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Do you have something against RNs with associate degrees? First you said they were just nursing aids, not even real nurses...now you're saying they're just 'basic nurses.' Whatever that means..


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Enh, my wife is a RN w/ an Associates and she's been the charge nurse in the ICU, NICU and also does post-op for a plastic surgeon. And she works the operating room.


Associates def doesn't equal basic nurse. :lol:


Oh and my mom was a charge nurse on a NICU floor for a decade plus w/ a 2-yr degree.
I never said it was automatic, other factors apply. I just said in general they would choose a BS-RN for certain positions over an associates. Doesn't mean there aren't associate nurses in the ICU.

Actually that isn't what you said, but it's all good man. :lol:

I know you're on your doctor grind. Gotta hone that condescending tone early. :lol:
 
Enh, my wife is a RN w/ an Associates and she's been the charge nurse in the ICU, NICU and also does post-op for a plastic surgeon. And she works the operating room.

Associates def doesn't equal basic nurse. :lol:

Oh and my mom was a charge nurse on a NICU floor for a decade plus w/ a 2-yr degree.

We talking present day bro, I know therapist that practice to this day bein OJTs that got grandfathered in, now therapists must be registered to get a job.

How long has your wife been a nurse? Like I said earlier the field is evolving and as more nurses get on the horse, the more hospitals will require from them...or like Anton said another factor is the town you work in.


Big metro hospitals are not gonna hire fresh 2 year RNs to run charge of their ICU....sorry
 
I never said it was automatic, other factors apply. I just said in general they would choose a BS-RN for certain positions over an associates. Doesn't mean there aren't associate nurses in the ICU.

Yeah I don't understand why dudes are even giving ninja the notion that he's somehow right at all :rofl:
 
I mean when you really think about it, excluding RNs that have been such for some time now, if you draw the line at a 2 year degree just to take your registry, your own colleagues won't respect you, so yes if RIGHT NOW that's where you draw the line, you are a pretty basic RN...is like comparing da R/T to da Hemi....maybe NH will understand it now, technically both are cars....nah mean?
 
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RNs that come out of school as an RN with an associate degree or with a BSN degree start out on the same footing. They have the same nursing skills. If they get hired for the same job you won't notice any difference in the work. The difference is strictly political ej. Not as likely to get hired, not as likely to get promoted, less pay, etc.
 
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What type of nurse are those hood chicks who are always in scrubs and make like $10? Does that require a degree?
 
Yup, experience goes a long way, like I said, there are CNAs fresh off a 2 year school with just their associates who had been working my ER for the past 7 years that got a job with their 2 year degree and have the same responsibilities as the rest, that's because they have clinical experience...so exceptions are made, not to mention the doctors and other nurses know them....but to say anyone can wake up tomorrow, sign up to a 2 year nursing school graduate me be charge the next day at the local hospital is a LIE....lol...chances are they won't even get a job nowadays till they get their BSN...is not that hard, look for nursing listings at your hospitals, the requirement is there
 
RNs that come out of school as an RN with an associate degree or with a BSN degree start out on the same footing. They have the same nursing skills. If they get hired for the same job you won't notice any difference in the work. The difference is strictly political ej. Not as likely to get hired, not as likely to get promoted, less pay, etc.


That's like saying a PA who went to school for 2 years and an MD who went to school for 4 years + residency have the same skills. That's just flat out wrong.

Lol. There's literally no difference in the skills. RNs with associate degrees and bachelor degrees can literally get hired for the exact same jobs that have nothing to do with managerial experience.
 
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That's like saying a PA who went to school for 2 years and an MD who went to school for 4 years + residency have the same skills. That's just flat out wrong.
Physician's assistants have master degrees 

i think you are talking about medical assistants - those are 2 year programs
What are the qualifications for a physician assistant?

Most educational programs are graduate programs leading to the award of master'sdegrees  in either Physician Assistant  Studies (MPAS), Health Science (MHS), or Medical Science (MMSc), and require a bachelor's degree  and GRE or MCAT scores for entry.
 
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Enh....my wife has never had an issue b/c of her degree. Her experience seems to stand out more, I guess. Guess she's one of the better basic nurses that can hang with the big dog BSN folk. :lol:
 
I'm a nurse. Bachelor's degree. If you were wondering. You're comparing apples and oranges.

A PA and an MD literally can't get hired for the same job. One is a doctor. The other is a doctor's assistant.

But an RN, whether they have an associate degree or a bachelor's, is still a nurse.
 
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RNs that come out of school as an RN with an associate degree or with a BSN degree start out on the same footing. They have the same nursing skills. If they get hired for the same job you won't notice any difference in the work. The difference is strictly political ej. Not as likely to get hired, not as likely to get promoted, less pay, etc.

Clinically they might be on the same level, just as inexperienced practicing real world medicine, but on a book smart and how much they've studied...4 years of school >> 2 years man..
 
Tiny hands really couldn't give two ***** about Tiffany :rofl:
Watch that gif again brah. He went in for the kiss and Tiff hit him with the hard head fake. That's why he don't **** with her, she ain't letting her grandpa-aged father near the goods.
 
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