Nike stole flyknit upper from Adidas?

freelythinkingmind

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Just heard Nike snatched up the flyknit design/idea from Adidas labs and lawsuits are going on around the world in different countries to choose who an carry the item......

What's everyone thoughts on this?
 
freelythinkingmind said:
Just heard Nike snatched up the flyknit design/idea from Adidas labs and lawsuits are going on around the world in different countries to choose who an carry the item......

What's everyone thoughts on this?
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Where did you "hear" this?

And if true, I wonder what else Adidas is sitting on.
 
freelythinkingmind said:
40inchBoost said:
Nike > Adidas
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Completely understand ... And they are making it clear by taking any possible contenders designs and making it their own?
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I doubt the Flyknits of all things is what made dude above post that statement.

Come at me when it comes out they stole the design for Jordans 1-14, The Lebrons, Kobes, KD's, Pennys, Nike Frees, etc.

Nike has built an empire of dope shoes.
 
Meek Meals said:


I doubt the Flyknits of all things is what made dude above post that statement.​

Come at me when it comes out they stole the design for Jordans 1-14, The Lebrons, Kobes, KD's, Pennys, Nike Frees, etc.​

Nike has built an empire of dope shoes.​
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Yes Nike owns basketball that's common knowledge... As far as running, here in the US Nike dominates and that's it.. Adidas runs the rest of the world... I have tons of frees and yes they are cool, the new Adidas shoe is crazy better for the same price... My brother works for a shoe store and a rep showed us and let us try it on, it feels like a memory bed for your foot without the sinking in that a memory bed does... And the flyknit upper throws it over the top-
But like I said a brand like Nike has to appear in front! I own a pair of crazy 8s and a pair of Somoas lol , not a fan of Adidas just wanted to see where everyone's head is at.
 
I think its still indeterminable who came up with it first.

At the end of the day, the flyknit actually came out, and as far as I know the primeknit didn't
 
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CK: What do you say to people who’ve seen the recent adidas Primeknit unveiling and have equated it to essentially a “copy” of Nike’s Flyknit? It’s said Primeknit has been in development for four years now, but how do you quell the large general public sentiment right now that Primeknit looks like a me-too product or worse? Are there documents or technical drawings or otherwise that can date Primeknit has been in development for multiple years now which could easily settle the public’s thinking on the subject?


Carnes: There are a couple of things to take into consideration. The first is just a pragmatic realization that it would have been impossible to copy this process in a matter of months. We have four years of documentation in the form of prototypes, tech drawings, samples, etc. Second, I’d like to separate media timing from the real value of the concept. Timing is important, but not our only priority. We’re concerned with making the world a better place through sport, and this gets us a step closer.
Simply stated, it’s responsible to be looking into alternative ways to construct shoes. It’s always been the case that great ideas break to the surface at the same time because we live in an interconnected world with environmental, economic and societal pressures. If, as a company, you are paying attention and at the top of your game, you are always searching for the next breakthrough discovery to meet these needs. It took us four years to get here, and you’ll see us continue to pioneer innovative processes like this. I hope people enjoy what I think is a next stage in performance footwear and a new era in sneaker culture.
 
LAOKRATWR said:
http://www.examiner.com/article/nik...inst-adidas-prohibits-sale-of-primeknit-shoes
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http://www.law360.com/ip/articles/392462/adidas-defeats-german-injunction-in-nike-shoe-patent-suit

http://www.just-style.com/news/court-lifts-ban-on-adidas-primeknit-shoe_id116068.aspx

Mind you this is just an injunction. This doesn't say either way that Adidas or Nike is right in their argument over copyright infringement. Personally, I think Adidas had the idea first, and Nike somehow heard of the idea and started working on their own and got it to market first. It wouldn't make sense for Adidas to outright copy the shoe; Adidas is no looking to be seen as a copy cat.

It is also entirely possible that they started working on this knit technology at the same time independently.
 
Chato said:
http://www.law360.com/ip/articles/392462/adidas-defeats-german-injunction-in-nike-shoe-patent-suit
http://www.just-style.com/news/court-lifts-ban-on-adidas-primeknit-shoe_id116068.aspx
Mind you this is just an injunction. This doesn't say either way that Adidas or Nike is right in their argument over copyright infringement. Personally, I think Adidas had the idea first, and Nike somehow heard of the idea and started working on their own and got it to market first. It wouldn't make sense for Adidas to outright copy the shoe; Adidas is no looking to be seen as a copy cat.
It is also entirely possible that they started working on this knit technology at the same time independently.
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i understand what you sayin.thing is if noone has copyrighted the idea( for obvious reasons) the one that circulated the first merchandise based on it got the copyright.at least thats what i think...anyways i would love to get my hands on some primeknits to compare...
 
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i can't even find flyknits in the mall / mainstream retailers so I don't know what all the fuss is about . . . only seen them on TV during the olympics . . .
 
semf said:
i can't even find flyknits in the mall / mainstream retailers so I don't know what all the fuss is about . . . only seen them on TV during the olympics . . .
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That because they are PERFORMANCE aimed running shoes, they aren't your free runs or something.
 
LAOKRATWR said:
i understand what you sayin.thing is if noone has copyrighted the idea( for obvious reasons) the one that circulated the first merchandise based on it got the copyright.at least thats what i think...anyways i would love to get my hands on some primeknits to compare...
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Well, from what I can remember I think the person/company who first has proof of the idea in some tangible form like a prototype or something would be able to get the copyright.

Also, this is from the Wikipedia page on copyrights:

Copyright law recognises the right of an author based on whether the work actually is an original creation, rather than based on whether it is unique; two authors may own copyright on two substantially identical works, if it is determined that the duplication was coincidental, and neither was copied from the other.
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So in the end, both companies might eventually hold the copyrights to the knit technology.
I would like both companies to be able to produce their knit shoes. Competition in the market is good for us consumers, giving price breaks and pushing the technology further and faster. Leaving it solely in Nike or Adidas's hands would allow the company who owns the copyright to set the price and the pace of how they develop the tech.
 
anhuynh16 said:
That because they are PERFORMANCE aimed running shoes, they aren't your free runs or something.
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Honestly, I don't even consider these performance-based running shoes. These are what performance-based running shoes are supposed to look like:
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The only Nike shoes that I would consider performance-based are the Bowerman Series (Zoom Structure, Pegasus, Vomero, etc.)
 
Foamposite XI said:
Honestly, I don't even consider these performance-based running shoes. These are what performance-based running shoes are supposed to look like:
brooks-adrenaline.jpg

The only Nike shoes that I would consider performance-based are the Bowerman Series (Zoom Structure, Pegasus, Vomero, etc.)
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Ironic post. I just picked up a pair of the new Brooks Adrenaline GTS 13 yesterday from my specialty running store. I've heard the folks there say time and time again, most serious runners don't even consider Nike. They are fashion first, performance 2nd. The Bowerman series is all they have left, and that is even going downhill. After running in the Zoom Structure 15 for the last year, I tried the new Zoom structure 16 and they are horrible after switching to the dynamic support, which I suspected would hurt stability and it certainly does.
 
Foamposite XI said:
Honestly, I don't even consider these performance-based running shoes. These are what performance-based running shoes are supposed to look like:
brooks-adrenaline.jpg

The only Nike shoes that I would consider performance-based are the Bowerman Series (Zoom Structure, Pegasus, Vomero, etc.)
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I'll agree to disagree. I'm not an olympian, but I'm a pretty decent runner, and I'm hoping to BQ. All I run in is Nike, specifically Lunars and Free Run 2s.

I tested the market when I wore out my original LunarTrainers for the other brands; Mizuno, Asics, etc., and I went right back to the Swoosh. The other brands weren't cutting it for me. Since then, I've trained for two full marathons and one half marathon in both Lunars and Free Run 2s. I'll admit style, the way the shoe looks and cw play a big role in my decision to purchase and run in.

I recently surpassed 1,000mi in my LunarEclipse, and I'm continuing to log mileage with them. They're still going strong, and I'm nearly approaching 1,100mi. I'll probably retire them at 1,500. I can vouch that Nike's modern line of running shoes are quality performers.
 
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^You're definitely in the minority. Most long distance runners/runners overall definitely don't prefer anything with a Free sole. There's just not enough support, stability, or cushion with the Free Runs, which can result in some serious injuries. There are some good Nike running shoes...LunarEclipses, LunarGlides, Vomeros...But Brooks and Mizunos are definitely the preferred choices for most runners. However, different strokes for different folks...
 
ILLustRAYt said:
I'll agree to disagree. I'm not an olympian, but I'm a pretty decent runner, and I'm hoping to BQ. All I run in is Nike, specifically Lunars and Free Run 2s.
I tested the market when I wore out my original LunarTrainers for the other brands; Mizuno, Asics, etc., and I went right back to the Swoosh. The other brands weren't cutting it for me. Since then, I've trained for two full marathons and one half marathon in both Lunars and Free Run 2s. I'll admit style, the way the shoe looks and cw play a big role in my decision to purchase and run in.
I recently surpassed 1,000mi in my LunarEclipse, and I'm continuing to log mileage with them. They're still going strong, and I'm nearly approaching 1,100mi. I'll probably retire them at 1,500. I can vouch that Nike's modern line of running shoes are quality performers.
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Did you test out Brooks? A lot of runners swear by them.
 
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