Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain | A Hideo Kojima Game

I don't play my consoles as much as I'd like to. I have MGS4, Heavy Rain, all of the Drake's and all of God of Wars to finish

I know that feel. MGS4 turned into a chore to finish for me towards the end. I didn't grow up playing these games on PS1 & 2 so I don't have the love for it as most do.

This series is way too complicated for it's own good. The more I read about it, the more confused I become.
 
All these little "hints" like the Hideo Kojima acronym get me pumped up... but I've learned not to read too much into it, thansk to JJ Abrams and Cloverfield.
 
:smh: Why must Kojima do this to me?

Where is Frank Y... erm... Cyborg Ninja at? Was hoping for more in-depth stories of his past.
 
I went to Moby's site and sent an email to them. Let's see what happens...
 
Wait? When did Kojima and Konami part ways?

Knowing Kojima, this is all a farce, or..

[spoiler = ridiculous assumption]... its a "spin off" in which Snake has lost all memory and given a new name. Technically, New character name - old character history + new developer = new character .[/spoiler]
 
Look up the Twitter for Moby **** CEO Joakim N. Morgren.
This is what you get...



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The account is fake.
 
OH MAN....I remember playing MGS for psx....I am totally behind on what is happening in that vid....is that supposed to be in the past?
 
The trailer has a lot of imagery suggesting that it takes place after MGS3. The horse with the hooded figure riding it recalls The Boss, who Snake kills in the field filled with cherry blossom petals (which can be seen when the character in the trailer wakes up, before he looks at his hook).

So the game could start off with Snake waking up from the cloning stuff and also being tormented by the events of that game (demons that aren't there)
 
After re-watching the Ground Zeroes trailer, a few things made a bit more sense for me. The guy with the burned face in the GZ trailer could very well be the guy who had his entire face bandaged up in the VGA trailer. It also sounds like the burned guy and Big Boss were once allies because in the GZ trailer he tells Chico "send my best regards to your Boss" since he knows BB is going to come rescue him. Also, the guy who had the prosthetic arm in the VGA trailer could very well be Big Boss himself. The faces are similar and given the advanced technology they have shown in the Ground Zeroes trailer, it's not that far fetched to think that Big Boss could have a mechanical arm under that sneaking suit, plus he looks visibly older in GZ, which would have given him time to get said arm.

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It's either not the same guy, or he had his face reconstructed while in the hospital.
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I believe Big Boss is the man in both GZ and PP.

:smh: Why must Kojima do this to me?

Where is Frank Y... erm... Cyborg Ninja at? Was hoping for more in-depth stories of his past.

Some people think the bandaged guy may be Frank Yeager.

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Gear on the soldiers appear to be the same in both Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain suggesting they take place within a shorter time span.

My theory (for now) :


Kojima is overseeing both projects. Kojima Productions is developing Ground Zeroes and it will come out first. ( I say this because GZ has the edge in overall productions values + plus a longer trailer. It seems further along). "Moby D..." is developing Phantom Pain. Based on the trailer, this game's focus is on more psychological/ horror elements. Possibly less gunplay. Ground Zeroes is a more traditional MGS.

Burned face and snake are recovered at the end of GZ and taken to the hospital in PP. Burn face get's a skin graft on his face becoming bandage guy, Snake gets a prosthetic arm. While snake and bandage guy were laid up in that hospital the doctor was going through their brains extracting memories ala Assassins Creed. GZ will be the memories extracted from Snake & bandage guy's brains. That's why you see this effect
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Bandage guy is either burn face or Frank Yeager. burn face guy cannot be Frank Yaeger. My theory assumes bandage guy is not Frank Yeager. The main reason I think it is burn face is because that effect in the GZ trailer is seen when he is on screen. It wouldn't make sense for the doctor to be able to extract burn face's meeting with the boy and getting on the helicopter from snake's brain.
 
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Your theory is good, but It has one flaw. PP comes before GZ, and here's why:

In the GZ trailer, when we see Big Boss's face for the first time, He is visibly older, Gray hair, wrinkles, what have you.
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While in the PP trailer, he looks younger and still has most of his hair color, albeit a few gray hairs in his beard (if that is him).
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Also, in the GZ trailer Miller tells BB "I'm glad to see that age hasn't slowed you down one bit", which adds to the whole BB being older angle.

My guess is that sometime after Peace Walker, BB got caught up in some accident which left him how he appears in PP. In that hospital, he met bandaged face guy and they tried to break out. During the breakout, the hospital caught fire and bandage guy became burned face guy from GZ. They both escaped and some time passed before GZ takes place. My guess during that time, burned guy creates XOF, BB get a new arm, and Chico disappears. For some reason, I also think that the two phantoms that are referenced in the GZ trailer are BB and the burned guy, unless they are talking about the twin snakes which I doubt.

While i'm here, who is this person? It must be an important character, or they wouldn't have shown his face. :lol:
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I might be wrong about the whole timeline. PP might take place before Peace walker, and GZ takes place after. I just read this in the Metal Gear Database:

Big Boss had been raised to a being of Christ-like reverence, but he resented being treated as a puppet for the Patriots' goals. Unbeknownst to Big Boss, Para-Medic (Dr. Clark) had retrieved a sample of his DNA while he had been in a coma, and the Patriots began work on developing a clone in order to keep their "messiah" alive. In 1972, EVA agreed to serve as the surrogate mother for Solid Snake and Liquid Snake. However, Big Boss did not agree to this plan, after finding out this information for himself, and left the group to form his own mercenary army, in opposition to Zero and his Patriots.

In PP, "Big Boss" is waking up from a coma. Then that stuff i mentioned up there happens, but in that gap between PP and GZ, the peace walker incident occurs, along with the creation of XOF. Then, 10 or so days after the Peace Walker incident occurred, the trailer for Ground Zeroes takes place. That explains the aging between PP and GZ.

As for the arm, it could be a psychic implant of some sort, since he still has his arm in Peace Walker.
 
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^ My understanding is that snake's hair looks White in that pic due to the lighting. If you look at the GZ promo pic in the OP, he looks more similar to Snake in PP. As for the wrinkles, I chalk that up to GZ being slightly more polished and thus having more detail at this point.

I think the biggest flaw in my theory is why bandage/burn guy would help snake out of the hospital.

The reason I think GZ happens first is due to the "MGS V" in the Phantom Pain logo. I think it makes more sense for GZ to be before MGS V. Part of my original theory was that MGS is a multi-game story. In that case I could see PP happening before GZ, but there was no hinting at MGS V in the GZ trailer like we see in the PP trailer.
 
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^ My understanding is that snake's hair looks White in that pic due to the lighting. If you look at the GZ promo pic in the OP, he looks more similar to Snake in PP. As for the wrinkles, I chalk that up to GZ being slightly more polished and thus having more detail at this point.
I think the biggest flaw in my theory is why bandage/burn guy would help snake out of the hospital.
The reason I think GZ happens first is due to the "MGS V" in the Phantom Pain logo. I think it makes more sense for GZ to be before MGS V. Part of my original theory was MGS V was a multi-game story. In that case I could see PP happening before GZ, but there was no hinting at MGS V in the GZ trailer.
you might be right about the lighting, but his hair does look gray in a few different shots.
As for the burned guy helping him, the MGS series is plagued with spies, so who's to say that he's not one of them. He might have been planted in there (by the patriots or cipher) to befriend BB/ help him escape and got burned in the process (for the good of his country). They might have been trying to instigate the peace walker incident in order to do whatever they are planning to do in Ground Zeroes.

Also, Kojima don't care about numbered games and chronology. He'll just give it a number and put it wherever he wants in the timeline (like MGS3. :lol:).
 
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If PP is Metal Gear Solid 5, I expect it to take place at a momentous point in the MGS story, or something that makes it seem "bigger" than Ground Zeroes.
 
i honestly dont think this is metal gear solid 5. i think its something else, like a spin off or a set up piece into MGS5

all of your theories are great and make alot of sense but the trailer seems a little too straight forward

of course we can see all the obvious signs, and i think kojima counted on that. some of them are pretty blatant. he may be setting us up

i dont really think he would call this "the phantom pain", and then turn around and be like, "oh nevermind, this is mgs5",

but who knows with this guy. im excited nonetheless
 
Wasn't it said that there would be two games on this current generation before the MGS 5 on the next gen?
 
If PP is Metal Gear Solid 5, I expect it to take place at a momentous point in the MGS story, or something that makes it seem "bigger" than Ground Zeroes.
If my theory pans out, then Phantom Pain is going to take place during the events that lead to Big Boss parting ways with the Patriots (finds out about the Les enfants terribles project) and forming the MSF, While Ground Zeroes is going to take place after the Peace Walker incident.
 
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