Star Wars Universe Thread: May The 4th Be With You

[CP1708]

i think the skywalkers will always be around if rey is indeed a skywalker.

although the galaxy is huge you wont be able to completely abandon the skywalker name and what occurred in the og trilogy ever.

you just cant. there is no way around it

the only way a new saga could be completely about something else is if they choose to make some trilogies that happened way before phantom menace

I wanted to get to this earlier. I think you're mis-reading what we're getting at. I'm not saying you have to have films completely ignore the name, I'm saying you don't have to centrally theme/locate Skywalkers in your story.

You can do a spin off film and mention Luke blew up the death star, or Luke fought Vader, or Vader killed Palpatine, etc, you can easily do that, you just don't have to cast or recast a Skywalker for every film you make. Does that make more sense?

Same as I fully expect the Han Solo project to at least mention Boba Fett, but that doesn't have to mean that Fett is in the movie. (tho I would hope he would at least cameo in some capacity)

Look at how Han referenced Jabba in A New Hope, (and Empire) but you didn't see Jabba til Jedi. Same kinda deal.


Off the top, just guessing on my end, we have:

Rogue One
Han Solo _ films
Fett spin off?
Yoda spin off? (tho I don't really care to see a Yoda spin off, I know there are others that do)
KOTOR???? (This is a MUST IMO)
Bane era???
Knights of Ren???
Jedi-Sith war?????
Maul solo films????
Thrawn????


That's a lot of material, and none of it would have to focus on Luke or Anakin/Vader. They could certainly be alluded too tho in random dialogue of the film(s). (like Rogue having Vader for a few minutes here or there, but not a "main" character of the film.

Iono, if we get even half of that, I'll be thrilled. They can be standalones, or have sequels, or full on trilogies. Guess it depends on how deep they want to get into each story.

I'd give anything to see a Solo standalone trilogy, and a Fett standalone trilogy, and then have them intersect at some point thereafter. Or even do the first two films of each seperate, and have the third film for each involve the other. All depends on how they wanna build it.

If I wanted to get greedy, I could ask for a Mara Jade film or two, and her being re-canonized. Show her life as the Emperor's Hand. (pre-Luke) She'd be every bit as awesome as Black Widow would be in a solo film or two. (probably better)
Outbound Flight film could be done now that Thrawn is back. Couple hundred missing dreadnaughts would be a cool story to tell.
Young Qwi-Gon film?
Snoke/Plageius?????


I mean, why on earth would people think that Skywalkers HAVE to be in films? I'm not even asking for a quarter of the EU stuff that's out there. Just bits and pieces they've already acknowledged could exist.

 

[CP1708]

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[jays25]

Wouldn't mind new covers for a few of the trilogies from the EU

 

[Master Zik]

Fans aren't idiots man. They'll still be able to go see a film, understand it, and enjoy it whether a main character has the Skywalker name or not People are exaggerating this ****.

I don't think the stance is that casual fans will be lost without a Skywalker in the movie. Its just stating a fact and trend and using that to predict the future moves of the current trilogy.

Lame might being taking it a bit far if he means Skywalker is Star Wars that every SW numbered movie must deal with a Skywalker forever like it's some unwritten rule.

In actually in favor of ditching it and felt they should've just did that now. Pull a Star Trek and set this 100 years in the future to the next century. Lets create and deal with a new group of characters with only slight references and Easter eggs harkening back to the OG trilogy.

 

[CP1708]

Stop using Star Trek. No.

1-9 is Skywalker based, no prob there.

But movie a year pretty soon, not numbered anymore, bye bye Skywalker shackles.

Send Skywalker to the Klingons.

 

[Master Zik]

I used Star Trek as an example of how recasting and future stories worked for me. If they just rebooted I would be less enthused.

As opposed to why I'm not digging this Han Solo thing. Hope it's just one movie.

As far as 1-9, and no more numbered movies I don't believe that at all. I'm pretty sure a 10-12 is coming. They're like the main celestial body while the spinoffs are satellite moons. Even if they stop the numbering (by 15 is my guess) they'll still have a main story line of Star Wars movies going on.

 

[CP1708]

I think you’re bein a lil hard on what the Han Solo films could give you. There’s a lot they can dive into, even in 3 films. And again, I don’t know how much (if any) they’ll pull from the EU, but you could see things like, his home world of Coriliea, (sp) his time in the Imperial Navy (as in, he was a part of the Empire) his escape from that life, saving Chewie, his dealings with Lando, winning the Falcon in a game of Sabbacc (and insanely interesting sounding card game) from Lando, the Kessell run, his work with Jabba, and of course Fett. Again, that’s only old stuff from the EU they COULD use, who knows if they’ll want to go an all new route and create even more backstory on him.

I mean, that’s one character, and a lot of layers in Star Wars lore you can play with. And it would be without Jedi/Sith stuff since he only sees the Force for the first real time via Obi-Wan/Luke.

I don’t know if they will deliver like I hope they do, they may completely screw the pooch and screw up everything, I don’t know, but potential wise, his story has the most layers and connectivity of anybody in the franchise. Leia doesn’t have that kind of backstory, Luke was a damn moisture farming boy, Han is the only one that can really peel back more layers of things we all know and love from Star Wars. Young Jabba, Prime Fett, young Lando, young(er) Chewie, Empire/Stormtroopers, running spice, smuggling, etc. Lot to love in there man. You should give it a chance at least. I don’t know any details yet on who’s working on it, or what they wanna accomplish, but I have faith if they do it proper, they will be able to tell a great story with all that material that isn’t just EU. A lot of that is referenced inside the actual movies.

 

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Send Skywalker to the Klingons.

Poor Klingons 

 

[jays25]

I think you’re bein a lil hard on what the Han Solo films could give you. .

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This is really all you'll ever need from a Han Solo Trilogy Make a live action adaptation and we're in business as far as spin-offs go.

 

[CP1708]

As far as 1-9, and no more numbered movies. I don't believe that at all. I'm pretty sure a 10-12 is coming. They're like the main celestial body while the spinoffs are satellite moons. Even if they stop the numbering (by 15 is my guess) they'll still have a main story line of Star Wars movies going on.

Ooooooooooooh, I dunno about that.

You have 1-3
20+ years
4-6
30+ years
7-9

In order to do 10-12, you gonna do another multi decade jump? Or stick with this cast of Rey/Finn/Poe?

I think they stop at 9, and then if some of these characters become large enough to follow still, they branch off and do separate entities for whoever needs it.

There are a lot of things you don't know about, but I would love, LOVE Kylo to have a child somewhere. I can't even tell you how much I would love that. And there could be somethin spun from that, but it wouldn't fit into their timeline they've followed with the first trio of trilogies. So branching off is the best route, at least to this point.

I really don't see Star Wars X or anything like that. I think they start titling them and dropping the installment number once 9 completes. We'll see tho. Depends on how everything is received, this is what makes Rogue One so important. It's the first test.

 

[CP1708]

I think you’re bein a lil hard on what the Han Solo films could give you. .

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This is really all you'll ever need from a Han Solo Trilogy Make a live action adaptation and we're in business as far as spin-offs go.

That could work, or even something like this

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Tho, of course they would have to only pull bits and pieces from it as it was non-canonized but a lot of the background stuff would work.

 

[CP1708]

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God damn, I wanna meet that guy. Puts my life to shame.

 

[jays25]

That's a setup similar to what i'd live to have one day. A few book cases solely for my Star Wars stuff.

That could work, or even something like this

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Tho, of course they would have to only pull bits and pieces from it as it was non-canonized but a lot of the background stuff would work.

Yeah you would, especially depending on the age you're trying to write Han as. Personally, I enjoyed his mysterious past from the EU and his lack of a family. Characters like Thrackan Sal-Solo and Shrike were also decent scoundrels that stood in Han's way on his journey.

 

[Master Zik]

I think you’re bein a lil hard on what the Han Solo films could give you......

I'll no doubt give it a chance but I'm not looking forward to it the way I would ep VIII or Rogue One or a Fett or even Kenobi spin-off.

I can agree Han's worth is in his history and opportunity to peel back layers of SW lore and some years we're not aware of first hand but I kinda know what I'm gonna get ; races, gambling, running from bounty hunterss, etc. Half of that I'm not sure is worth it given the chance it may get ****** up. As opposed to Rogue One, some of the stuff in his history I'm fine with it being already mentioned in passing and not straight up all shown.

I dunno maybe I'm just focused on some the new than periods of the past.

As far as 1-9, and no more numbered movies. I don't believe that at all. I'm pretty sure a 10-12 is coming. They're like the main celestial body while the spinoffs are satellite moons. Even if they stop the numbering (by 15 is my guess) they'll still have a main story line of Star Wars movies going on.

Ooooooooooooh, I dunno about that.

You have 1-3
20+ years
4-6
30+ years
7-9

In order to do 10-12, you gonna do another multi decade jump? Or stick with this cast of Rey/Finn/Poe?

I think they stop at 9, and then if some of these characters become large enough to follow still, they branch off and do separate entities for whoever needs it.

I really don't see Star Wars X or anything like that. I think they start titling them and dropping the installment number once 9 completes. We'll see tho. Depends on how everything is received, this is what makes Rogue One so important. It's the first test.

I can totally see a Star Wars XV.

As far as gaps, time to Harry Potter this now. No more multiple decades but just a few years or so. Maybe time passed matches real time as far as time it takes to go from

7-9
5 years
10-12 (Stick with Finn/Poe/Rey + introduce new characters)
7 years, 10 at most
13-15 (Perhaps the transitioning out of Rey/Finn/Poe for a new cast)

I can't just see them not having some main Star Wars story told with a large ensemble cast going on some mission/quest/adventure to kind of anchor everything but instead being in favor of just multiple spin offs and solo movies.

 

[Jim Shady]

I doubt numbered episodes will ever stop as long as Disney sees a profit they're going to milk this thing for every cent they can I'm not saying that this is a good thing I just know how Disney operates they'll keep churning em out until it's not profitable anymore

 

[CP1708]

I think you’re bein a lil hard on what the Han Solo films could give you......

I'll no doubt give it a chance but I'm not looking forward to it the way I would ep VIII or Rogue One or a Fett or even Kenobi spin-off.

I can agree Han's worth is in his history and opportunity to peel back layers of SW lore and some years we're not aware of first hand but I kinda know what I'm gonna get ; races, gambling, running from bounty hunterss, etc. Half of that I'm not sure is worth it given the chance it may get ****** up. As opposed to Rogue One, some of the stuff in his history I'm fine with it being already mentioned in passing and not straight up all shown.

I dunno maybe I'm just focused on some the new than periods of the past.

As far as 1-9, and no more numbered movies. I don't believe that at all. I'm pretty sure a 10-12 is coming. They're like the main celestial body while the spinoffs are satellite moons. Even if they stop the numbering (by 15 is my guess) they'll still have a main story line of Star Wars movies going on.

Ooooooooooooh, I dunno about that.

You have 1-3
20+ years
4-6
30+ years
7-9

In order to do 10-12, you gonna do another multi decade jump? Or stick with this cast of Rey/Finn/Poe?

I think they stop at 9, and then if some of these characters become large enough to follow still, they branch off and do separate entities for whoever needs it.

I really don't see Star Wars X or anything like that. I think they start titling them and dropping the installment number once 9 completes. We'll see tho. Depends on how everything is received, this is what makes Rogue One so important. It's the first test.

I can totally see a Star Wars XV.

As far as gaps, time to Harry Potter this now. No more multiple decades but just a few years or so. Maybe time passed matches real time as far as time it takes to go from

7-9
5 years
10-12 (Stick with Finn/Poe/Rey + introduce new characters)
7 years, 10 at most
13-15 (Perhaps the transitioning out of Rey/Finn/Poe for a new cast)

I can't just see them not having some main Star Wars story told with a large ensemble cast going on some mission/quest/adventure to kind of anchor everything but instead being in favor of just multiple spin offs and solo movies.

But look what you're doing in that. You're giving Anakin just 3 films? Luke just the 3 films? (speaking in their primes of course, well, cept for Anakin)

But Rey/Poe/Finn get 6-7-8 movies, possibly? Does that make any sense to you? Cuz I don't see that. COULD it be done? Sure, probably. Would it make the most sense? I don't see that.


As for ensemble cast someday doin work. Thrawn. Thrawn. All needs to be said. Thrawn. We could do that real sexy someday. 5-7-10 years down the road, whatever. We could see some numbers that would change Cinema. We may never get it, at least not in it's best form, but they can still make something work off of him. Won't be "real" trilogy we all know and love, but it could still be pretty damn good, and could be ensemble all hands on deck type of films.

 

[jays25]

No way in hell Finn is about to pull 8 films He's got his guaranteed 3 and then he's out minus a few cameos down the line.

 

[big j 33]

I know there's material out there, but I don't see how we really get a great Solo trilogy. The stuff CP listed as all the interesting Han stuff seems like it's a single movie.. maybe 1.5 movies. 

 

[Master Zik]

I think you’re bein a lil hard on what the Han Solo films could give you......

I'll no doubt give it a chance but I'm not looking forward to it the way I would ep VIII or Rogue One or a Fett or even Kenobi spin-off.

I can agree Han's worth is in his history and opportunity to peel back layers of SW lore and some years we're not aware of first hand but I kinda know what I'm gonna get ; races, gambling, running from bounty hunterss, etc. Half of that I'm not sure is worth it given the chance it may get ****** up. As opposed to Rogue One, some of the stuff in his history I'm fine with it being already mentioned in passing and not straight up all shown.

I dunno maybe I'm just focused on some the new than periods of the past.

As far as 1-9, and no more numbered movies. I don't believe that at all. I'm pretty sure a 10-12 is coming. They're like the main celestial body while the spinoffs are satellite moons. Even if they stop the numbering (by 15 is my guess) they'll still have a main story line of Star Wars movies going on.

Ooooooooooooh, I dunno about that.

You have 1-3
20+ years
4-6
30+ years
7-9

In order to do 10-12, you gonna do another multi decade jump? Or stick with this cast of Rey/Finn/Poe?

I think they stop at 9, and then if some of these characters become large enough to follow still, they branch off and do separate entities for whoever needs it.

I really don't see Star Wars X or anything like that. I think they start titling them and dropping the installment number once 9 completes. We'll see tho. Depends on how everything is received, this is what makes Rogue One so important. It's the first test.

I can totally see a Star Wars XV.

As far as gaps, time to Harry Potter this now. No more multiple decades but just a few years or so. Maybe time passed matches real time as far as time it takes to go from

7-9
5 years
10-12 (Stick with Finn/Poe/Rey + introduce new characters)
7 years, 10 at most
13-15 (Perhaps the transitioning out of Rey/Finn/Poe for a new cast)

I can't just see them not having some main Star Wars story told with a large ensemble cast going on some mission/quest/adventure to kind of anchor everything but instead being in favor of just multiple spin offs and solo movies.

But look what you're doing in that. You're giving Anakin just 3 films? Luke just the 3 films? (speaking in their primes of course, well, cept for Anakin)

But Rey/Poe/Finn get 6-7-8 movies, possibly? Does that make any sense to you? Cuz I don't see that. COULD it be done? Sure, probably. Would it make the most sense? I don't see that.


As for ensemble cast someday doin work. Thrawn. Thrawn. All needs to be said. Thrawn. We could do that real sexy someday. 5-7-10 years down the road, whatever. We could see some numbers that would change Cinema. We may never get it, at least not in it's best form, but they can still make something work off of him. Won't be "real" trilogy we all know and love, but it could still be pretty damn good, and could be ensemble all hands on deck type of films.

Makes sense to me. Especially if they become the popular characters I think they will be.

Anakin only got 3 films cuz Hayden sucks.

Luke only got 3 films cuz George clearly was on a 25 year coke binge. Why there are no 90s SW movies is beyond me. It's like son ain't see the success of sci-finspace movies at the time and movie box office just continuing to rise.

At the very least 6 movies for that trio is fine and doable. Don't really see why it wouldn't work. If they're doing those specific movies every 2 or 3 years it makes the most sense and less to drop them after 3 and skip another 20-30 years in story.

As far as movies go today, the real successful franchises are getting anywhere from 5 to 9 movies with the same characters (LOTR, Harry Potter, Hunger Games, etc.). The printing money franchises can go up to 12 with the same characters showing up in multiple movies (Marvel).

I'm pretty sure Disney will follow that model.

No way in hell Finn is about to pull 8 films He's got his guaranteed 3 and then he's out minus a few cameos down the line.

Oh they probably gonna kill Finn.

 

[CP1708]

No man.

Darth Vader origin story got 3 films.
Luke Skywalker got 3 films.

Cinema shifting characters.

Rey, Finn, Poe ain't getting double that, c'mon.

I'd bet on a Vader spin off trilogy way before that trio gets two trilogies.

 

[Master Zik]

I wouldn't be mad at it but if you see it that way I can see why you think there won't be a SWX.

I think they're bringing back this cast for a 2nd trilogy at the least.

If they do a Vader trilogy then he (the character) would be getting 6

It's gonna happen one way or the other. I mean just let one newish character explode in popularity and that character get 9 movies.

 

[CP1708]

9 movies is 20+ years of films. In a ginormous universe with tons of material. They don't need to focus on a single character. Even Thrawn wouldn't need 9.

 

[Master Zik]

Harry Potter had 8 films and that only took 10 years.

Just film a few back to back.

It's not really about "need" either.

 

[CP1708]

That was the only project they did tho. HP, nonstop.

Star Wars is doing multiple films/projects. It's not gonna happen man. Too much other stuff to put out.