Yo NT! Me and my Pops just got fired Vol: FeelsBatman

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Only fool I saw on here is PowerBallin. :tongue:

But what did your father say to you when you cussed your superiors out? Curious!
 
Jordman23 said:
^^ That is a very valuable piece of information. You are right, I see what you mean. That gives them more ammo in court, and would hurt my credibility. Since you work in HR, what options or tips would you have about this situation? And on monday we have to pickup all the papers and documentation to present to the union. So i'm planning to audio record the last conversation and have them say something incriminating on tape. I obviously will not speak out of line on Monday.
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First you have to retain a lawyer that's even willing to accept your recording as "evidence", you and your dad can LEGALLY ask for copies of original agreements you've signed. Problem is, and most likely this will be the case, if they're an LLC you've probably signed a "AT WILL STATUS"  document meaning they can fire you without reason. A few states have a policy that implies exceptions, New York has one.

Really there is nothing you can do at this point but ask for the documents and present them to the lawyer, and PRAY he retains the case if he finds any violations.


If you want some simple revenge, start blog, do write ups LOCALLY on the establishment and make sure your name can be referenced for credibility with media sources. Call the local news, they usually have an investigative reporter that may look into your case and expose their practices.

Yelp and Zagat ...use your REAL NAME it may come in use later.


From a financial standpoint I highly doubt you're gonna get a settlement from the company, and if you do the price of the lawyer will outweigh your settlement agreement when it's all said and done.


Play it smooth and get those documents by law they have to give you a copy, either at hiring or upon request.


Good luck
 
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First off that Footlocker pic with Tommy Strawn was not me
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Second my first post was "he embarrased himself and his father" and dude got mad.  So I responded.  Sorry if the truth hurts.  You can't react like that in the real world.  You not gonna get props for going "Pesci" on your boss at a partime job.  Grow up.
 
PowerBallin said:
First off that Footlocker pic with Tommy Strawn was not me
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Second my first post was "he embarrased himself and his father" and dude got mad.  So I responded.  Sorry if the truth hurts.  You can't react like that in the real world.  You not gonna get props for going "Pesci" on your boss at a partime job.  Grow up.
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Am I not reading the same thing you're reading?

Look on the first page:

FIRST you tell him "He needs a whooping" (Surprise, surprise, you left that part out huh)

NEXT op simply responds "Whooping for what? Not selling out my father?" (You consider that getting mad?)

THEN you respond saying "Yall need the money" (Sounds like YOU ARE MAD)

So in other words you're responses were all disrespectful and offensive from the jump, get out of here with that "I just responded and he got mad" crap.

You're the one who needs to grow up
 
The Nomad said:
First you have to retain a lawyer that's even willing to accept your recording as "evidence", you and your dad can LEGALLY ask for copies of original agreements you've signed. Problem is, and most likely this will be the case, if they're an LLC you've probably signed a "AT WILL STATUS"  document meaning they can fire you without reason. A few states have a policy that implies exceptions, New York has one.


Really there is nothing you can do at this point but ask for the documents and present them to the lawyer, and PRAY he retains the case if he finds any violations.



If you want some simple revenge, start blog, do write ups LOCALLY on the establishment and make sure your name can be referenced for credibility with media sources. Call the local news, they usually have an investigative reporter that may look into your case and expose their practices.


Yelp and Zagat ...use your REAL NAME it may come in use later.



From a financial standpoint I highly doubt you're gonna get a settlement from the company, and if you do the price of the lawyer will outweigh your settlement agreement when it's all said and done.



Play it smooth and get those documents by law they have to give you a copy, either at hiring or upon request.



Good luck
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Yea that was what I was thinking. I'm seriously plan to do something. I told my dad to call Arnold Diaz or Help Me Howard :lol:. I want to bring bad publicity to that building. And I even thought of picketing outside with signs, but I don't want to hurt the case by being detrimental. For now, we just have to play it cool and talk to a lawyer. My aunt is a lawyer, but she practices Immigration. So hopefully she has some strings she can pull to avoid lawyer fees. I certainly am going to ask for a copy of every single document that they have. My dad refused to sign the termination letter, so I assume he did right by doing that. We will look into those "At Will Status", because supposedly the union had negotiated a contract for all the employees.
 
Johnny cakes said:
PowerBallin said:
First off that Footlocker pic with Tommy Strawn was not me
laugh.gif


Second my first post was "he embarrased himself and his father" and dude got mad.  So I responded.  Sorry if the truth hurts.  You can't react like that in the real world.  You not gonna get props for going "Pesci" on your boss at a partime job.  Grow up.
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Am I not reading the same thing you're reading?

Look on the first page:

FIRST you tell him "He needs a whooping" (Surprise, surprise, you left that part out huh)

NEXT op simply responds "Whooping for what? Not selling out my father?" (You consider that getting mad?)

THEN you respond saying "Yall need the money" (Sounds like YOU ARE MAD)

So in other words you're responses were all disrespectful and offensive from the jump, get out of here with that "I just responded and he got mad" crap.

You're the one who needs to grow up
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Ehh I'm sure he dad was disappointed in his actions tho
 
Powerballin attempting lulz I could never attempt. Kudos bruh
 
Jordman23 said:
Wawawowee said:
Too few people stand up for themselves.

Most people felate others' knobs their entire lives because they "don't want to burn bridges" or "have references". Guess what? They still end up being ****** over.

If you're wronged and don't care for that bridge then you have every right to let somebody know that they've ****** you over.
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^^ Yea exactly, people on here telling me I should have stayed working. Are you kidding me?

And whose to say I wouldn't be the next one to get fired? I'd rather go out my way. And tell them to their faces. Everyone talks crap about their bosses behind their back, but I told them to their faces. I told them to look at my face when I was speaking to them. Man it was something out of a movie.
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OP, im not faulting you for leaving your gig to stand by your father. You got beliefs that you are willing to sacrifice for and that is commendable.

That being said, walking in there and cussing everyone out, demanding that they look at your face or whatever, and basically losing your cool like that is classless and unprofessional. Obviously you are entitled to go out "your way" but that doesnt make it right. You can quit with dignity.

Just because some people may not agree with you on this thread doesnt mean that we are some pushover betas that let the world walk all over us.
 
PowerBallin said:
Ehh I'm sure he dad was disappointed in his actions tho
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Says the guy who back stabbed his friend by sabotaging a job interview that you were both competing for that he found for you!

Get a life, you are a loser. Your opinions are awful and you are a scumbag.

NOT POWER BALLIN!

Loyalty > *****
 
Mojodmonky1 said:
OP, im not faulting you for leaving your gig to stand by your father. You got beliefs that you are willing to sacrifice for and that is commendable.
That being said, walking in there and cussing everyone out, demanding that they look at your face or whatever, and basically losing your cool like that is classless and unprofessional. Obviously you are entitled to go out "your way" but that doesnt make it right. You can quit with dignity.
Just because some people may not agree with you on this thread doesnt mean that we are some pushover betas that let the world walk all over us.
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What does dignity get OP in this instance?
 Quitting with dignity is warranted when the you're being let go or leaving under fair conditions. Sometimes relationships just don't work out and that's OK.

In this instance, OP's management, just doesn't give two *****. They didn't even have the dignity to tell his father that they fired him simply because they can get someone cheaper. Management like that is  just looking out for it's own ***. Plain and simple. They pull themselves up by pushing someone down.

I'm only in my mid 20's but I've seen this type of managerial mentatily all too often. People like that are scumbags and the only way to deal with them is to treat them as such.

I understand that people have bills to pay and can't always express how they feel. However, if you can afford to express how you feel in instances like this than you should.
 
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Wawawowee said:
Mojodmonky1 said:
OP, im not faulting you for leaving your gig to stand by your father. You got beliefs that you are willing to sacrifice for and that is commendable.

That being said, walking in there and cussing everyone out, demanding that they look at your face or whatever, and basically losing your cool like that is classless and unprofessional. Obviously you are entitled to go out "your way" but that doesnt make it right. You can quit with dignity.

Just because some people may not agree with you on this thread doesnt mean that we are some pushover betas that let the world walk all over us.
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What does dignity get OP in this instance?

 Quitting with dignity is warranted when the you're being let go or leaving under fair conditions. Sometimes relationships just don't work out and that's OK.


In this instance, OP's management, just doesn't give two *****. They didn't even have the dignity to tell his father that they fired him simply because they can get someone cheaper. Management like that is  just looking out for it's own ***. Plain and simple. They pull themselves up by pushing someone down.


I'm only in my mid 20's but I've seen this type of managerial mentatily all too often. People like that are scumbags and the only way to deal with them is to treat them as such.

I understand that people have bills to pay and can't always express how they feel. However, if you can afford to express how you feel in instances like this than you should.
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dignity is for himself, not for management, or anyone else for that matter. again, everyone is entitled to do what they want. personally, i try to hold myself to a higher standard, and not get all out of pocket and lose my cool (i try and fail miserably sometimes, but i do try).

as far as management giving 2 damns. of course they dont. thats business. the business world is ruthless and unkind. as the old saying goes, its not personal, its just business. is in the company's best interest to let the father go and hire someone who is equally capable and willing to work for less pay.
 
Mojodmonky1 said:
dignity is for himself, not for management, or anyone else for that matter. again, everyone is entitled to do what they want. personally, i try to hold myself to a higher standard, and not get all out of pocket and lose my cool (i try and fail miserably sometimes, but i do try).
as far as management giving 2 damns. of course they dont. thats business. the business world is ruthless and unkind. as the old saying goes, its not personal, its just business. is in the company's best interest to let the father go and hire someone who is equally capable and willing to work for less pay.
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Idk. My definition of dignity is not someone keeping their mouth shut when he hasn't much to lose anyway since they already screwed him over.

If only business was all about business. It's be black and white and easy to navigate. But business isn't solely about business and everyone has encoutered the dirty side. Politics, backstabbing, nepotism, favoritism, etc. If only business was all about business.

This is just a symptom of a wider problem.
 
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I would have done the same. Hope you and your pops get better jobs
dont let the hate in this thread get to your head
:pimp:
 
Wawawowee said:
Idk. My definition of dignity is not someone keeping their mouth shut when he hasn't much to lose anyway since they already screwed him over.

If only business was all about business. It's be black and white and easy to navigate. But business isn't solely about business and everyone has encoutered the dirty side. Politics, backstabbing, nepotism, favoritism, etc. If only business was all about business.

This is just a symptom of a wider problem.
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i guess its just a difference of opinion.

again, im not saying he shoulda kept his mouth shut. if he felt s strongly about it (which it seems he did) he could have expressed his position without flying off the handle like that and degenerating into a screaming cussing machine.
 
Wawawowee said:
Idk. My definition of dignity is not someone keeping their mouth shut when he hasn't much to lose anyway since they already screwed him over.

If only business was all about business. It's be black and white and easy to navigate. But business isn't solely about business and everyone has encoutered the dirty side. Politics, backstabbing, nepotism, favoritism, etc. If only business was all about business.

This is just a symptom of a wider problem.
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^^ Yea exactly my point. Dignity for management? Why the hell would I keep my mouth shut and respect them? They didn't have the balls to at least tell him that they were firing him, they hid back and blamed it on the board of directors. Which is totally untrue because it's management behind this.


How do you expect me not to lose my cool? My father worked 15 years for a company, the new management ousted him like a piece of dirt. I have no regrets, and to people who are saying I was out of line, scumbags need to be out in their place. I wasn't going to stay shut.
 
Jordman23 said:
Wawawowee said:
Idk. My definition of dignity is not someone keeping their mouth shut when he hasn't much to lose anyway since they already screwed him over.

If only business was all about business. It's be black and white and easy to navigate. But business isn't solely about business and everyone has encoutered the dirty side. Politics, backstabbing, nepotism, favoritism, etc. If only business was all about business.

This is just a symptom of a wider problem.
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^^ Yea exactly my point. Dignity for management? Why the hell would I keep my mouth shut and respect them? They didn't have the balls to at least tell him that they were firing him, they hid back and blamed it on the board of directors. Which is totally untrue because it's management behind this.


How do you expect me not to lose my cool? My father worked 15 years for a company, the new management ousted him like a piece of dirt. I have no regrets, and to people who are saying I was out of line, scumbags need to be out in their place. I wasn't going to stay shut.
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So why did you even make this thread and put up a poll? If you're satisfied with your actions, cool. There may or may not be consequences down the road.

I don't care about the dignity aspect but some of you don't know the meaning of the word.
 
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I could understand your actions and even why some would say it's commendable. But what I don't understand is after your father told you he was going to fight to get his job back, why would you do something to hurt his chances of doing so? As a matter of fact what happens afterwards if he does get it back ...... how do you think management is going to treat him then? While you probably wished it was your pops giving them a piece of his mind and not you, he understood the endgame in all of this and that is exactly why he kept his cool. Now that's two less incomes for your household and on top of that how exactly are you gonna pay for your school stuff now!
 
fac3 tak30v312 said:
I could understand your actions and even why some would say it's commendable. But what I don't understand is after your father told you he was going to fight to get his job back, why would you do something to hurt his chances of doing so? As a matter of fact what happens afterwards if he does get it back ...... how do you think management is going to treat him then? While you probably wished it was your pops giving them a piece of his mind and not you, he understood the endgame in all of this and that is exactly why he kept his cool. Now that's two less incomes for your household and on top of that how exactly are you gonna pay for your school stuff now!
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I got caught up in the heat of the moment, yes I'm at fault for that. If he ends up winning the arbitration case then management will look bad. Of course they will treat him bad if he gets the job back, but there will be record that my dad works at a hostile environment and they are discriminating against him. There are whistleblower rules against that, and then he would have a case against the company. I need to research the NJ Dept of Labor, and see what can be done.
 
if i was working with my dad and he got fired id quit too no questions asked thats how i am
would i get mad kinda im not gonna be cussing em out and yelling though
 
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