping some of the other stuff might be asking a lil much

That will come with time.. when it's blatantly in their face.. like when they are suffering for their decisions and don't have the black guy to hate/blame

Sure that will last for the first year, maybe 2.. cause trump will of course say the bad is a result of obama's bad policies and all that.. but then year 2 and 3 will come

by that time we might not even have a media that has the balls to expose the corruption in this oligarchy

 

[everysingletime]

I'm scared he'll go after the media next, tbh

 

[IATT]

The media needs to stop paying attention to this numbers game by Trump and focus on the environmental crap and useless border wall that he wants at the expense of taxpayer money :x

See the thing is, you/they/we gotta make people feel incredibly stupid for supporting his mess..

Some things are simple.. grasping some of the other stuff might be asking a lil much

That will come with time.. when it's blatantly in their face.. like when they are suffering for their decisions and don't have the black guy to hate/blame

Sure that will last for the first year, maybe 2.. cause trump will of course say the bad is a result of obama's bad policies and all that.. but then year 2 and 3 will come

by that time we might not even have a media that has the balls to expose the corruption in this oligarchy

Well we might get john Stewart back

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

If Chicago doesn't fix the horrible "carnage" going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings (up 24% from 2016), I will send in the Feds!

I like how he puts it like a threat, like he thinks people doing the shootings will be like "Okay, I'll stop now."

 

[EddieDoyers]

The media needs to stop paying attention to this numbers game by Trump and focus on the environmental crap and useless border wall that he wants at the expense of taxpayer money :x

See the thing is, you/they/we gotta make people feel incredibly stupid for supporting his mess..

Some things are simple.. grasping some of the other stuff might be asking a lil much

That will come with time.. when it's blatantly in their face.. like when they are suffering for their decisions and don't have the black guy to hate/blame

Sure that will last for the first year, maybe 2.. cause trump will of course say the bad is a result of obama's bad policies and all that.. but then year 2 and 3 will come

by that time we might not even have a media that has the balls to expose the corruption in this oligarchy

Well we might get john Stewart back

We need Dave Chappelle back too

 

[freeze]

The media needs to stop paying attention to this numbers game by Trump and focus on the environmental crap and useless border wall that he wants at the expense of taxpayer money :x

See the thing is, you/they/we gotta make people feel incredibly stupid for supporting his mess..

Some things are simple.. grasping some of the other stuff might be asking a lil much

That will come with time.. when it's blatantly in their face.. like when they are suffering for their decisions and don't have the black guy to hate/blame

Sure that will last for the first year, maybe 2.. cause trump will of course say the bad is a result of obama's bad policies and all that.. but then year 2 and 3 will come

by that time we might not even have a media that has the balls to expose the corruption in this oligarchy

Well we might get john Stewart back

y u no like Trevor Noah

 

[RIP sleazyy]

I'm scared he'll go after the media next, tbh

Underground media and more leaks soon come.

 

[Mr.Guy]

I hate to say it but it's almost like a wake up every day looking forward to hear more about Trump's new idea or *******. It's not funny, but it keeps me from going crazy.

 

[Mr.Guy]

Trump better be careful, one of those persons from one of the intelligence agencies gonna slip something in his food that makes him die from a rare form of cancer, if he doesn't get his act right.

 

[AZwildcats]

So much for government transparency. I love being in the dark on, life. Trumpet making the Gov't great again.

For real, only Republicans think less facts is a good thing. Their voters are willfully stupid

 

[IATT]

y u no like Trevor Noah

Ain't the same.. I need john and Colbert back


Especially now

 

[ninjahood]

The media needs to stop paying attention to this numbers game by Trump and focus on the environmental crap and useless border wall that he wants at the expense of taxpayer money :x

See the thing is, you/they/we gotta make people feel incredibly stupid for supporting his mess..

all this does is further forge Trump's support, as seen during da election cycle.

So far, they're getting everything they want.

expedited pipelines and slashing of over regulatory apparatuses such as da EPA.

Supreme Court pick already coming next week.

if Dems block da GOP controlled Senate is gonna blow up da 60 vote threshold (cuz Harry Reid already set da precedent)

all in all? everything is going according to plan.

 

[noskey]

The media needs to stop paying attention to this numbers game by Trump and focus on the environmental crap and useless border wall that he wants at the expense of taxpayer money :x

See the thing is, you/they/we gotta make people feel incredibly stupid for supporting his mess..

all this does is further forge Trump's support, as seen during da election cycle.

So far, they're getting everything they want.

expedited pipelines and slashing of over regulatory apparatuses such as da EPA.

Supreme Court pick already coming next week.

if Dems block da GOP controlled Senate is gonna blow up da 60 vote threshold (cuz Harry Reid already set da precedent)

all in all? everything is going according to plan.

How long you gonna act like you're in on the con? You gonna give it up if your precious Hemi doesn't get cheap enough for you to finally buy?

 

[IATT]

 

[AZwildcats]

So it makes them double down on the stupidity, which was gonna happen anyway. 

 

[rexanglorum]

all this does is further forge Trump's support, as seen during da election cycle.

So far, they're getting everything they want.

expedited pipelines and slashing of over regulatory apparatuses such as da EPA.

Supreme Court pick already coming next week.

if Dems block da GOP controlled Senate is gonna blow up da 60 vote threshold (cuz Harry Reid already set da precedent)

all in all? everything is going according to plan.

This is so short sighted on the part of conservatives. The 60 vote threshold for Supreme Court picks and for legislation is what frequently thwarts progressives.

Unless we have a military coup or another complete black swam type event, progressives will eventually hold the House, the White House and have 51, 52 seats in the Senate and we will be able to enact a progressive agenda and not be blocked by coalitions of Republicans and 'moderate" Democrats.

 

[boris]

all this does is further forge Trump's support, as seen during da election cycle.

So far, they're getting everything they want.

expedited pipelines and slashing of over regulatory apparatuses such as da EPA.

Supreme Court pick already coming next week.

if Dems block da GOP controlled Senate is gonna blow up da 60 vote threshold (cuz Harry Reid already set da precedent)

all in all? everything is going according to plan.

Except for half the country, and much of the world, not taking Trump seriously as POTUS. That, I think, is not going to plan.

 

[EddieDoyers]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/preside...ethics-violations/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17&yptr=yahoo

President Trump sued by watchdog over alleged constitutional business ethics violations

NEW YORK – On his first Monday in office, a lawsuit was filed against President Donald Trump by the top ethics lawyers for the last two presidents, claiming Mr. Trump is already engaging in severe constitutional ethics violations. It is likely to be the first in a string of legal actions by liberal organizations seeking to do anything they can to combat the agenda of a fully Republican-controlled federal government, as the courts will be one of their few avenues of recourse.

The ethics lawyers, Norman Eisen, who advised Barack Obama, and Richard Painter, who worked under George W. Bush, are acting as part of the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW.)

“The two have been pushing Trump to divest from his business to avoid what they believe are unprecedented conflicts that will violate the Constitution,” CREW said in a press release announcing their lawsuit, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington v. Donald J. Trump, filed in federal court in New York.

They say Mr. Trump, as a sitting president, is “violating the Constitution” with his various business holdings, because he could personally profit from foreign governments, which essentially opens the door to easy bribery and corruption.

Mr. Trump’s various business holdings were a concern during his campaign, but he and his surrogates claim to this day that there is no problem, and they have said Mr. Trump is going above and beyond what is required of him.

CBS News’ Paula Reid reports the lawsuit by CREW has a high legal hurdle to clear to even be heard by a judge. In order to to successfully bring the lawsuit, they need to prove their group has been injured. The lawsuit argues the liberal-funded organization has been injured by diverting all of its resources to the issue of Mr. Trump’s alleged ethics violations.

Regardless of the claims of both sides, what is clear is that there has never been questions like this for a sitting president previously.

“There are a lot of issues that have to be litigated for the first time,” CREW Executive Director Noah Bookbinder said earlier, according to the Associated Press.

The lawsuit is focusing on the foreign emoluments clause of the Constitution, which prohibits presidents from receiving anything of value from foreign governments, including foreign government-owned businesses, without the approval of Congress.

It is estimated the Trump Organization has 500 stakes in businesses in 20 countries.

Despite an refusal to this point to follow a tradition since President Nixon to release his tax returns, the president and his team insist everything is fine. One of the things CREW said they will seek through their lawsuit is the release of those tax returns.

At his first press conference after the election, Mr. Trump and one of his lawyers addressed the issue of his business conflicts.

“I could actually run my business ... and run government at the same time,” he said at the time. “I don’t like the way that looks but I’d be able to if I wanted to.”

Trump lawyer Sheri Dillon said Mr. Trump’s business holdings and investments would be put in a trust before Inauguration Day, and that his two adult sons would run the company, which would hire an ethics compliance officer. It’s unclear if that ever happened.

Additionally, Dillion claimed “no new foreign deals” would be made during his presidency, and that Mr. Trump directed that all profits from foreign government payments made to his hotels will be donated to the U.S. Treasury. The legal mechanisms for making that happen, and whether or not that move itself is legal, are also unclear.

The CREW organization said in its lawsuit these moves are far from sufficient.

CREW leader Bookbinder, himself a former federal corruption prosecutor, said: “We always encourage officials to do the right thing. We did not want to get to this point. It was our hope that President Trump would take the necessary steps to avoid violating the Constitution before he took office. He did not. His constitutional violations are immediate and serious, so we were forced to take legal action.”

 

[Nike Jordan]

overrated meryl streep got her 20th Oscar nomination today.

suck on that, drumpf.

She's gonna win another Oscar and cut another epic promo on The Bigot[emoji]8482[/emoji]

It's almost guaranteed now.

 

[ninjahood]

The media needs to stop paying attention to this numbers game by Trump and focus on the environmental crap and useless border wall that he wants at the expense of taxpayer money :x

See the thing is, you/they/we gotta make people feel incredibly stupid for supporting his mess..

all this does is further forge Trump's support, as seen during da election cycle.

So far, they're getting everything they want.

expedited pipelines and slashing of over regulatory apparatuses such as da EPA.

Supreme Court pick already coming next week.

if Dems block da GOP controlled Senate is gonna blow up da 60 vote threshold (cuz Harry Reid already set da precedent)

all in all? everything is going according to plan.

How long you gonna act like you're in on the con? You gonna give it up if your precious Hemi doesn't get cheap enough for you to finally buy?

it's not about "hemi cheap enough" it's about regulatory agencies like da EPA passing a drum beat of crushing mandates that would've ensured da cost of making "da hemi" oppressive when u factor in pie in da sky abitrary contrived MPG fuel mandates that fine Car Brands if they don't make da cars that suit da federal government, irrespective and devoid of actual consumer tastes and demand.

da Hemi is merely one of example of Government over reach people been hankering to pull back on. Trump said he's slashing regulations by 75% of more...those Union leaders been worshipping da ground Trump walk on all day they know them jobs is coming thru.

 

[cucumbercool]

that boy on a damn roll

 

[IATT]

I'm impressed y'all answering him.. that ain't the answer.. eventually he'll have to deal with shht

That's on him



Anyhow:

 

[everysingletime]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/preside...ethics-violations/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17&yptr=yahoo

President Trump sued by watchdog over alleged constitutional business ethics violations

NEW YORK – On his first Monday in office, a lawsuit was filed against President Donald Trump by the top ethics lawyers for the last two presidents, claiming Mr. Trump is already engaging in severe constitutional ethics violations. It is likely to be the first in a string of legal actions by liberal organizations seeking to do anything they can to combat the agenda of a fully Republican-controlled federal government, as the courts will be one of their few avenues of recourse.

The ethics lawyers, Norman Eisen, who advised Barack Obama, and Richard Painter, who worked under George W. Bush, are acting as part of the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW.)

“The two have been pushing Trump to divest from his business to avoid what they believe are unprecedented conflicts that will violate the Constitution,” CREW said in a press release announcing their lawsuit, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington v. Donald J. Trump, filed in federal court in New York.

They say Mr. Trump, as a sitting president, is “violating the Constitution” with his various business holdings, because he could personally profit from foreign governments, which essentially opens the door to easy bribery and corruption.

Mr. Trump’s various business holdings were a concern during his campaign, but he and his surrogates claim to this day that there is no problem, and they have said Mr. Trump is going above and beyond what is required of him.

CBS News’ Paula Reid reports the lawsuit by CREW has a high legal hurdle to clear to even be heard by a judge. In order to to successfully bring the lawsuit, they need to prove their group has been injured. The lawsuit argues the liberal-funded organization has been injured by diverting all of its resources to the issue of Mr. Trump’s alleged ethics violations.

Regardless of the claims of both sides, what is clear is that there has never been questions like this for a sitting president previously.

“There are a lot of issues that have to be litigated for the first time,” CREW Executive Director Noah Bookbinder said earlier, according to the Associated Press.

The lawsuit is focusing on the foreign emoluments clause of the Constitution, which prohibits presidents from receiving anything of value from foreign governments, including foreign government-owned businesses, without the approval of Congress.

It is estimated the Trump Organization has 500 stakes in businesses in 20 countries.

Despite an refusal to this point to follow a tradition since President Nixon to release his tax returns, the president and his team insist everything is fine. One of the things CREW said they will seek through their lawsuit is the release of those tax returns.

At his first press conference after the election, Mr. Trump and one of his lawyers addressed the issue of his business conflicts.

“I could actually run my business ... and run government at the same time,” he said at the time. “I don’t like the way that looks but I’d be able to if I wanted to.”

Trump lawyer Sheri Dillon said Mr. Trump’s business holdings and investments would be put in a trust before Inauguration Day, and that his two adult sons would run the company, which would hire an ethics compliance officer. It’s unclear if that ever happened.

Additionally, Dillion claimed “no new foreign deals” would be made during his presidency, and that Mr. Trump directed that all profits from foreign government payments made to his hotels will be donated to the U.S. Treasury. The legal mechanisms for making that happen, and whether or not that move itself is legal, are also unclear.

The CREW organization said in its lawsuit these moves are far from sufficient.

CREW leader Bookbinder, himself a former federal corruption prosecutor, said: “We always encourage officials to do the right thing. We did not want to get to this point. It was our hope that President Trump would take the necessary steps to avoid violating the Constitution before he took office. He did not. His constitutional violations are immediate and serious, so we were forced to take legal action.”

Nice change of pace to hear some positive - ish news