Clyde Frog
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I know NT loves Wide Reciever debates and I figured this was thread worthy. If not so be it.
Is Jerry Rice still the GOAT? If so why?
Someone needs to school me because I wasn't old enough to watch him play in his prime. The question I'm pretty much asking is why is he considered to be better than Moss and Calvin. Calvin is young and it's still early in his career so I'll focus on Moss more even though we know where Calvin is headed.
Is it the stats that make the final decision? Why was he so dominant and what made him more dominant than Randy. I always assumed it was his Route running, sure handeness, ability to go over the middle, and YAC ability.
Randy Moss though just ran straight pass entire defenses, abused DB's no matter how many were stuck to him like glue, and was a TD machine.
The GOAT arguments always confused because I can never tell if either skill or stats hold more weight. So I'm looking for some insight on why the consensus has been Jerry is the best ever.
I feel that having 2 HOF QB's should play a role as well. Moss has not only played
5 years less but has had many wasted years due to terrible QB's. But once he got Brady he shatters the TD record. And he's still top 10 in every category. So how much should stats matter and was Moss more talented.
Focusing on talent is often ignored by numbers I feel. Talent doesn't necessarily always mean a million achievements. Fitzgerald for example could still be considered the best currently but he's forgotten due to obvious reasons. Calvin is the Moss of the next generation. I think we can all agree he'll end up being the GOAT when it's all said and done? Although I will say that I need to see another year or two of him continuing to dominate to say he's better than Moss in his prime.
To conclude I'm pretty much asking who's the most talented, Rice, Moss, or CJ. Ive witnessed Moss and CJ. If its Rice, why? Personally Idc about numbers, they all have good ones for different reasons. Talent is what will matter in my decision.
Is Jerry Rice still the GOAT? If so why?
Someone needs to school me because I wasn't old enough to watch him play in his prime. The question I'm pretty much asking is why is he considered to be better than Moss and Calvin. Calvin is young and it's still early in his career so I'll focus on Moss more even though we know where Calvin is headed.
Is it the stats that make the final decision? Why was he so dominant and what made him more dominant than Randy. I always assumed it was his Route running, sure handeness, ability to go over the middle, and YAC ability.
Randy Moss though just ran straight pass entire defenses, abused DB's no matter how many were stuck to him like glue, and was a TD machine.
The GOAT arguments always confused because I can never tell if either skill or stats hold more weight. So I'm looking for some insight on why the consensus has been Jerry is the best ever.
I feel that having 2 HOF QB's should play a role as well. Moss has not only played
5 years less but has had many wasted years due to terrible QB's. But once he got Brady he shatters the TD record. And he's still top 10 in every category. So how much should stats matter and was Moss more talented.
Focusing on talent is often ignored by numbers I feel. Talent doesn't necessarily always mean a million achievements. Fitzgerald for example could still be considered the best currently but he's forgotten due to obvious reasons. Calvin is the Moss of the next generation. I think we can all agree he'll end up being the GOAT when it's all said and done? Although I will say that I need to see another year or two of him continuing to dominate to say he's better than Moss in his prime.
To conclude I'm pretty much asking who's the most talented, Rice, Moss, or CJ. Ive witnessed Moss and CJ. If its Rice, why? Personally Idc about numbers, they all have good ones for different reasons. Talent is what will matter in my decision.
