Official DragonBall Z Thread. R.I.P Akira Toriyama. You will be missed

My theory is based on the fact that pikkon was able to dismantle frieza and cell at the same time and of course goku washed pikkon. Think about it, they were all dead so just like goku was able to not tire out from lack of ki, neither was cell and frieza. And to whoever mentioned the cell Jr.'s, goku was tired out from fighting cell...

Interested in hearing explanations
 
Dude said Zoloft hahaha as an RN i damn spit out my coffee just now...

" if i cant last one lousy minute...." Where do you think that statement came from? During buu saga...

Even Vegeta would slap you if you think theyre that close..at that time

So i guess not a lot of people know about the ending of the new movie? You dudes are gonna :smh: at goku and jimmies will be rustled for the veg fans
 
Pikkon ain't canon. Anything involving Pikkon ain't real. He's as relevant as all those silly filler episodes they had or Bio Broly.
 
Dude said Zoloft hahaha as an RN i damn spit out my coffee just now...

" if i cant last one lousy minute...." Where do you think that statement came from? During buu saga...

Even Vegeta would slap you if you think theyre that close..at that time

So i guess not a lot of people know about the ending of the new movie? You dudes are gonna :smh: at goku and jimmies will be rustled for the veg fans

Have yet to watch but I read about the ending. What we all have to realize is that this is Goku's story. Everyone else are just back up singers


Pikkon ain't canon. Anything involving Pikkon ain't real. He's as relevant as all those silly filler episodes they had or Bio Broly.

Go ahead and just add Broly period to that. Y'all boys love some canonical episodes but be quick throw Broly in a discussion. If we're talking straight canon, then Ssj3 is the pinnacle of super saiyan. All this Ssj god crap isn't canon either
 
Have yet to watch but I read about the ending. What we all have to realize is that this is Goku's story. Everyone else are just back up singers


Go ahead and just add Broly period to that. Y'all boys love some canonical episodes but be quick throw Broly in a discussion. If we're talking straight canon, then Ssj3 is the pinnacle of super saiyan. All this Ssj god crap isn't canon either

Nah SSJ god is canon. Brody however is not. He doesn't realistically fit anywhere in the story. You mean to tell me they fought Broly just a few days before they fought Cell? Gohan couldn't find it in himself to turn SSJ 2 right there?
 
 
Dude said Zoloft hahaha as an RN i damn spit out my coffee just now...

" if i cant last one lousy minute...." Where do you think that statement came from? During buu saga...

Even Vegeta would slap you if you think theyre that close..at that time

So i guess not a lot of people know about the ending of the new movie? You dudes are gonna
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at goku and jimmies will be rustled for the veg fans
Have yet to watch but I read about the ending. What we all have to realize is that this is Goku's story. Everyone else are just back up singers
 
Pikkon ain't canon. Anything involving Pikkon ain't real. He's as relevant as all those silly filler episodes they had or Bio Broly.
Go ahead and just add Broly period to that. Y'all boys love some canonical episodes but be quick throw Broly in a discussion. If we're talking straight canon, then Ssj3 is the pinnacle of super saiyan. All this Ssj god crap isn't canon either
SSJ God is canon and I said Bio Broly to be extra disrespectful
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Have yet to watch but I read about the ending. What we all have to realize is that this is Goku's story. Everyone else are just back up singers


And i hate them for that ... My dude gohan went from mystic to a ******* nerd... And vegeta suddenly became a ssj god... :smh:
 
Show me a manga where ssj god appeared? Ssj god is not canon.
The word of the gawd Toriyama himself ain't enough anymore?
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Also Whis and Beerus exist in newer chapters of the manga.

It's safe to conclude that if they exist in the manga then SSJ God exists as well. Therefore it is canon. Is that enough for you?
 
And i hate them for that ... My dude gohan went from mystic to a ******* nerd... And vegeta suddenly became a ssj god... :smh:

I use to feel the same way back when I was a Gohan stan, but I've come to realize that dragon ball really is a about Goku's journey from monkey boy from the wilderness to the planets greatest fighter to the protector of the universe. The real problem is people like Gohan got time to shine and then it's just snatched and the character regresses ridiculously.
 
Toriyama gave GT the green light though... Sooooo...

He had been working for like 20 straight years. He went from Dr Slump straight to dragon ball which blew up and kept him working for like 15 straights years. He just wanted to get away from it, he didn't care. GT don't count lol
 
I feel you fam.. I just feel like they went ahead and did this to gohan and buu who i think its not in the new movie ...due to the fact that they didnt bother making a worthy opponent for those two and focused powering up goku and vegeta lol ... So they took the lazy way and turn them to scrubs or not even show them in the movie
 
All this canon not canon talk makes my head hurts

I regret even bringing the subject up. Like I said most confusing expanded universe ever. Movies are considered canon and then taken from canon on a whim
Toriyama gave GT the green light though... Sooooo...

You were just complaining that DBS is dumb because it doesnt fit with the GT timeline now you are throwing shade at GT. Which one is it :lol:
 
 
Toriyama, the creator of the franchise and essentially everything that encompasses it, has confirmed that it's canon.
Toriyama gave GT the green light though... Sooooo...
He didn't actually write the trash
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He just told them they could. Listen.....there's nothing wrong with not being right. It happens to all of us.

But when you're wrong and you're adamant that you're right and you're reaching and grasping and doing everything you can to not admit it.....it's embarrassing.
 
I feel you fam.. I just feel like they went ahead and did this to gohan and buu who i think its not in the new movie ...due to the fact that they didnt bother making a worthy opponent for those two and focused powering up goku and vegeta lol ... So they took the lazy way and turn them to scrubs or not even show them in the movie

I'm with you man. Gohan went from being the baddest dude of my childhood as ssj2 to being a soft high school student and when they finally turn him back to being that dude it's ruined with him dying and eventually going to back to being a little b*tch. Now they have a chance to redeem theirselves and they keep Gohan a b*tch. People forget that Gohan was actually the secondary protagonist of dragon ball. We saw him grow from being a soft *** kid to being the protector of earth to saiyaman smh.
 
Gohan went from being da gawd:

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To a nerdy reject :smh: :

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Dude looks like a straight weenie fam.

Can he even kill a Cell Jr. at this point?

They brought him from king to pauper in the span of an arc.

Dude is so pathetic he can't even go Mystic anymore.

ChiChi should be ashamed. Goku should be ashamed.

Probably gets bullied by Goten at this point.

Forgot Goten also became a weenie.

Bardock wouldn't even claim these Saiyan rejects.

Hell they'd probably lose to Bardock now.

I hope Gohan uses his mystic form as DS but cant say I didnt see this coming. The whole Great Sayaman was corny

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Wasnt he supposed to be in disguise too. Great SAIYAman. Gee i wonder if we could narrow it down
 
He didn't actually write the trash :lol: He just told them they could. Listen.....there's nothing wrong with not being right. It happens to all of us.
But when you're wrong and you're adamant that you're right and you're reaching and grasping and doing everything you can to not admit it.....it's embarrassing.

But I'm not wrong though. As it pertains to the original source material, there is no mention of Beerus or Whis. The Kai's never mentioned it until as of recent. Yes, Toriyama created Beerus and Whis but they are not canon. They aren't in the original 42 volumes, just like Broly or Pikkon even though Toriyama was present for their inception.
 
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