Star Wars Universe Thread: May The 4th Be With You

Uptempo kid said:

Dude I say change all the names of everything and make your own stuff. Start with a book and get money

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NikeTalker23 said:

Ok so I've always liked Star Wars but lately I've been really getting into it and absorbing as much information as I can. I'm fascinated with the Sith and I've been reading stuff about the Sith race. Are there any books or comics you guys can point me to that are about the Sith and their history? The dark side is very interesting to me.

Also, if I want to star reading stuff in the EU that's canon, where do I start?

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NikeTalker23 said:

Good lookin CP, great info.

Also had a question. If the Sith are an ancient race, why are people like Sidious and Vader considered Sith? Aren't they just technically dark jedi?

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CP1708 said:

I've said it for years, I am 100% down with the Sith.

The Jedi and all their sensitive feelings & ****. Peace and tranquility and love, yeah, and you let the "chosen one" go and slaughter all your kids, rule the galaxy for 2 decades, all because it's "not in your nature" to kill someone for no reason. Yeah, how'd that work out for ya Mace, or Ben?

Next time you have a powerful Force user burnt to a crisp, with one arm, and one leg, you stick your ******* lightsaber in his back. Cuz when you don't, you end up in planet full of sand, all by yourself, while that dude runs **** and kills billions.

Stupid *** Jedi. Get some balls.

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[COLOR=#red]Old Republic Era [/COLOR]

5000-33 BBY
Lost Tribe of the Sith*
Precipice
Skyborn
Paragon
Savior
Purgatory
Sentinel
Pantheon
Secrets

3986-3964 BBY
Untitled Nomi Sunrider novel by Alex Irvine

3656 BBY
The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance by Sean Williams

1003-1000 BBY
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction by Drew Karpyshyn

1000-999 BBY
Darth Bane: Rule of Two by Drew Karpyshyn
Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil by Drew Karpyshyn

[COLOR=#red]Rise of the Empire era[/COLOR]

67-65 BBY
Darth Plagieus by James Luceno

33 BBY
Darth Maul: Saboteur by James Leceno (an e-book novella later published in the paperback edition of Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter

32.5 BBY
Cloak of Deception by James Luceno
Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter by Michael Reaves

32 BBY
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace by Terry Brooks

29 BBY
Rogue Planet by Greg Bear

27 BBY
Outbound Flight by Timothy Zahn

22.5 BBY
The Approaching Storm by Alan Dean Foster

[COLOR=#red]The Clone Wars Era[/COLOR]

22 BBY
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones by R.A. Salvatore

21.5 BBY
Shatterpoint by Matthew Stover

21 BBY
The Cestus Deception by Steven Barnes

19.5 BBY
Jedi Trial by David Sherman and Dan Cragg

19 BBY
Labyrinth of Evil by James Luceno
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover

[COLOR=#red]Imperial Era [/COLOR]

18-11 BBY
Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader by James Luceno

[COLOR=#red]Rebellion Era[/COLOR]

0 BBY
Death Star by Michael Reaves and Steve Perry
Death Troopers by Joe Schreiber
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope by George Lucas and Alan Dean Foster

0-3 ABY
Allegiance by Timothy Zahn
Choices of One by Timothy Zahn
Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster

3 ABY
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back by Donald F. Glut

3.5 ABY
Shadows of the Empire by Steve Perry

4 ABY
Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi by James Kahn
The Truce at Bakura by Kathy Tyers

[COLOR=#red]New Republic Era[/COLOR]

5.5 ABY
Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor by Matthew Stover
X-Wing: Rogue Squadron by
X-Wing: Wedge's Gamble by
X-Wing: The Krytos Trap by
X-Wing: The Bacta War by
X-Wing: Wraith Squadron by
X-Wing: Iron Fist by
X-Wing: Solo Command by

8 ABY
The Courtship of Princess Leia by Dave Wolverton
A Forest Apart by Troy Denning (an e-book novella later publiched in the paperback edition of Tatooine Ghost)
Tatooine Ghost by Troy Denning

9 ABY
Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn
Dark Force Rising by Timothy Zahn
The Last Command by Timothy Zahn

11 ABY
X-Wing: Isard's Revenge by
Jedi Search by Kevin J. Anderson
Dark Apprentice by Kevin J. Anderson
Champions of the Force by Kevin J. Anderson
I, Jedi by Michael Stackpole

12-13 ABY
Children of the Jedi by Barbara Hambly
Darksaber by Kevin J. Anderson
Planet of Twilight by Barbara Hambly
X-Wing: Starfighters of Adumar by

14 ABY
The Crystal Star by Vonda N. McIntyre

16-17 ABY
Before the Storm by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
Shield of Lies by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
Tyrant's Test by Michael P. Kube-McDowell

17 ABY
The New Rebellion by Kristine Kathryn Rusch

18 ABY
Ambush at Corellia by Roger MacBride Allen
Assault at Selonia by Roger MacBride Allen
Showdown at Centerpoint by Roger MacBride Allen

19 ABY
Specter of the Past by Timothy Zahn
Vision of the Future by Timothy Zahn

22 ABY
Fool's Bargain by Timothy Zahn (an e-book novella later published in the paperback edition of Survivor's Quest)
Survivor's Quest by Timothy Zahn

[COLOR=#red]New Jedi Order Era[/COLOR]

25-30 ABY
Vector Prime by R.A. Salvatore
Dark Tide I: Onslaught by Michael Stackpole
Dark Tide II: Ruin by Michael Stackpole
Agents of Chaos I: Hero's Trial by James Luceno
Agents of Chaos II: Jedi EclIpse by James Luceno
Balance Point by Kathy Tyers
Recovery by Troy Denning (an e-book novella)
Edge of Victory I: Conquest by Gregory Keyes
Edge of Victory II: Rebirth by Gregory Keyes
Star by Star by Troy Denning
Dark Journey by Elaine Cunningham
Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dream by Aaron Allston
Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand by Aaron Allston
Traitor by Matthew Stover
Destiny's Way by Walter Jon Williams
Ylesia by Walter Jon Williams (an e-book novella later published in the paperback edition of The Joiner King)
Force Heretic I: Remnant by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
Force Heretic II: Refugee by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
Force Heretic III: Reunion by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
The Final Prophecy by Gregory Keyes
The Unifying Force by James Luceno

35-36 ABY
The Joiner King by Troy Denning
The Unseen Queen by Troy Denning
The Swarm War by Troy Denning

[COLOR=#red]Legacy Era[/COLOR]

40 ABY
Betrayal by Aaron Allston
Bloodlines by Karen Traviss
Tempest by Troy Denning
Exile by Aaron Allston
Sacrifice by Karen Traviss
Inferno by Troy Denning
Fury by Aaron Allston
Revelation by Karen Traviss
Invincible by Troy Denning

41 ABY
Crosscurrent by Paul S. Kemp

43 ABY
Millennium Falcon by James Luceno
Outcast by Aaron Allston
Omen by Christie Golden
Abyss by Troy Denning
Backlash by Aaron Allston
Allies by Christie Golden
Vortex by Troy Denning
Conviction by Aaron Allston
Ascension by Christie Golden
Apocalypse by Troy Denning
X Wing: Mercy Kill by


Crucible by Troy Denning

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CP1708 said:

I've said it for years, I am 100% down with the Sith.

The Jedi and all their sensitive feelings & ****. Peace and tranquility and love, yeah, and you let the "chosen one" go and slaughter all your kids, rule the galaxy for 2 decades, all because it's "not in your nature" to kill someone for no reason. Yeah, how'd that work out for ya Mace, or Ben?

Next time you have a powerful Force user burnt to a crisp, with one arm, and one leg, you stick your ******* lightsaber in his back. Cuz when you don't, you end up in planet full of sand, all by yourself, while that dude runs **** and kills billions.

Stupid *** Jedi. Get some balls.

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Galactic Alliance Chief of State Natasi Daala sat at the end of the table. A woman of late middle years, she had copper-colored hair and lovely features made less appealing by her rigid, military bearing. She wore a white admiral's uniform with broad swaths of service medals across the tunic. A onetime protégée of the Empire's Grand Moff Wil-huff Tarkin—and uncharitably assumed by many to have achieved her military rank because she was also his lover—she had been leader of the Galactic Alliance for two years and had done a fine, measured job of restoring the union's economies and networks of political alliances, which had been shattered by the recent war.
To her right sat Jagged Fel, the young Head of State of the Imperial Remnant. Raised among the Chiss, proven in battle as a combat pilot in the Yuuzhan Vong War, he was a reluctant leader who had shown himself to be adept at keeping the Imperial Moffs in line and in managing difficult Imperial–Hapan relations.
To Jag's right, immediately beside the still-droning Bothan, was Turr Phennir, Supreme Military Commander of the Confederation. He was the closest that loose alliance of planets had to an overall leader. Pale, aristocratic, with a scar reaching from the middle of his left cheek to the left corner of his mouth, he, like Fel, was a former combat pilot. The reputation he'd earned early in his career for classic Imperial backstabbing politics and combat savagery had changed over the years to one of pragmatism and honorable service.
And until now, Luke had given no conscious thought to the fact that these three, the most eminent politicians on Coruscant at this moment, were all Imperials. That realization struck him like a bucket of icy water. He had fought the Imperials for decades, had played a role in the defeat of every one of their major operations during that time, and here they were, in charge of … everything.
Leia glanced at Luke, amused. “I felt that.”
“I didn't put it together before now. I've been thinking of the three of them as themselves, not as Imperials. The fate of the galaxy is, all of a sudden, in the hands of Imperials.”
“Yes.”
“When did it strike you?”
“Two years ago, when Daala and Fel took their posts within a short time of each other.”
“You didn't mention it to me.”
She shrugged. “There was nothing I could do about it. Or should do about it. The symbolism of them all being Imperials in one way or another is nothing compared with the question of who they are inside. I mean, the Rebellion was largely made up of former Imperials. Crix Madine. Mon Mothma. Jan Dodonna. I'm a former Imperial Senator.”
“True. And all three leaders up at that table are honorable people.”
“Yes. But that doesn't mean they want what we want. Or that they can see the consequences of their decisions the way we can.” Leia's smile became distinctly ironic. “I bet Palpatine's ghost is laughing at us right now.”

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Luke sighed. The impulse that had brought him here seemed no closer to revealing itself, and Daala clearly thought he was wasting her time.
“While we're waiting for the Force to announce its presence,” she said, “I did want to say something. I want you to understand, this suit is not personal. Even when we were on opposite sides, representing enemy forces, I had every respect for you. In reviewing your records, it became clear to me that you have had a significant and beneficial effect on the galaxy.”
Luke raised an eyebrow. “But you still need so very much to make the Jedi a mindlessly obedient branch of the government that you're pursuing the trial.”
“It's not about obedience.”
“Oh, that's right. It's about not detecting a Jedi turning to evil. Which we should be able to do far more easily than, say, noticing an Imperial leader growing so callous that he'd obliterate an entire innocent world to convince other worlds to obey.”
Daala became very still. Her face gave away no emotion, but Luke could feel, just for a moment, the pain she had experienced long ago as her love, respect, and even understanding for Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin withered and faded in the wake of the atrocities he had committed in the Emperor's name.
Luke was sorry to make her relive that. But she clearly wanted to exchange blows, and Luke was not unarmed in this match.
She regained her composure a moment later. “It's not about that, either. You're as guilty of not detecting Jacen Solo's turn to evil as others were of not checking the excesses of Imperial officers. But that's not why you're being tried. It's just the argument that will allow us to convict you.”
“Why am I being tried, then? Give me the next layer of truth. Or the next layer below that.”
“It has to do with fairness, and responsibility, and the rule of law.”
“Things the Jedi have always supported.”
“Things the Jedi have always subverted, at least under your leadership.”
Luke couldn't keep his astonishment from his face or voice. “That's ridiculous.”
“Let me give you a hypothetical example. A Coruscant bar in seedy sublevels. Two patrons decide they don't like the looks of a third. They assault him. A Jedi intervenes, out come blaster pistols and a lightsaber, whoosh, whoosh, severed arms litter the barroom floor. Law enforcement officers are called, the Jedi gives them a terse statement and then flits off to his next adventure.”
Luke nodded. “That's a simplistic and overly colorful way of putting it, but, yes, it happens.” It had, in fact, happened almost exactly that way to him, with Luke in the role of the patron about to be assaulted, back before he was a Jedi himself, many years before.
“Do you not see anything wrong with the way the situation was resolved?”
“Not really.”
“First, there's the maiming of the suspects. Would it have been possible for the Jedi to have defeated them without cutting off their arms?”
Luke nodded. “Possibly. Probably. But once the blasters came out of their holsters, the situation became a lot more dangerous for everybody, patrons and Jedi included.”
“Could the Jedi have disarmed them with some use of the Force?”
“That does happen. But we know the Jedi in your example made the correct choice.”
“How so?”
“He was not just reacting to what he saw with his eyes and knew from his experience. He was in tune with the Force. The Force alerted him to the true level of danger and he responded appropriately.”
“Sad that the Force can never be sworn in to testify about the suggestions it offers to the Jedi.”
“True.”
“Or to the Sith. The Force talks to the Sith, too, doesn't it?”
Luke blinked. “The dark side of the Force, yes.”
“You didn't say your Jedi was only listening to the bright side—”
“Light side.”
“Yes, thank you. You just said the Force. But let's stipulate that the good Force is the only one our hypothetical Jedi listens to. It still suggests maiming an awful lot of the time.”
“Hardly a life sentence of disfigurement and handicap. Modern prosthetics are indistinguishable from flesh and bone.” He held up his own prosthetic hand, waggling its fingers at her, as evidence.
“Though they have to be paid for by someone—often the state, when the amputee is of the lower classes—and then maintained, at a cost in credits and technical skill in excess of the upkeep of an ordinary flesh-and-blood arm.”
“Granted.” Luke suppressed an impatient sigh. “Is that what the suit is about, then? A perception that arms are being cut off at a higher rate than the government recommends?”
“No, it's about the Jedi giving a cursory statement to law enforcement and then leaving. Or dashing off without giving one at all. Or just refusing to answer one crucial question the investigating officer asks. And, in every case, getting away with it.”
“I still don't understand, then.”
“I'll walk you through it. The officers show up and ask questions, the Jedi gives a fifty-word statement, the officers say, ‘Thanks, now we need to go back to the neighborhood station for a full statement,’ the Jedi says, ‘Sorry, I have places to be,’ and he's gone. Did the Jedi respond with appropriate force? You think so, but at the government level we never learn, because a short while later he's on Commenor dealing with an organized crime family, then in the Hapes Cluster …”
“Usually the Jedi does make a full statement. Does cooperate to whatever degree the local authorities require.”
“Usually, yes. I have a report here of a Jedi Knight named Seff Hellin who assaulted law officers just a few weeks ago. Whatever he needed to rush off to do, he never came back to offer full cooperation to the authorities. Did he?”
Luke suppressed the urge to fidget. He found himself wishing that Nawara Ven were here, though Daala was herself not being backed up by an advocate. “I can see how incomplete reports and investigations would be frustrating to the government. But you have to trust that we made the right choice at the right time. It's what we're trained to do.”
The smile she turned on him was as frosty as anything Luke had seen in the snowy outback of Hoth. “I do, do I? We'll get back to that. Grand Master, the hypothetical incident I described shows at a very minor, very frequent level that the Jedi are above the law.”
“Not true. Anyone in the bar situation you described could have intervened with lethal force to save the victim from his beating.”
“And then would have been obliged to make a full report, and stay in contact until the investigation was resolved. The Jedi don't respect that law, or any law they find inconvenient. And the choice to sever the arms comes dangerously close to a judicial sentence being enacted at the time of the intervention. Judge, jury, executioner: Jedi.”
“I'm sorry you have that impression.” Luke frowned. “I'd come here hoping that I could persuade you to drop the case. But now I'm wondering whether I should go through the whole trial just to demonstrate to the public that we do cooperate with the authorities. That we don't consider ourselves above the law.”
Daala nodded, her expression agreeable. “Let's talk about Kyp Durron.”
“Master Durron is a fine, responsible Jedi.”
“I'm not talking about the Jedi he is now. I'm talking about the teenager who destroyed most of the life in the Carida system all those years ago.”
Luke, his composure no longer entirely intact, shifted uncomfortably. “He was under the influence of the dark side of the Force at that time, affected by the mental sendings of a long-dead Sith Lord. And in the years since, he has proven himself to be courageous, a defender of life—”
“Yes, he has. I'm not questioning that. But I want to take you back a little over thirty years to shortly after he killed everyone who hadn't yet managed to evacuate Carida in the two hours he generously gave the population. Of course, the solar system he destroyed was an Imperial system, your enemy at the time, which does mitigate his crime in your eyes. Is that why you protected him, shielded him from legal ramifications, trained him?”
“No.”
“Why did you?”
“Because I could look into his heart and see that he had cast the shadow of Exar Kun out, that he was no longer an agent of the dark side, that he had repented.”
“He said he was sorry, and he meant it, and that was sufficient justice for the millions who died on Carida.”
“You're oversimplifying. I knew that he was on the right path again.”
“Because you have the power to see that. Because that's what Jedi are trained to do.”
“Yes.”
Daala sighed. “And because they're trained to do that, to see into people's hearts, sort truth from lies, see into the future where the criminal has reformed and turned to a life of picking flowers, they can decide who should be thanked and who should be cut down, who should be forgiven and who should be left for the ordinary officers of the law to convict. They protect the common citizen but do not answer to him. They do not pay for their mistakes. They obey government orders when those orders conform to their moral code and not when they don't. And that's wrong. Any other group exhibiting that degree of arrogance, that unconcern for the rule of law, would be classified as a criminal organization. That, ultimately, is what this case is about.”
She was wrong. And yet she was chiefly wrong from the Jedi perspective. Remove the Force from the equation, and she suddenly became right. That was jarring to Luke. It was so hard for him now to remember what it was like not to have the Force always contributing to his decision making.
It was then that he detected it: the evil that the Force had brought him here to see. He did not see it as a person or an object, but as a process, a trend—one that he was a part of.
Understanding things as much as he could through Daala's perspective, through the perspective of the common citizen, the one truth he could discern was that if the galaxy thought that the Jedi were above the law, abuses were sure to spring up from that notion as toxic weeds growing rapidly from a pile of manure.
Young Jedi, seeing the ease with which their Masters slid out from underneath common but inconvenient civic responsibilities, would come to think that such behavior was their right. A few, on the fringes of the border between the light side and the dark side, would discern that Kyp Durron had escaped any visible consequence of his actions at Carida … would accept Luke's assertion that Darth Vader had been redeemed, had died a Jedi instead of a Sith despite his many murders, and would not understand the true meaning of the story.
The answer settled across Luke like a leaden shroud. To prevent this evil from growing, he had to lose this case, to be punished. That was what the Force had brought him here to understand.
He met Daala's gaze again. “Will you be prosecuting Master Durron next?”
“I will not. But I could authorize extradition for him to the Imperial Remnant to face their charge of planetary genocide. Head of State Jagged Fel has rather reluctantly presented me with a proposal from the Moff Council on that very subject. But such a thing could be avoided, of course, if we had already set another decisive example.”
Luke gave her a slow nod. “I came here hoping that, face-to-face, without advocates whispering in our ears, we could negotiate a deal. Now, having heard what you have to say, I am certain we can.”
“Tell me.”

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CP1708 said:

Ok, so this would be what I would do, or want to see, if I were working on Episode 7.

Start with the opening crawl saying something along the lines of having advanced 25 years since the battle of Endor, the New Republic has survived the threat of Grand Admiral Thrawn, and an alien invasion by the Yuuzhan Vong. (this allows the introduction of stories, you can use in spinoff films)

Luke Skywalker has rebuilt the Jedi Order and leads them as their Grand Master, including his sister Leia, her twin children Jacen and Jaina and Luke’s son Ben.

Former Imperial Admiral Dalaa has been promoted to Chief of State and has begun investigating the Jedi order with the help of Jacen whom she has given authority of the New Republic security forces soon after returning from his Jedi trials in which he discovered a new dark force in the galaxy.

Jaina and her fiancé Jagged Fel, were in pursuit of Boba Fett’s daughter when she was taken into custody by the New Republic Security Forces led by Jaina’s twin brother. Fett, who managed to escape the Sarlacc pit at Jabba’s palace 25 years ago, was also in search of his daughter with the aid of his granddaughter before being taken into Jacen’s custody.............


(obviously, have to fill in the crawl cleaner, but the idea is there) Gives enough to fill in something about Thrawn, Vong, Fett, names of offspring, Jagged, and Dalaa. All main players. All spinnable in other trilogies as well.




First scene of course will be a ship flying, we see a shuttle landing down on a very beautiful planet much like Earth. (will learn later it is the Hapan planet, Hapes) Jacen is there to meet with his secret girl, the Hapan Queen and Jedi Tenel Ka. Much like Anakin and Amidala, they meet in secrecy like they did at the start of Revenge/Sith. This lets you in on them being together, but keeping it a secret for some reason.
They speak of a secret that will eventually become Amelia, something that is troubling Jacen very much. He will be dressed in all black, boots, shirt, pants, and robe.

He will return to his New Republic ship and will go to interrogate Ailyn Vel, Boba Fetts daughter, and mother of Mirta Gev. During the interrogation with Vel, Jacen becomes extremely angry and force chokes the life out of Vel, killing her. His rage will be forceful, and powerful, while not lifting a finger. Damage to the interrogation cell, everything.


Luke will feel something in the force, and grow a worried look immediately reaching for his comlink to speak with Leia. She will ask when the last time she’d heard from Jacen was, and she will inform him it’s been a while, and he’s been pretty distant since getting back from his trials. Luke tells her something is wrong, they need to reach out to him, and find him. Ben, Luke’s son will enter with an older red head, his mother, and Luke’s wife, Mara Jade. Luke will tell them what he felt, and that they need to see Jacen as soon as they can.

Luke, Han, Leia, Jaina, Jagged, Ben, and Mara will meet up and head off in the Falcon to rendezvous with Jacen. Jacen is busy falsifying what happened to Vel and tells Dalaa he did nothing wrong. Dalaa is concerned, but not overly as Vel was a bounty hunter and won’t be missed by many, however, she being a politician will use the fact at a later time when dealing with Fett.


On another planet, (Kesh) we see a late teen’s girl, training hard, impressive, able to defend herself well and very cunning in her movements on her homeworld. She will be pretty, and strong willed, and appear to be a strong young Jedi. She will then return home, and upon entering, will encounter a strong, powerful looking man, who berates her, and belittles her as if she is nothing. She will be afraid, but bold, even when backhanded across a room. She is no Jedi, they are Sith. This will be Vestara Khai and her father, Gavar Khai. (The new threat, the galaxy knows nothing about…..yet)


(plenty of small talk, plot points, dialogue, on the Falcon, on Dalaa’s Star Destroyer, Slave 1, etc)


Luke and co reach Dalaa’s ship, and find out that Vel has been killed, and “mysteriously” at that. They of course are wise enough to figure out that it was Jacen. When approached about the subject, Jacen is disrespectful to his mother, his father, and his uncle, even tho he seemed like the same ol Jacen when they came aboard the ship. Dalaa watches from a distance.


Leia has to communicate to Fett that his daughter has been killed, knowing, what that will mean for her family. Jacen acts busy and shu’s them off ship, saying that he is very busy. As the Falcon leaves, Jacen orders his ship to fire on the Falcon, Han’s piloting the only thing that gets them away unharmed. They do not understand why Jacen is slipping, but they recognize the signs. Jacen as they know him, is falling.


Eventually the Falcon lands, and the family splits up. Luke, Mara and Ben go to the Temple, Jaina and Fel to his duties, and Han and Leia to their own place. All of them, trying to understand what is changing within Jacen.


Vestara is set to travel with her mentor on another training exercise. There, they encounter a strange force sensitive presence, that will become Ship. Mentally Vestara will feel Ship, and communicate with it, explaining to her mentor (and the audience) what it is Ship wants. To take Vestara and her mentor, off world. Something they have never done.


Jaina is torn about her brother, and after speaking with Tenel Ka, still cannot grasp what it wrong with Jacen, or what he went thru in his Jedi Trials. Slowly, she comes to realize that somebody will have to stop Jacen, as him being the leader of the New Republic’s secret police is a lot of firepower for someone that may not be able to be trusted fully anymore. At the same time, her twin Jacen is speaking with his #2, Tahiri Veila about his deceased brother, and her former love, Anakin who was killed in the war against the Vong. Thru his Jedi hold on her, he can take her back to the moment he passed, showing her (and the audience) what happened to the 3rd Solo child. This connection, will change Veila as well, from Jedi, to Jacen’s apprentice. Jacen still appears normal to the rest of the galaxy, a Jedi hero and a member of the famous Solo clan, but those close to him fear where he is headed.

Fett shows no emotion over the death of his daughter, outside of finding a way to get to Jacen. He arranges a meeting thru back channels to speak with Dalaa, and tries to get her to send Jacen out into the open so that he can take him down with the help of Mirta. Dalaa shows him a holovid of Jacen coming down a ramp with his black cape billowing behind him, and both of them have the same sense of familiarity. Dalaa will remark how that sure is an eerie sight. (resembling Vader but without the helmet) Dalaa offers to help, but only if Fett will provide her with Mandorian strength when she needs it. Fett doesn’t like it, but agrees, for the sole reason of getting to Jacen.


Jaina will reach out to Fett, who is surprised to hear from a Solo. She asks him for his help, which he laughs at. Eventually, he sees an angle, and decides he will help her. Jaina being Jacen’s twin, is the closest match to him in terms of Jedi ability, but as twins, she would not have the upper hand. She would look for that, in training with a Mandalorian, giving her a new way to fight, along with her Jedi training. Fett sees it as a win win, either way, one of Han Solo’s children will die. He no longer cares which one.


Luke begins searching where Jacen had traveled too, and what it was he went thru that has him changing from the dashing hero he once was, to the cold blooded killer he became when he killed Fett’s daughter and fired upon his own family. This will lead to a conversation with Dalaa, who will effectively drop some nukes on him about Jedi being above and beyond the government, and if she is ever truly going to have a New Republic at peace, the Jedi need to be reined in. (this will need classic dialogue, on both sides, that will be complete eye openers for both beliefs)

Jaina will meet with Fett on Mandalore, and begin training. This, of course, will not be easy for her as Fett will test her mightily. (The main purpose here will be to see Fett in his home environment, as well as introduce other Mando’s)


Jacen will lead a New Republic charge against another faction of government as he sees fit. A battle will ensue, that will show how good Jacen is in combat.


Ship brings Vestara and her mentor to a strange planet. Even as Sith, they will be hesitant, and proceed carefully thru a jungle. They will bring another group of Sith with them under her mentor’s control. One by one, some Sith will perish to an unknown inhabitant of the planet., or even the planet itself with various live organisms the Sith have never encountered. (will eventually be Abeloth)


Han and Leia try once again to speak with Jacen after his battle, to try and get him back. He acts like himself, but nevertheless refuses to agree to anything they ask. He is polite, and calm, but also cold, and Leia can sense he is hiding something from them. His actions speak louder than his thoughts, she tells Han they have to stop him, whatever it is he is planning.


Other members of the Jedi order are dispatched to the outter rim to investigate strange reports. Kyp Durron, Saba, Ben, Mara, Kyle Katarn, Kenth Hamner, and other no named Jedi travel out at Luke’s request while he tries to figure out what to do about Jacen. (Luke has not yet been informed of Jaina’s plan)

The planet the Jedi will head for, is the same planet the team of Sith are on, with Ship, and Abeloth. (unseen at this point)

The Jedi and Sith groups will eventually run into each other, and battle will ensue. To this point, the galaxy was unaware of any Sith still living, the Jedi will now have found a rather large group of them. Word will be sent back to Luke-Leia, causing even more concern for them.


Jaina’s training will continue with Fett, but will be interrupted, much like Luke's was with Yoda. He has been hard on her, and the Mando’s have treated her rough, but not to be jokesters, merely to train her (and cause her a little discomfort as she is Han Solo’s daughter) She will receive an alarming call from Luke who needs her help elsewhere. She will return to Fett (in the next film) and Fett will use the free time to make some moves of his own.


Sith enforcements will be sent to the aid of Vestara and her group, and we will start to see the Sith leadership for the first time. Luke, Leia, Corran Horn, and Jaina will also be showing up, meaning Jacen is still free to roam the galaxy. He has been having visions, troubling visions, that scare him and darken him each time. His control over Tahiri will bring her down with him, as she must follow him in order to “see” the final moments of Anakin’s life and hold on to him any way she can. Their path to becoming Sith will be going on, while the Jedi discover an entire species of Sith they have to deal with. Jacen will become, Darth Caedus.

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At this juncture, Episode 7 closes, with a pause in the battle between Jedi and Sith, Abeloth still undetected and only hinted at, Caedus turning (and not yet known to the Jedi) as well as the secret Jacen was keeping. Dalaa’s deal with Fett has been introduced, but not yet enacted, and plenty is left on the plate for Episode 8. As I stated, this only the rough story I would follow, dialogue and further character development would be needed, the names of other random Jedi/Sith, Dalaa’s right hand man (I forget his name), the planet they will meet Vestara on, etc. All of that would need to be fleshed out. But this is the story I would put on screen, and would open doors for other spin offs to follow later. (like the Vong war, Thrawn, Anakin Solo, Fett post RotJ, etc)

So anyone that actually read this, would you watch this movie once it was cleaned and polished up?


(Eventually, the 2nd film would feature Jacen/Caedus killing Mara, and the 3rd film would be Jaina vs Caedus, while Luke meets with Abeloth. At the same time, the Jedi Temple being sieged by the Mandos, from Dalaa's request.) The close of the trilogy could “look” like Luke had defeated Abeloth, and the Jedi have repelled the Sith, but really, Abeloth would just be hiding, and taking another form. While the Sith slip back into the shadows, and later, more films could delve into those stories, including Ben and Vestara’s story. Amelia, etc.

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