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Los Angeles Lakers: Why Kobe Bryant Is the Most Overrated Player in the NBA

BY PETER EMERICK (FEATURED COLUMNIST) ON FEBRUARY 9, 2012

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1059429-kobe-bryant-why-the-black-mamba-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-the-nba

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No, I'm not a Kobe hater. I've got serious respect for the Black Mamba and what he's done in the NBA, but I still think that he's hands down the most overrated player who's playing in the league today.

Kobe isn't having a bad year, averaging 29.3 PPG, 5.8 RPG and 5.4 APG with a PER of 25.47, but there's more to those statistics than meets the eye.

Sure, Kobe's leading the league in scoring, but he's doing so by also leading the league in field-goal attempts with a whopping 599 on the year. Just to help put that number into perspective, the next closest player to Kobe is sharp-shooter Kevin Durant, who's put up 494 field-goal attempts on the year.

The absurd amount of shots that Kobe's jacked up this year wouldn't be an issue if the Lakers were dominating their competition, but they're not—which is in large part due to the offensive production that Kobe takes away from other players on the Lakers roster, like Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol.

In addition to taking offensive production away from his teammates, Kobe's crazy amount of field-goal attempts is an issue because he's shooting at 44.4 percent from the field this year, which isn't anything to call home about.

Kobe's field-goal percentage of 44.4 ranks 70th overall in the NBA this season, which is a pretty low percentage and subsequent ranking for a guy who many consider to be the best player in the league today.

I'm not saying that the Black Mamba is overrated, solely because he's jacked up the most shots in the NBA thus far, while hitting only 44.4 percent of them. The major reason why Kobe is the most overrated player in the NBA, is because the way he plays the game is focused more on his personal production than on helping the Lakers win games.


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If you ask Kobe, I'm sure he'll say that he's all about helping his team win games and ultimately winning NBA championships, but the reality is that the way he plays the game doesn't match up with that perspective.

Kobe is at the point in his career where he needs to realize he's not the same player he once was. He can't single-handedly lead the Lakers to an NBA championship and, luckily for him, he doesn't have to.

The Lakers don't have the deepest roster in the NBA, but they do have one of the most impressive trios in the NBA in Kobe, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. The more Kobe centers the Lakers' offensive production around himself, the more opportunities he takes away from two extremely capable players in Bynum and Gasol.

It's time for Kobe to realize that the Lakers don't need him to be the player he once was, scoring 35-plus points a night. Kobe needs to realize that the Lakers need him to be a more complete player, integrating his teammates into the offensive more than he currently his—until he does, the Lakers will continue to struggle and Kobe will continue to be overrated.

When you're hyped as the best player currently in the NBA, you've got to back that up by helping your team win—the way Kobe is playing so far this year isn't doing that on a consistent basis.

In a recent interview with ESPN's Bill Simmons, Larry Bird picked Kobe over LeBron James when he was asked about which former NBA MVP he'd rather play with. Not so fast though, as Larry Legend also had this to say about Kobe:

"Well I'd probably take Kobe, because of the fact that ... well, of course he wouldn't have been shooting as much as he does now."

Without directly saying it, Larry implies the same thing that I've been saying throughout this whole article: that Kobe shoots too much (well, at least a little too much). Larry would only want Kobe as his teammate if he shot the ball less, because Larry realizes that while Kobe has a winner's mentality, he's focused on his own production just a little too much.

Kobe's still stuck in the "I'm the best player in the world" mentality, which results in him forcing shots and hogging offensive possessions because he trusts himself more than he trusts his teammates. A year or two ago, that wasn't a problem because the Lakers were winning, but this year it's a different story with the Lakers sitting at a disappointing 14-11 overall.

Kobe buys into the hype built around him: that he, the Black Mamba, is the most deadly offensive talent in the NBA. While that might be true, it's not what the Lakers need him to be.

The Lakers need Kobe to be a more complete player by facilitating the game to his teammates rather than relying purely on his own talents. Until Kobe manages to do that, he'll continue to be the most overrated player in the NBA.

Kobe needs to realize that being the best doesn't just mean moving up the ranks of the all-time scoring leaders or averaging near 30.0 PPG.

Being the best means finding ways to help your team win, and that's what Kobe needs to start doing. If he fails to do that this year, the Black Mamba will continue to be the most overrated player in the NBA.


Looking back on his career, I'm starting to realize that dude is wildly overrated. He has never elevated his teammates games and he makes some bonehead plays in the pursuit to get his.

Thoughts?
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You just did it Goldenchild, you really just did this?
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dude is 17 years in and having the best year of his career...

 

 

 

aint nothing overrated about the man....

 

 

 

 

never saw people try so hard to hate on greatness...

 

 

only on NT are people like kobe and peyton downplayed...just enjoy history in the making and be grateful that were all here to watch it...

 

 

overrated?? lmao..haha...foh

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Looking back on his career, I'm starting to realize that dude is wildly overrated. He has never elevated his teammates games and he makes some bonehead plays in the pursuit to get his.
Thoughts?

 dude took a team to the finals with dfish and vladimir radmonivic starting...lol...

 

vladimir radmonivic was guarding paul pierce people...lmao...

 

haters gon hate tho.

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Don't get me wrong, he's one of the most talented perimeter players in league history but the MJ comparisons and the way he's ranked ahead of other greats like Magic and even Shaq....I don't see it.

People crucify players like Iverson and Carmelo when they pretty much have the same impact on the game and flaws as Kobe.

He has been blessed with one of the most dominant big men ever, the greatest coach ever and in the second half of his career, close to and All-Star starting lineup....take all that away and he's just another All-NBA player, not a top 10 payer ever IMO.

What makes him individually, that much greater than say....Paul Pierce?
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is kobe overrated?

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post #9 of 3814
just as overrated as his 81 point game laugh.gif
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Looking back on his career, I'm starting to realize that dude is wildly overrated. He has never elevated his teammates games and he makes some bonehead plays in the pursuit to get his.

Thoughts?
 dude took a team to the finals with dfish and vladimir radmonivic starting...lol...

vladimir radmonivic was guarding paul pierce people...lmao...

haters gon hate tho.

Fisher has been in the Finals 8 times....and that team also had prime Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol and was coached by the best coach in history.

They still lost in 6 games and got blown by 39 in the close out game.

Iverson and Bron lead worse teams to the Finals and people are still quick to point out every flaw in their game and downplay those achievements.

Yet Kobe gets a pass.
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No.

Now mods please lock this up before we have 30 pages of nonsense.
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Seriously.
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Great scorer but one of the most overrated NBA players ever IMO.
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Kobe haters are the worst. You got to be raw as f**k to have people hate on you like this

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Great scorer but one of the most overrated NBA players ever IMO.

Like Kanye in that moment, you made a terrible judgement.
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I can't believe what I have just read after reading OP's post.

Literally, did dis dude just did this?

LMAO wait, isn't that article from a year ago? ***** OP
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Hater this, hater that.

No one saying anything to refute the facts though.

Is Kobe better than Hakeem to y'all?

Kobe's rings have blinded a lot of people to his weaknesses as a player and his all time ranking IMO.
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Here is the difference between Kobe and all the other wack players mention like lebron and Paul pierce...... 5rings 81 points
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Let's me ask you this Golden Child, just so I can see where you think he should be rated

Where does Kobe rank as All-Time SG?

Where does Kobe rank among all Players All-Time?
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Lebron fan paradise

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in shooting guards all time I rank the mamba at number 3 ( F@&$ D-wade) and all time players

All time players top 5
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Because like GA said, this thread comes up every year. You really wants fact to refute it, just go search for the old threads. Everyone is tired of this stupid topic. No one is gonna respond, especially today. You really expect a spirited debate on a topic that has been rehashed over and over and over again?
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one of the most disrespected greats
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I dont feel as Kobe is an over rated player, just a bad team mate, that's my biggest grip on dude. Kobe will go down as the second vbest gurad after Jordan, no matter if he goes on to win 2 more. Because unlike Michael, Kobe doenst make his team mates better, as well as he lost two championship series.
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Written by the same "columnist" 10 months later...
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Legends of the NBA: 25 Best Players of the 2000s

BY PETER EMERICK (FEATURED COLUMNIST) ON OCTOBER 1, 2012


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1350566-legends-of-the-nba-25-best-players-of-the-2000s/page/27

1. Kobe Bryant, SG, L.A. Lakers

2000s Stats: 28.2 PPG, 5.9 RPG, 5.2 APG, 1.7 SPG, 45.7 FG%

Years Played in 2000s: 2000-2009 (10 Seasons)

Notable Achievements in 2000s: Four-time NBA Champion, 2009 NBA Finals MVP, 2008 NBA MVP, 10-time NBA All-Star, Three-time NBA All-Star Game MVP, Two-time NBA Scoring Champion, Seven-time All-NBA First Team, Two-time All-NBA Second Team, 2005 All-NBA Third Team, Six-time NBA All-Defensive First Team, Two-time NBA All-Defensive Second Team

Much like the 1990s were absolutely dominated by Michael Jordan, the 2000s were dominated in the same way by Kobe Bryant.

Kobe benefited from playing alongside one of the best centers to ever play the game, but he proved that he could lead a team by himself to the NBA's promised land when he led the L.A. Lakers to the 2009 NBA title.

Kobe's success wasn't earned overnight and it wasn't a natural gift. It was a product of hard work and studying the game. When it came to being a cerebral player, there was no better player in the game than Kobe. He outsmarted his defenders and he constantly broke down defenses by understanding where their weaknesses were.

His confidence also put him on a whole different level than most other players during the 2000s. He was never afraid to take big shots, and he never backed down from any obstacle that stood in his way of obtaining greatness.

Kobe was without a doubt the best player of the 2000s, and he could very well be the greatest player in the history of the game.
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I don't like Kobe but I respect his game. He is by far the best player since MJ. It's been a privilege to watch him in person

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