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At this point we all need to just be happy that, with an overbearing mother and an absentee/abusive step-father, Gohan managed to make something of himself and has a stable family of his own. Thank God he had a father like Piccolo.
 
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Such a well deserved fade :smokin

The new form looks like the bridge between SSJ and SSJB that I feel like Vegeta might've went through as well.
 
At this point we all need to just be happy that, with an overbearing mother and an absentee/abusive step-father, Gohan managed to make something of himself and has a stable family of his own. Thank God he had a father like Piccolo.

Chill, Goku watched and groomed his children. Gohan, Goten and Vegeta
 
At this point we all need to just be happy that, with an overbearing mother and an absentee/abusive step-father, Gohan managed to make something of himself and has a stable family of his own. Thank God he had a father like Piccolo.

Chill, Goku watched and groomed his children. Gohan, Goten and Vegeta

He didn't meet Goten until the kid was 7 :lol:

You're right when you say he watched Gohan alright

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Watched him get that *** whooped by Cell until Piccolo got wise and called him out on it, and Android 16 stepped in to make that sacrifice.
 
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He didn't meet Goten until the kid was 7 :lol:

You're right when you say he watched Gohan alright

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Watched him get that *** whooped by Cell until Piccolo got wise and called him out on it, and Android 16 stepped in to make that sacrifice.

Goku was dead, how could you hold that against him :lol: and Piccolo was soft. Goku knew Gohan had to be pushed to live up to his potential. Ironic that Gohan hasn't returned to his former glory since the last time Goku oversaw his training...
 
He didn't meet Goten until the kid was 7 :lol:

You're right when you say he watched Gohan alright

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Watched him get that *** whooped by Cell until Piccolo got wise and called him out on it, and Android 16 stepped in to make that sacrifice.

Goku was dead, how could you hold that against him :lol: and Piccolo was soft. Goku knew Gohan had to be pushed to live up to his potential. Ironic that Gohan hasn't returned to his former glory since the last time Goku oversaw his training...

I could have sworn that Goku has a mentor in Other World who allows him to contact people on Earth whenever he pleases and also allows him to view events on Earth and really any other planet in the galaxy, who he could also just ask to watch over his family for him at any time :lol: Goku was also dead because he chose to remain dead, because of some ******** logic about how Earth has only ever been in danger because of him :rolleyes Mystic Gohan>SS2 Gohan and Goku had nothing to do with that so...Furthermore, Gohan reaching SS2 in no way required that Goku send him in unprepared to fight Cell :lol: There's zero logic behind doing that and it nearly saw the entire planet end up as ash if not for 16. Even Goku realized he was wrong after Piccolo called him out. Go ahead and keep making excuses for your patron saint Goku as if he doesn't consistently make bad decisions though :rolleyes

Watched over his children, yet allowed both of them to die when Kid Buu nuked the planet :rofl: Great job.
 
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Had plenty of time to reach SS2, but couldn't bother to check in on his wife and maybe let her know that he was ok and at peace with his death. Son literally decided to stay dead and spoke to everyone about it except for her, leaving her to care, raise, and provide for 2 children on her own without a job :lol: Managed to discover SS3, but couldn't watch over his son to make sure that Gohan kept up with his training or even that he was doing alright as the man of the house :rofl: Terrible, just plain terrible.
 
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let my mans goku be he too busy tryna protect the universe word to this kobe meme

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The Goku being a deadbeat dad debate always has me in tears

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Even though He saved the world countless times

Can't let that lack of parenting go.
 
:rolleyes Goku left the planets protection with his oldest son, pretty sure he was comfortable with him taking care of his own mom. The movies aren't canon BUT they do fit relatively well in the storyline for them not to be. Goku came and had to man Gohan up again for Bojack. Came back and had a turtle hermet wave gathering with his 2 sons at the behest of his youngest son. Your son ain't wanting you back around if your such a bad guy.

Meanwhile, Trunks comes from the future looking for Goku and NOT the father he never knew. Matter of fact Goku's seed raised Trunks...

THENNNN...you got chibi wanting to be around Gohan and Goten all the time when he has a father in his life. His pops sells his soul and risks his life in vain to save the world and chibi is watching Goku reach levels of Super Saiyan that his pops couldn't even obtain after he made a deal with the devil.

Goku is everyone's father. Praise that man.
 
:rolleyes Goku left the planets protection with his oldest son, pretty sure he was comfortable with him taking care of his own mom. The movies aren't canon BUT they do fit relatively well in the storyline for them not to be. Goku came and had to man Gohan up again for Bojack. Came back and had a turtle hermet wave gathering with his 2 sons at the behest of his youngest son. Your son ain't wanting you back around if your such a bad guy.

You admit the movies aren't canon, then go ahead and try to take them into account :lol: Let's go ahead and take GT into account while we're at it, where he abandons his family again to spend time training Uub, a kid he just met. Oh wait, that's the end of Z and he also does this once again without speaking to his wife about such a major decision :lol: Then he does the same. damn. thing. for the third time at the end of GT. :rofl: Face it son, Goku ain't a family man and he's never tried to be. But of course you try to point out Vegeta's faults (Which are many anyways and really provide a terrible comparison) in order to shrug off Goku's :rofl: Just as bad as Superman's fanboys.
 
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Goku knows in the back of his mind, whether the earth blows up or he gets killed on some other planet, if he dies King Kai is cooking for him.

He doesn't care about his family. He just wants to throw them hands
 
You admit the movies aren't canon, then go ahead and try to take them into account :lol: Let's go ahead and take GT into account while we're at it, where he abandons his family again to spend time training Uub, a kid he just met. Oh wait, that's the end of Z and he also does this once again without speaking to his wife about such a major decision :lol: Then he does the same. damn. thing. for the third time at the end of GT. :rofl: Face it son, Goku ain't a family man and he's never tried to be. But of course you try to point out Vegeta's faults (Which are many anyways and really provide a terrible comparison) in order to shrug off Goku's :rofl:

What are we saying here? That Goku is an unfit parent because he gave his son's alpha genetics whether they chose to accept them or not? Goku knows what his seeds were capable of while Vegeta's seed messes up the space-time continuum anytime he's facing a problem. Chi-Chi is the definition of a down chick. She's not sweating Goku cause he's a provider. He goes and saves the world, tussles with alien tyrants, terminator-esque cyborgs, magical fat monsters and gods while she takes care of house and home. She knew what she signed up for and let Goku shoot the club up, TWICE.
 
You admit the movies aren't canon, then go ahead and try to take them into account :lol: Let's go ahead and take GT into account while we're at it, where he abandons his family again to spend time training Uub, a kid he just met. Oh wait, that's the end of Z and he also does this once again without speaking to his wife about such a major decision :lol: Then he does the same. damn. thing. for the third time at the end of GT. :rofl: Face it son, Goku ain't a family man and he's never tried to be. But of course you try to point out Vegeta's faults (Which are many anyways and really provide a terrible comparison) in order to shrug off Goku's :rofl:

What are we saying here? That Goku is an unfit parent because he gave his son's alpha genetics whether they chose to accept them or not? Goku knows what his seeds were capable of while Vegeta's seed messes up the space-time continuum anytime he's facing a problem. Chi-Chi is the definition of a down chick. She's not sweating Goku cause he's a provider. He goes and saves the world, tussles with alien tyrants, terminator-esque cyborgs, magical fat monsters and gods while she takes care of house and home. She knew what she signed up for and let Goku shoot the club up, TWICE.

No, Goku's an unfit parent because he's an unfit parent. Facts. Has nothing to do with genetics or Vegeta.

What you described for Goku isn't a provider it's a fighter :lol: Hence the Son Family needing Mr. Satan to bail them out at the start of Super. The thing about it is that they could actually be loaded for the same reason that Satan is, because fighters can make bank, but Goku isn't interested in money and supporting his family :lol:

Like I said before, keep ignoring Goku's faults as a husband and a father because he also saves the world. Which notably, no one has ever argued against to begin with :lol: Just like no one said Vegeta was a perfect father in comparison. That's the typical tactic of a Goku lover though, let's go ahead and try to shift the focus to other topics or characters so we don't look too closely at Goku :rofl:
 
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She just wants the raw

Bulma missing no meals

That's why chi chi wanted to trade
 
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Black is becoming my favorite villain. I have never seen a villain wash Goku/Vegeta so easily :pimp:
 
The plot is just dumb now. All the explanations make little sense. So Black killed all the gods? Which means Black is stonger than Beerus and Whis? So does that mean he also killed Zeno too? Cuz if all gods are killed then Zeno is gonna have to interfere then right?
Anyway, still enjoying the show.

Say deadbeat dad debate 5 times fast without stumbling and I'll paypal you $10
 
I think they killed all gods of creation meaning the kaioshins not the god of destructions. Black mentioned it already in the manga. But it doesn't explain or mentioned what happened to Whis/Vados or even the king of all.
 
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