***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[EddieDoyers]

handullz Arnold initially was the typical Republican governor and that made him more and more unpopular. Eventually he became more center as the years progressed and even hired a Democrat as a chief of staff. So yeah he actually relied upon many people and didn't try to act like the smartest guy in the room.

If Arnold was born a US citizen, he probably would have won the 2016 election imo. He sounds far more likeable and has the "celebrity vibe" at the same time.

 

[jjs07]

Allegra Kirkland‏@allegrakirkland 47m47 minutes ago


Fox is reporting that DHS Secretary Kelly said parts of Trump's border wall will be transparent. http://bit.ly/2km02lC pic.twitter.com/lq6upkknIt

So, an electric fence? Good plan aka...we won't get the funds/backing necessary to build what was promised in the campaign.

 

[jus3]

Nancy Pelosi going in on Bannon lol

 

[RustyShackleford]

handullz Arnold initially was the typical Republican governor and that made him more and more unpopular. Eventually he became more center as the years progressed and even hired a Democrat as a chief of staff. So yeah he actually relied upon many people and didn't try to act like the smartest guy in the room.

If Arnold was born a US citizen, he probably would have won the 2016 election imo. He sounds far more likeable and has the "celebrity vibe" at the same time.

What are you basing this on?

 

[handullz]

They arrive at that conclusion by assuming that government and businesses have the same goals and work the same way, which is false.

That's the problem. The BS we're seeing from Trump and his people is THE result of running government like a business

To play the role of a faux conservative, why not run government like a business?

I agree with you, but I feel it's good to flesh out the opinions of the other side to get a better understanding

 

[EddieDoyers]

From everything I have read, Schwarzenegger failed as a governor. He had a few good ideas, but was still terrible.

True
The only thing I can't knock about Arnold is that he was an environmentalist

 

[RustyShackleford]

So how long until House Democrats start pushing impeachment?

If the Dems take back the House in 2018 by a little miracle, then best believe Pelosi gonna mess wit Trump

 

[handullz]

What are you basing this on?

He states it right after.

I actually agree. Trump insulted his way to the top.

How is he gonna insult the ******* Terminator?

 

[Mark Antony]

Matthew McConaughey says THE country needs to "embrace" President Trump 
https://t.co/vSe42UEiiC

When you're rich, out of touch and uninformed. I'm sure he's well meaning, but he's wrong. Another one that's laissez-faire until something personal happens to them.

 

[EddieDoyers]

handullz Arnold initially was the typical Republican governor and that made him more and more unpopular. Eventually he became more center as the years progressed and even hired a Democrat as a chief of staff. So yeah he actually relied upon many people and didn't try to act like the smartest guy in the room.

If Arnold was born a US citizen, he probably would have won the 2016 election imo. He sounds far more likeable and has the "celebrity vibe" at the same time.

What are you basing this on?

He's a cool guy.
Let's be honest, the Republican race was more of just a popularity contest, and Trump won that because he dished out the most insults. And as evidenced by the election, many Americans in the swing states that voted for Trump was just because they "hate liberals" or thought Hillary was untrustworthy.

 

[RustyShackleford]

What are you basing this on?

He states it right after.

I actually agree. Trump insulted his way to the top.

How is he gonna insult the ******* Terminator?

I meant solid analytical reasons

 

[noskey]

So how long until House Democrats start pushing impeachment?

If the Dems take back the House in 2018 by a little miracle, then best believe Pelosi gonna mess wit Trump

Cant push it through even if/when it comes out that Trump has business ties/financial interest in Russia and has directly profited from his exercising of power?

 

[AEA18]

They arrive at that conclusion by assuming that government and businesses have the same goals and work the same way, which is false.

That's the problem. The BS we're seeing from Trump and his people is THE result of running government like a business

To play the role of a faux conservative, why not run government like a business?

I agree with you, but I feel it's good to flesh out the opinions of the other side to get a better understanding

Government= Serve the people (At least they're supposed to)

Business= Line your own/business partners pockets

Unless the orange clown starts handing out stock options then the people won't benefit.

Trickle-down economics do not work.

 

[Mark Antony]

handullz Arnold initially was the typical Republican governor and that made him more and more unpopular. Eventually he became more center as the years progressed and even hired a Democrat as a chief of staff. So yeah he actually relied upon many people and didn't try to act like the smartest guy in the room.

If Arnold was born a US citizen, he probably would have won the 2016 election imo. He sounds far more likeable and has the "celebrity vibe" at the same time.

What are you basing this on?

He's a cool guy.
Let's be honest, the Republican race was more of just a popularity contest, and Trump won that because he dished out the most insults. And as evidenced by the election, many Americans in the swing states that voted for Trump was just because they "hate liberals".

Folks out here really voted on the ability to insult liberals than his obvious policies he was letting everyone know he was going to implement. Then when it comes to pass and some of the Trump supporters are negatively affected by the policies they ignored in light of rhetoric some of you want us to be empathetic? **** no. Now THAT is ultra-liberalism, go sit down somewhere with that.

 

[IATT]

Wonder which companies

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/politics/treasury-sanctions-russian-intelligence-agency/index.html

 

[rillo561]

Cant push it through even if/when it comes out that Trump has business ties/financial interest in Russia and has directly profited from his exercising of power?

Republicans have shown they are not going against their party. They control everything now, I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

[RustyShackleford]

handullz Arnold initially was the typical Republican governor and that made him more and more unpopular. Eventually he became more center as the years progressed and even hired a Democrat as a chief of staff. So yeah he actually relied upon many people and didn't try to act like the smartest guy in the room.

If Arnold was born a US citizen, he probably would have won the 2016 election imo. He sounds far more likeable and has the "celebrity vibe" at the same time.

What are you basing this on?

He's a cool guy.
Let's be honest, the Republican race was more of just a popularity contest, and Trump won that because he dished out the most insults. And as evidenced by the election, many Americans in the swing states that voted for Trump was just because they "hate liberals".

Famb nah. Trump was a a special case, the GOP does not nominate moderates. Trump started out right wing and sprinted more right to appease GOP primary voters. Arnold's record in Cali would have worked against him, and his person background would make him dead in the water with many in the GOP base (Mormons, evangelicals, etc). And Arnold is not overtly bigoted, so he is not gonna be able to catch a Trump type wave.

Not only that, Trump won the election by a razor thin margin in 3 states, party because of high turnout out of rural white. Arnold is not gonna be their sws champion like Trump

 

[EddieDoyers]

handullz Arnold initially was the typical Republican governor and that made him more and more unpopular. Eventually he became more center as the years progressed and even hired a Democrat as a chief of staff. So yeah he actually relied upon many people and didn't try to act like the smartest guy in the room.

If Arnold was born a US citizen, he probably would have won the 2016 election imo. He sounds far more likeable and has the "celebrity vibe" at the same time.

What are you basing this on?

He's a cool guy.
Let's be honest, the Republican race was more of just a popularity contest, and Trump won that because he dished out the most insults. And as evidenced by the election, many Americans in the swing states that voted for Trump was just because they "hate liberals".

Folks out here really voted on the ability to insult liberals than his obvious policies he was letting everyone know he was going to implement. Then when it comes to pass and some of the Trump supporters are negatively affected by the policies they ignored in light of rhetoric some of you want us to be empathetic? **** no. Now THAT is ultra-liberalism, go sit down somewhere with that.

I agree. Some people have gone ideology over the constitution and country. It's sad really.

 

[Mark Antony]

Wonder which companies

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/02/politics/treasury-sanctions-russian-intelligence-agency/index.html

One thing i'll forever admire CNN.com for is removing the comments section.

 

[handullz]

Government= Serve the people (At least they're supposed to)

Business= Line your own/business partners pockets

Unless the orange clown starts handing out stock options then the people won't benefit.

Trickle-down economics do not work.

But if you're a generally hostile conservative that has

1. Remember when all you had to do was be white to succeed
2. Saw America zoom past you in terms of technology
3. Live in an echo chamber
4. Harbor resentment to the "coastal elite" aka liberal country

Then you have to blame someone. And the government is easy. Tack on a black face in Obeezy and boom, people will say "why not run it like a biz because I am in the group that will benefit"?

 

[rillo561]

It's kinda a guilty pleasure of mine is to read the comment section. Til I get triggered.

 

[AEA18]

Government= Serve the people (At least they're supposed to)

Business= Line your own/business partners pockets

Unless the orange clown starts handing out stock options then the people won't benefit.

Trickle-down economics do not work.

But if you're a generally hostile conservative that has

1. Remember when all you had to do was be white to succeed
2. Saw America zoom past you in terms of technology
3. Live in an echo chamber
4. Harbor resentment to the "coastal elite" aka liberal country

Then you have to blame someone. And the government is easy. Tack on a black face in Obeezy and boom, people will say "why not run it like a biz because I am in the group that will benefit"?

That's why I don't waste my time with conservatives SWS.

They put white supremacy above all else even their own livelihood and health.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I loved reading conservative comments after some big win for Liberals.

Stromfront after Obeezy's election wins was lulz

 

[EddieDoyers]

handullz Arnold initially was the typical Republican governor and that made him more and more unpopular. Eventually he became more center as the years progressed and even hired a Democrat as a chief of staff. So yeah he actually relied upon many people and didn't try to act like the smartest guy in the room.

If Arnold was born a US citizen, he probably would have won the 2016 election imo. He sounds far more likeable and has the "celebrity vibe" at the same time.

What are you basing this on?

He's a cool guy.
Let's be honest, the Republican race was more of just a popularity contest, and Trump won that because he dished out the most insults. And as evidenced by the election, many Americans in the swing states that voted for Trump was just because they "hate liberals".

Famb nah. Trump was a a special case, the GOP does not nominate moderates. Trump started out right wing and sprinted more right to appease GOP primary voters. His record in Cali would work against him and his person background would make him dead in the water with many in the GOP base (Mormons, evangelicals, etc). And Arnold is not overtly bigoted, so he is not gonna be able to catch a Trump type wave.

Not only that, Trump won the election by a razor thin margin in 3 states, party because of high turnout out of rural white. Arnold is not gonna be their sws champion like Trump

Arnold tried denying illegal immigrants driver licenses in our state throughout his whole governorship. He def could have ran on the SWS rhetoric for a bit.

And Trump has been exposed as a fake Christian too, yet Republicans still voted for him.

But I can see your point.

 

[Majorbread]

I never got the 'Trump should run the country like a business' ideology. The country can't file for bankruptcy or swap debt for useless shares so not sure what tactics he would turn to