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Originally Posted by 216301baller View Post

@power on game point yes to a certain extent ill do something like bump you or when you shoot push your arm..i dont like to lose especially when i had the opportunity to change the game

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post #92 of 126

Idk if you guys run into this, but whenever you have a majority black team playing against a bunch of white guys at like their college court or whatever, they ALWAYS play zone and tend to call things like charges or 3 seconds lol. I find it pretty hilarious. I Also hate buddy ball when you have 2 or 3 butt buddies on the same team and they just pas to each-other and jack up shots.

 

And NY guys do argue calls a lot, and tend to play more iso ball from my experience. In Baltimore, we really don't call fouls. Its a respect thing if you go to the rim and get clearly hacked, the defender gives you the ball and you play on. Some dudes have no code and abuse this, and that's how fights and BS start.

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post #93 of 126
Man yall soft...my dudes yall must not haven't played real streetball
post #94 of 126
Lmao at the clipboard.

Reminds me when I was in seattle and some dude recorded the game and before we ran it back he and his boys huddled around the camera to see what they needed to work on for the 2nd game.
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post #95 of 126
I love how flopping is completely taboo and frowned upon yet ya'll are the same dudes that foul intentionally when its game point, argue foul calls, foul and wait for someone else to call it, wildly jump in the air for blocks knowing that free throws aren't coming to punish your recklessness. What's the difference? You clearly aren't just playing for sport, you're playing to win. No consequences for fouling COMPLETELY changes the game of basketball and dudes take advantage of it constantly.

I'm not about the Divac flopping life but if someone legitimate fouls me, you better believe I'm screaming and throwing my arms up in the air, word to Kobe. I don't even have to say a word, everyone knows its a foul - I just have to sell it so dudes won't argue. If no one calls it, I play on. B4 someone says you'll get laughed at or beat up in "hood" courts or whatever - nah, NO ONE can tell the difference. I don't try and take charges or anything petty like that - but I do want my fouls to be called. I'm not Lebron, I'm not finishing through ridiculous amounts of contact. laugh.gif

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post #96 of 126
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Lmao at the clipboard.

Reminds me when I was in seattle and some dude recorded the game and before we ran it back he and his boys huddled around the camera to see what they needed to work on for the 2nd game.

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post #97 of 126
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Man yall soft...my dudes yall must not haven't played real streetball
This, I've played some PHYSICAL basketball at parks when I used to live in Miami. Then after high school I moved 2 hours north to Palm City (A very quiet, white area) Dudes that I play with here are so soft, calling every little touch foul and often seem intimidated by me, and I'm not doing anything out of the ordinary, just playing ball like I grew up playing.

Playing streetball and organized ball are 2 different things. A little physical defense is ok in streetball, not fouling every time of course, but being physical is fine where I'm from. If I play too physical for you, you should either a) call your fouls, or b) play physical back, I hate when dudes choose c) cry like a little b***h, make no calls and just complain the entire game.
post #98 of 126
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I love how flopping is completely taboo and frowned upon yet ya'll are the same dudes that foul intentionally when its game point, argue foul calls, foul and wait for someone else to call it, wildly jump in the air for blocks knowing that free throws aren't coming to punish your recklessness. What's the difference? You clearly aren't just playing for sport, you're playing to win. No consequences for fouling COMPLETELY changes the game of basketball and dudes take advantage of it constantly.

I'm not about the Divac flopping life but if someone legitimate fouls me, you better believe I'm screaming and throwing my arms up in the air, word to Kobe. I don't even have to say a word, everyone knows its a foul - I just have to sell it so dudes won't argue. If no one calls it, I play on. B4 someone says you'll get laughed at or beat up in "hood" courts or whatever - nah, NO ONE can tell the difference. I don't try and take charges or anything petty like that - but I do want my fouls to be called. I'm not Lebron, I'm not finishing through ridiculous amounts of contact. laugh.gif

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post #99 of 126
yup. theres this one dude who flops all the time. i called him out on it and got into a little shoving match. now, whenever he plays with us, he's decreased his flopping ways laugh.gif

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post #100 of 126
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worst things ive seen are a kid bringing a clipboard for plays for him and his boys and one guy called a shot clock violation
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Reminds me when I was in seattle and some dude recorded the game and before we ran it back he and his boys huddled around the camera to see what they needed to work on for the 2nd game.

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post #101 of 126
I have no problem with people calling fouls if you get fouled. I consider a foul to be when you go up for a layup and when you get hit the ball doesn't get to the rim. If I go up, get hit, and the ball rattles out, I'll let it go.
post #102 of 126
Lets just acknowledge that flopping, illegal screen calling, loose ball fouls, and 3 seconds are "cultural" calls.
post #103 of 126
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I didn't say anything about refs.

I don't get how you're cool with fouling on wide open layups but you're disgusted by exaggerating a foul to make sure people don't argue the call. I'm disgusted by any intentional fouling because no one would do it if there were free throws coming like in real ball. If you're legitimately going for the block and foul that's one thing. If you're just straight fouling because you got beat and want a chance to reset your defense - I think that's much worse than flopping. At least if someone flops, you can argue the call or play on.
post #104 of 126
Anyone feel like they're better at organized ball than street ball due to the structure of the game and the very things we're discussing in this thread (ie charges, drawing contact, etc.)
post #105 of 126
About the whole "we don't call fouls" @#$%...

There have been far too many times I've played with fat dudes with ZERO skill who just ram through defenders to get in for an easy layup indifferent.gif If you try guarding them, they'll just use their shoulder or back to push you off. What are you supposed to do then? I've played pick-up with built dudes who actually know how to play for real, and they never do that @#$%
post #106 of 126
At this stage in my life, where I have a career and a family......I don't play at those places that do those intentional fouls on break away lay ups. I can not afford to be limping or possibly even worse into the office the next day looking like a jack *** over a pick up game of hoop. I understand accidents happen and physicality is part of the game. As a kid it was fun, coming home with bruises a busted lip every so often, scraped up knee or elbow. But those days for me are over with.

I usually will just run pick up with a group of guys that know each other and have that unspoken respect. Meaning, lets have some fun, play hard and make sure we get to go home and not a trip to the ER that night before work the next day.
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post #107 of 126
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At this stage in my life, where I have a career and a family......I don't play at those places that do those intentional fouls on break away lay ups. I can not afford to be limping or possibly even worse into the office the next day looking like a jack *** over a pick up game of hoop. I understand accidents happen and physicality is part of the game. As a kid it was fun, coming home with bruises a busted lip every so often, scraped up knee or elbow. But those days for me are over with.
I usually will just run pick up with a group of guys that know each other and have that unspoken respect. Meaning, lets have some fun, play hard and make sure we get to go home and not a trip to the ER that night before work the next day.


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post #108 of 126
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Originally Posted by mgrand15 View Post

 B4 someone says you'll get laughed at or beat up in "hood" courts or whatever - nah, NO ONE can tell the difference. I don't try and take charges or anything petty like that - but I do want my fouls to be called. I'm not Lebron, I'm not finishing through ridiculous amounts of contact. laugh.gif

*shrug*

I will point and laugh at anyone I see flailing their arms and **** looking like a little ***** *** European basketball player who just felt contact on the basketball court for the first time ever. Looking like a Vlade Divac/Manu Ginobili collabo.

 

I'm not Lebron either, hell I'm not even black, but i'm always going to try to finish. I don't mess with any of that foolishness. If its a foul, the D will call it. Otherwise quit being a little *****

post #109 of 126
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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

Idk if you guys run into this, but whenever you have a majority black team playing against a bunch of white guys at like their college court or whatever, they ALWAYS play zone and tend to call things like charges or 3 seconds lol. I find it pretty hilarious. I Also hate buddy ball when you have 2 or 3 butt buddies on the same team and they just pas to each-other and jack up shots.
Both of these always happen to me. The zone thing is the worst, just play man defense! And it's terrible when those same dudes playing buddy ball, shooting anytime they touch it, let their man go for 5 points on them and think its funny when the team loses.
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post #110 of 126
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Originally Posted by Storm2006 View Post

Anyone feel like they're better at organized ball than street ball due to the structure of the game and the very things we're discussing in this thread (ie charges, drawing contact, etc.)
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post #111 of 126
And if for some reason there is an offensive foul, the defense does not get the ball. Dudes calling charges and push offs then think possession changes. No laugh.gif
post #112 of 126
Flopping is one thing but the other extreme is just as bad, during the summer I play some streetball and I usually go down with a few guys from my team. A few decent players who are used to playing with each other will usually win out in streetball games but this tends to get out of hand when the local street dogs get chippy about loosing 7-0 so things get out of hand real quick when guys start getting physical.

The thing a lot of streetballers dont understand is for half the yr they not gettina good run and guys who play organized ball spend 2-3 eves a week in the winter months training on teams in a gym with structure and routine.

In the summer when the organized ballers take to the streets it often creates tension as some streetballers play with attitude cus they couldn't make it on teams or dropped out of the system. This has been getting out of hand in recent yrs and latley Ive been playing indoor pickup with some of the older club guys - the fouls are just as hard but they older guys are not looking for a fight which is not always the case on the streets.
post #113 of 126
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I will point and laugh at anyone I see flailing their arms and **** looking like a little ***** *** European basketball player who just felt contact on the basketball court for the first time ever. Looking like a Vlade Divac/Manu Ginobili collabo.

I'm not Lebron either, hell I'm not even black, but i'm always going to try to finish. I don't mess with any of that foolishness. If its a foul, the D will call it. Otherwise quit being a little *****

what does that have to do with anything? lmao
post #114 of 126

i was once just guarding this dude who was like 5'5 was not even playing hard d, rased my hand up and he shot it into my hand (0 contact) then ended up calling a foul, i was 18 at the time and guy had to be at least 27. I find the best way to counter scrubs like this is to just laugh in their face, give them the "foul" and go about winning

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post #115 of 126
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I didn't say anything about refs.
I don't get how you're cool with fouling on wide open layups but you're disgusted by exaggerating a foul to make sure people don't argue the call. I'm disgusted by any intentional fouling because no one would do it if there were free throws coming like in real ball. If you're legitimately going for the block and foul that's one thing. If you're just straight fouling because you got beat and want a chance to reset your defense - I think that's much worse than flopping. At least if someone flops, you can argue the call or play on.

thats part of whats so good and different about streetball.  gotta power through and scream and 1 if u really want that game winner.  one of the elements of streetball that seperates the boys from the men.  sounds like your a boy.

post #116 of 126
I hate when you get fouled then yell and one, and it goes in the other team just says "oh you called a foul so it doesn't count"

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post #117 of 126
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thats part of whats so good and different about streetball.  gotta power through and scream and 1 if u really want that game winner.  one of the elements of streetball that seperates the boys from the men.  sounds like your a boy.

Meh, I play hard all game, play actual team defense, play unselfish, only call extra blatant fouls, encourage my teammates and have fun. If screaming on occasion makes me a boy, so be it. no one i play with or against complains. i'm not saying flopping is right but its not as bad as ya'll make it out to be considering the stuff that goes down in these courts sometimes.
post #118 of 126
I was with you grand till the screaming n flopping part
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I hate when you get fouled then yell and one, and it goes in the other team just says "oh you called a foul so it doesn't count"
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Jesus I remember this once incident where we got into a ten min. argument because I said and one and expected the ball back.

Why else would I yell and one? They said i HAD to say foul or it wasn't a foul. tf?

hell is wrong with people?
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Jesus I remember this once incident where we got into a ten min. argument because I said and one and expected the ball back.
Why else would I yell and one? They said i HAD to say foul or it wasn't a foul. tf?
hell is wrong with people?

Nah, and one means you expect it to drop. Call ball or don't say ****.

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Usually if I foul somebody I'll just give them ball.
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