Official DragonBall Z Thread. R.I.P Akira Toriyama. You will be missed

Like I said before. Goku caught up to Vegeta and Goku during the Cell Saga, stopped training, then caught up again in the Buu Saga.

He doesnt train to give others a chance :smokin

Hes the saiyan equivalent of those guys who goes from winter beer belly to 6 pack abs in 6 weeks.
 
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The fact that it's even a debate...

Goku would have washed Gohan in the Buu saga even when he was mystic.
Absolutely not. I don't think you have the proper grasp of how strong mystic Gohan actually was. No amount of experience and training on gokus part could bridge a gap that HUGE in power. It's really not even close. And I'm talking about super sayain 3 goku too. Mystic Gohan was closer to Vegito in terms of power than he is to super sayain 3 goku. Hell, I'd be willing to say the power gap would be so great it would be similar to the fight between goku and bills on king Kai's planet at the beging of battle of the gods.

I'd say in terms of power on the scale of 1-10 goku would fall at a 5, kid buu would be a 8, gotenks would fall at 20, super buu (gotenks absorbed) would be a 25, mystic Gohan would be a 40 and vegito would be a 55.
Stop it. Don't ever talk to me like im a plebeian in this DBZ ****.

After 7 years of doing absolutely nothing and receiving a sudden power boost, somehow that makes up for 7 years of sitting on his ***?
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Doesn't even make logical sense. Goku had the multiplier necessary to match him and the experience of having trained the entirety of that 7 years and more on his belt.

Gotenks at a 20?
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Go back to watching Winx club.
 
An attack that was committed because Goku didn't bother to kill Majin Buu when he had the chance :smh: Gohan deciding to not train anymore, Gotenks "saving" SS3 to make things more dramatic :lol: Buu Saga is full of the Son family making terrible decisions.
 
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Stop it. Don't ever talk to me like im a plebeian in this DBZ ****.

After 7 years of doing absolutely nothing and receiving a sudden power boost, somehow that makes up for 7 years of sitting on his ***? :lol:

Doesn't even make logical sense. Goku had the multiplier necessary to match him and the experience of having trained the entirety of that 7 years and more on his belt.

Gotenks at a 20? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Go back to watching Winx club.

Please in form me on what multiplier goku had at the time of the buu saga that would put him anywhere close to the level of beating super buu or rivaling mystic Gohan? Super sayin 3 gotenks was FAR stronger than super sayain anything goku.

@KingdomFlatbush your input would be nice to because you're far more familiar with the source material than I am.
 
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Stop it. Don't ever talk to me like im a plebeian in this DBZ ****.

After 7 years of doing absolutely nothing and receiving a sudden power boost, somehow that makes up for 7 years of sitting on his ***?
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Doesn't even make logical sense. Goku had the multiplier necessary to match him and the experience of having trained the entirety of that 7 years and more on his belt.

Gotenks at a 20?
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Go back to watching Winx club.
Please in form me on what multiplier goku had at the time of the buu saga that would put him anywhere close to the level of beating super buu or rivaling mystic Gohan? Super sayin 3 gotenks was FAR stronger than super sayain anything goku.

@KingdomFlatbush your input would be nice to because you're far more familiar with the source material than I am.
That Daizenshuu **** is trash, I know exactly what you're more than likely looking at.

Im not about to add notches to dudes belts because they received drastic power-ups to make themselves relevant at particular points in the story.

Gotenks was powerful, but fought and acted like a child. He'd get destroyed.

Gohan spent 7 years doing nothing and only had a good showing because he far outclassed base Super Buu and he was easily enraged. Noticed how after all that effort, the L still came creeping up on him. Cause Gohan.

I'ont wanna hear it.
 
People talk about how great he was instead of how great he is :lol: Son's the biggest example of wasted potential in this entire story.
 
That Daizenshuu **** is trash, I know exactly what you're more than likely looking at.

Im not about to add notches to dudes belts because they received drastic power-ups to make themselves relevant at particular points in the story.

Gotenks was powerful, but fought and acted like a child. He'd get destroyed.

Gohan spent 7 years doing nothing and only had a good showing because he far outclassed base Super Buu and he was easily enraged. Noticed how after all that effort, the L still came creeping up on him. Cause Gohan.

I'ont wanna hear it.

when the gap in power isn't significant I'd agree training and experience can make a huge impact. But you guys are acting like Gohan never learned how to fight and forgot how to even throw a punch. These guys age 3 days in 5 years but suddenly not being active makes them completely useless? That's not the case. Yes goku has more experience, training and knowledge but what I'm saying the power gap is that huge between them. Mystic Gohan dominated super buu, the strongest buu at that point, a buu that accumulated the powers, knowledge and experience of everyone he had absorbed at that point. And Gohan (with all of those years on his a**) still dominated. So explain to me why Mystic Gohan could take on Super Buu (whom up until the point of Gohans arrival was the strongest character in DBZ by a long shot) but wouldn't be able to beat goku who has a fraction of the power of either of them. By your logic people like king kai and master roshi would be able to dominate goku because even though they're weaker they've had arguably decades (thousands of years in king Kai's case) of knowledge and experience over goku. L's given or taken aren't a sign of how powerful the character is. And if you're going to completely disregard the official source material what are we even debating for? I might as well use information from the Pokemon anime to describe why Raditz is actually the strongest person in DBZ.
 
Gohan is the al gore of dbz. he sort of does win on paper but then even a bumbling idiot can wash/dead/body/murk/wash him in real life.
 
Let's start speaking facts. Gohan has defeated a major villain and vegeta hasn't. FOH with the slander. Gohan has told everyone time and time again he wasn't bout that life and has still smacked kufis off. Vegeta has been training his whole life, stealing other ****** chicks to gain access to gravity machines and being cocky for no damn reason what's so ever when he was handed more L's in the android/cell saga then gohan had in the whole series if any...please direct the hate elsewhere
 
Let's start speaking facts. Gohan has defeated a major villain and vegeta hasn't. FOH with the slander. Gohan has told everyone time and time again he wasn't bout that life and has still smacked kufis off. Vegeta has been training his whole life, stealing other ****** chicks to gain access to gravity machines and being cocky for no damn reason what's so ever when he was handed more L's in the android/cell saga then gohan had in the whole series if any...please direct the hate elsewhere
I blame toriyama.
 
Dont worry. By the third saga of DBS all the Vegeta supporters that somehow hate Gohan will be eating their words.

Gohan as a child was a bigger threat to Frieza than Vegeta was.
 



Trunks >>>> Gohan

Hell Kid Trunks >>>> Gohan

Kid Trunks has more heart of fighting than Gohan

This lame ***** was an emotional wreck from start to finish. He said less than 10 sentences that weren't some moody ******** in the entire android/cell saga, including the History of Trunks movie.

Trunks is the lames saiyan on the show
 
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lol people feel the need to take shots at Vegeta and Trunks to make Gohan look better. If he was really as great as y'all think that wouldn't be necessary. What's more, no one says Gohan sucked in the android or cell sagas lol they says he's fallen off since, which he has. This is a fact. Doesn't matter how strong he was at the end of the buu saga, he's gone nowhere since.
 
lol people feel the need to take shots at Vegeta and Trunks to make Gohan look better. If he was really as great as y'all think that wouldn't be necessary. What's more, no one says Gohan sucked in the android or cell sagas lol they says he's fallen off since, which he has. This is a fact. Doesn't matter how strong he was at the end of the buu saga, he's gone nowhere since.

To be fair, the only characters to have gone anywhere since the buu saga was goku and now vegeta.
 
View media item 1551014 Am I the only one here into these?
Was at barnes and noble and saw a picollo figure and bought it on impulse.
Now i got goku, broly, and vegito. Gohan on the way. Plastic crack I tell you. Wish I knew about them earlier. Want vegeta and trunks but resell is [emoji]128567[/emoji]
 
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