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I think the problem with healthcare in US is being looked at all wrong
In the US, the cost of most healthcare services is usually many many times more expensive than comparable countries.
In countries with the best national healthcare systems such as France, Italy, etc. the costs of hospitalizations, surgeries, check ups, and other treatments cost a fraction of what they do in the US, and they are nearly equivalent in quality of service. Prescription medicines are highly subsidized by the govt, over 70-80% of all medical bills automatically covered by govt, etc.
Medicaid/Medicare covers the bare minimum, and every healthcare plan thats been proposed recently has the same fundamental flaw, not addressing the issue of cost of services.
Whats crazy is that per person, the USA spends far more than any other country in the world, even taking into account the extra costs of providing coverage of this large land mass, we still pay a lot more than we should.
We need to put pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, treatment centers, and other facilities in check with tight restrictions/caps on what can be charged
Any healthcare act proposed in the USA will fail, if it doesn't address this issue as one of its priorities
 
*flame suit*

How can we point and laugh at repubs who are getting shafted by what Trump actually does...

But then laugh at the Trump camp for stuff the outlandish stuff he promised and didn't / won't get done?

Couldn't one argue that people were picking and choosing what they thought was "outlandish" and just happened to pick the wrong side of things...?
 
sheistbugz said:
I think the problem with healthcare in US is being looked at all wrong
In the US, the cost of most healthcare services is usually many many times more expensive than comparable countries.
In countries with the best national healthcare systems such as France, Italy, etc. the costs of hospitalizations, surgeries, check ups, and other treatments cost a fraction of what they do in the US, and they are nearly equivalent in quality of service. Prescription medicines are highly subsidized by the govt, over 70-80% of all medical bills automatically covered by govt, etc.
Medicaid/Medicare covers the bare minimum, and every healthcare plan thats been proposed recently has the same fundamental flaw, not addressing the issue of cost of services.
Whats crazy is that per person, the USA spends far more than any other country in the world, even taking into account the extra costs of providing coverage of this large land mass, we still pay a lot more than we should.
We need to put pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, treatment centers, and other facilities in check with tight restrictions/caps on what can be charged
Any healthcare act proposed in the USA will fail, if it doesn't address this issue as one of its priorities
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It is two levels. In American currently we are trying to reform the health insurance industry, not the healthcare industry.

Also, the healthcare industry is so huge, that trying to reckless taming it through just price controls could backfire hard. Actually more competition in the healthcare industry would be a good thing.
 
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RustyShackleford said:
sheistbugz said:
I think the problem with healthcare in US is being looked at all wrong
In the US, the cost of most healthcare services is usually many many times more expensive than comparable countries.
In countries with the best national healthcare systems such as France, Italy, etc. the costs of hospitalizations, surgeries, check ups, and other treatments cost a fraction of what they do in the US, and they are nearly equivalent in quality of service. Prescription medicines are highly subsidized by the govt, over 70-80% of all medical bills automatically covered by govt, etc.
Medicaid/Medicare covers the bare minimum, and every healthcare plan thats been proposed recently has the same fundamental flaw, not addressing the issue of cost of services.
Whats crazy is that per person, the USA spends far more than any other country in the world, even taking into account the extra costs of providing coverage of this large land mass, we still pay a lot more than we should.
We need to put pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, treatment centers, and other facilities in check with tight restrictions/caps on what can be charged
Any healthcare act proposed in the USA will fail, if it doesn't address this issue as one of its priorities
Click to expand...

It is two levels. In American currently we are trying to reform the health insurance industry, not the healthcare industry.

Also, the healthcare industry is so huge, that trying to reckless taming it through just price controls could backfire hard. Actually more competition in the healthcare industry would be a good thing.
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Same way I feel about higher education. U can offer all types of student loan repayment programs u want but the main issue is the cost of college. U gotta lower the costs first.

Sad thing is, these dudes know what they have to do to make real positive change, they just are going through the motions and applying bandages to a deep laceration hoping it will stop the bleeding to make it look like they're trying. They don't really care, if cats who aren't in office can see the issue, but elected officials can't, either they're too stupid to see or see and don't care.
 
Seems like mini hands has really turned a corner...

Gallup- Potus approvals at 60 days:

Carter 75
Reagan 60
HW Bush 56
Clinton 53
W Bush 58
Obama 63
Trump... 37

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Rolaholic said:
Seems like mini hands has really turned a corner...

Gallup- Potus approvals at 60 days:

Carter 75
Reagan 60
HW Bush 56
Clinton 53
W Bush 58
Obama 63
Trump... 37

500
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I can see da Barson effect on the 10th of March. People love Da Barson. Da Don needs to make him secretary of misinformation.
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The more Trump bungles on healthcare, the more his approval ratings will drop and his disapproval rating will keep rising.
All his promises on healthcare are catching up to the dude.
 
Osh Kosh Bosh said:
y'all better be calling your local representatives if he's a republican. :nerd:
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Real talk, I think Dean Heller flagged my number, that joint just rings and rings now. :lol:

But trust, I be on them fools like a Indian pharmacy rep trying to sell pipe pills.
 
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The sad part about these Republican representatives is that they accuse their actual supporters as paid Soros plants when they ask them why they are trying to take their Healthcare away.
 
Osh Kosh Bosh said:
y'all better be calling your local representatives if he's a republican. :nerd:
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If your local representive is a republican, find out which democrat has the best chance to beat him. If that's not a possibility, find out which republican has the best chances to primary him. If you have to register as a republican to primary his/her ***, do it and vote against them in the general. It's the only way. These guys are running away from their constituents, what makes you think they are gonna take calls?
 
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