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post #2011 of 3814
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^ Ska, is Kobe overrated?

post #2012 of 3814
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^

= "I really want to say something, but have nothing intelligent or valuable to say."

'Overrated' doesn't mean 'sucks'.

Some argue Kobe as GOAT, some top 3 or 5... and MANY disagree w/ that. If he realistically belongs in the top 10-15 and a ton of people have him in the top 1-5, then the argument can definitely be made that he is RATED OVER (swidt?) what he should be rated.

Hence the thread, a pretty large and popular one, I might add.

Doesn't mean he sucks, though.


Um you might as well called me a "hater" if you just want to throw out silly remarks because I choose not to continue in such a ridiculous thread.  I actually added alot of "intelligent and valuable" things probably 80 pages ago.  Thats whats sad about the thread. Its gone this long and the same people are beating the same dead horse.  But don't let me stop you....carry on

post #2013 of 3814

Welp.  Ska you can sit in your ivory tower and hate on Kobe's methods all you want, but the one's who matter recognize that his system works.

 

 

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post #2015 of 3814
Kobe ever shoot 93% for 31? Just a random question
post #2016 of 3814
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post #2017 of 3814
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30K+ Points scored
17 seasons in the NBA
Career 25.5 ppg

That's better than what you posted if we aren't being biased.
No it's not! laugh.gif

First off, those last 3 Kobe item just shows you were trying to build a list that was longer than Magic's, regardless of what is on the list. Might as well also add that Kobe wore 2 numbers and Magic only wore one. Put that Kobe went from fro to bald. That counts, right? Also had a signature line with 2 major sneaker companies. smokin.gif Moving on...




 

 

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I didn't say total points don't matter, though. So there's that.

 

Also didn't say that Kobe's HS award doesn't matter but Magic's NCAA championship does matter. So there's that. (What I said was that NEITHER matter in terms of the Lakers, but if we're going to include them, then obviously a college championship trumps a HS award; disagree? Feel free... but don't say I said one doesn't count and the other one does.)

 

You mentioned that Kobe is a top 5 scorer... then asked if Magic is a top 5 assist guy... AS IF IT'S NOT PLAINLY STATED IN MY VERY RESPONSE YOU QUOTED. laugh.gif Yes, Magic's a top 5 assist guy. #4, champ.

 

Thanks for playing.

 

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The large print in the first quote is saying total points don't matter. "regardless of what's on the list"....You've gone back on what you said so many times it's ridiculous. And if nothing besides what's done in a Laker uni matter, how does Magic have the advantage? Playing what? What's RIF?

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post #2018 of 3814
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Kobe demanded to be traded to the Clippers......................................................... roll.gif

A Little Bird Said Magic Advised Him To Request A Trade To Force Management Into Improving The Team. nerd.gif
post #2019 of 3814
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post #2020 of 3814
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A Little Bird Said Magic Advised Him To Request A Trade To Force Management Into Improving The Team. nerd.gif

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post #2021 of 3814
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Most shots attempted, NBA history.


Kareem 28,307
Malone 26,210
MJ 24,537
Hayes 24,272
Havlicek 23,930

Kobe 23,720


You were saying?

So, the dudes that take the most shots, score the most points, is that how that works? laugh.gif

I always thought Kobe was just given point totals like they do in pinball or some ****. roll.gif


Oh hey, remember, Kobe, 17+ years, MJ, 13+ years. 24500+ in less years than Kobe at 23700 huh? Oh. Should you mention that, or should I?

eek.gif So how does an efficient scorer like Kobe still hold the record for most missed shots if he isnt even in the top 5 in attempts?
post #2022 of 3814

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post #2023 of 3814
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Most shots attempted, NBA history.


Kareem 28,307
Malone 26,210
MJ 24,537
Hayes 24,272
Havlicek 23,930

Kobe 23,720


You were saying?

So, the dudes that take the most shots, score the most points, is that how that works? laugh.gif

I always thought Kobe was just given point totals like they do in pinball or some ****. roll.gif


Oh hey, remember, Kobe, 17+ years, MJ, 13+ years. 24500+ in less years than Kobe at 23700 huh? Oh. Should you mention that, or should I?

eek.gif So how does an efficient scorer like Kobe still hold the record for most missed shots if he isnt even in the top 5 in attempts?

Where do you see it say efficient scorer? Who claimed him to be that?

And pretty sure he has more missed because he is playing outside unlike Kareem, Malone and Hayes who play under the hoop. In fact the top 15 guys in terms of made field goals are all big men, outside of MJ, Kobe, and Havlicek.

Guards shoot further awyay, so they should miss more shots than guys that play next to the rim, correct?
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post #2024 of 3814
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Where do you see it say efficient scorer? Who claimed him to be that?

And pretty sure he has more missed because he is playing outside unlike Kareem, Malone and Hayes who play under the hoop. In fact the top 15 guys in terms of made field goals are all big men, outside of MJ, Kobe, and Havlicek.

Guards shoot further awyay, so they should miss more shots than guys that play next to the rim, correct?
Nope. Kobe is the only guard in the top 5 of most missed shots.

I mean if people are so quick to bring up he has 30k points wouldn't it be as important to add that he has missed the most shots in NBA history without even being in the top 5 in attempts?
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Where do you see it say efficient scorer? Who claimed him to be that?

And pretty sure he has more missed because he is playing outside unlike Kareem, Malone and Hayes who play under the hoop. In fact the top 15 guys in terms of made field goals are all big men, outside of MJ, Kobe, and Havlicek.

Guards shoot further awyay, so they should miss more shots than guys that play next to the rim, correct?
Nope. Kobe is the only guard in the top 5 of most missed shots.

I mean if people are so quick to bring up he has 30k points wouldn't it be as important to add that he has missed the most shots in NBA history without even being in the top 5 in attempts?

I don't know, he's 6th, is 5th to 6th so important? laugh.gif

He takes, makes, and misses a lot of shots over 17 years. And?

Everyone that has 30K points, has a lot of takes, makes and misses. I'm not seeing a point here. laugh.gif

Kobe has the most misses, ok. Congrats?
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post #2026 of 3814
^ Downplaying his inefficiency, but never when it comes to 30k points. Just in case you werent aware 4 other players have scored 30,000 points. But no one has many missed shots as Kobe. Atleast hes #1 on the list at something nthat.gif
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post #2027 of 3814
Him being in the top 5 all time in points and being #1 in missed shots all time while not being top 5 in attempts while playing more seasons than everyone but Kareem (and still going) it makes his 30k seem somewhat average doesn't it?

Oh look

http://wagesofwins.com/2012/12/06/how-kobes-all-time-record-is-average/
post #2028 of 3814
Still cant get his team over .500.

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post #2029 of 3814

Lol this thread....i think it's a wrap for Kobe but I wouldn't call him overrated.

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post #2030 of 3814
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Still cant get his team over .500.

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Averaged 10+ assists and shot less = wins

But it seemed Kobe would rather shoot than win going back to the "Kobe System"
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Average. laugh.gif

So Kobe is the least efficient of Kareem, Karl, MJ, and Wilt.....oh the shame. laugh.gif
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post #2032 of 3814
the debate here is that kobe is overrated in the sense that people place him as the top 5 ever, when reality kobe is a top 15 player and his position in between the 6-15 spot.
TOP 5 in no order, MJ, Magic, bird, kareem, wilt,

personally i feel like his in top 10 for sure where in the order of

hakeem, shaq, timmy dr.j then kobe.
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the debate here is that kobe is overrated in the sense that people place him as the top 5 ever, when reality kobe is a top 15 player and his position in 6-15.
TOP 5 in no order, MJ, Magic, bird, kareem, wilt,

personally i feel like his in top 10 for sure where in the order of

hakeem, shaq, timmy dr.j then kobe.


6-15 at his position?

 

name 5-10 shooting guards better than kobe.

post #2034 of 3814
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Naw man, he's saying that Kobe slots into top 6-15 all time. Not at SG, his position being whatever number you give him 6 thru 15. I think you misread bro. laugh.gif
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post #2035 of 3814

WELL TELL HIM TO SPEAK MORE CLEARLY!!!!!!

 

nah, i get it now.

post #2036 of 3814
45-60, Drexler, Parker.

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I'm not drinking anything, but if I were, I would have just spit it out all over my living room just now.
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post #2038 of 3814

dude has 1 post. made a new account just to troll.

 

Out him Ska!!!

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Is the Kobe system German engineered? Without the German touch which many have viewed in the same group as fresh blood transfusions (lance armsterong) would he still be playing at the level he is? Who cares if the fda approves of Regenokine had that been around back then many of the greats would have played till they were 50. Larry bird wouldn't have to retire because of his back.
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Is the Kobe system German engineered? Without the German touch which many have viewed in the same group as fresh blood transfusions (lance armsterong) would he still be playing at the level he is? Who cares if the fda approves of Regenokine had that been around back then many of the greats would have played till they were 50. Larry bird wouldn't have to retire because of his back.

 

what does his knee procedure have to do with people considering him overrated?

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