Why do we hate replica dealers so much?

It seems like nowadays, replica dealers care much more about the customers than the authentic dealers. They have been trying their best to make sure that they listen to the replica customers comments and concerns about the products they are buying. Its honestly amazing to me how this lady is telling customers NOT to buy her product or anyone else's until the fixes are made in order to secure quality products to her customers. She shoes all the flaws in the shoes and is honest about it.

I get it, WE as sneaker enthusiasts don't support and don't wear replicas, but there's a huge group of people out there who despise them and at any chance they can get to, knock others for wearing fakes. I'm not supporting either side after watching this video, cause we all know these replica dealers got kids to feed and bills to pay, so they're just trying to hustle to survive. Also on top of that, they really do care about their customers, and its eye opening because they used Youtube as an open forum and platform for their customers to drop insight on what they want to see, and what needs to be fixed in order for them to get the best quality product.

My question is, why do WE as sneaker collectors hate on each other so much, while running to give "the man" so much money, and then down on those who can't afford them so find an alternative? Why do we blame the replica dealers and sites like VMV Inc or Marquee sole for selling "b grades" or "replicas" and then have full arguments online and create so much separation in our sub culture of kicks when a lot of these people are trying to make sure these shoes and class silhouettes are in EVERYONES hands?

After hearing about the people who got killed over the Black/Red XI's, I've really grown to not care if people support replicas or buy early release shoes, etc. Because there's too much at risk nowadays. I've never cared about whats been on the next mans feet, nor have I cared about people who wear fakes or early releases, but I'm beginning to respect these people who are taking more time and respect towards their customers than the fools who take our money every year, raise prices, and refuse to take the necessary precautions and procedures to prevent these types of tragedies such as producing enough pairs or not overhyping product or even keeping prices lower. Before we know it, Jordans will be retailing for over $200 BEFORE tax.

Take my post for what its worth though. I'm not saying I buy fakes or will ever buy fakes. I'm just trying to open some of you guys' eyes up to stop this ignorance I see on Instaram, Twitter, Youtube, and even for message boards. Dudes are hardbody going to war with each other over sneakers. Slandering each others names and putting the next man down because he loves a shoe but can't afford these rape prices we are being charges at RETAIL nowadays. (****, don't get me started on resellers)

I'm not saying "HEY GUYS! LETS BUY FAKES! WE'LL SHOE NIKE AND JB A LESSON! THEY'LL HAVE TO LOWER PRICES AND PRODUCE BETTER QUALITY SHOES AND MAKE ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE!"

Not by any means am I saying that. I'm just saying they we are poisoning ourselves and brainwashing each other to not feel comfortable in our own skin. Dudes don't want to buy cheaper replica alternatives anymore because they don't want to be "put on blast" online or in the streets about their kicks all because a bunch of cats online put them down for it. Then once you get everyone to be against fakes, dudes start shooting each other cause "there ain't know way in hell I'ma be caught in no fakes. **** bruh, I'ma get those kicks even if I gotta take a ***** down for em"...

Maybe these "fakes" as we call them are a necessary evil in order to prevent a much bigger problem. Or as J Cole would call it "Death Over Designer".

These Replica dealers are a necessary evil that can not only help put shoes under EVERYONES tree during the holidays, but it can also help keep someones son at the dinner table on Christmas night as well.

Because someones mother won't have her grail next tuesday.

If these people are what it takes for there to be enough pairs to go around for everyone, then I welcome it to the next man who can't afford the authentic thing.

We help poison ourselves, then point fingers at others when tragedy happens.

This **** is getting out of hand.

And thats my 2 cents.

Ah... You're so cool... With your gif that you took more time looking up online than reading my actual post.

I bet you weighed all of your options on google images and just HAD to find the right one to use for this occasion.

Or maybe you have a HDD full of them, and spent the last 3 minutes going through them, which could have actually been used to read instead of post such ignorance.

Hmmmm..... And we wonder why the JB forum fell off...

The replica sites know that they are the underdog trying to win an impossible fight so i would understand their accommodations to their consumer. Along with the fact that it's an illegal business.

You make a good point, but to me it all comes down to They are Fake and I don't want to wear fake shoes, I don't care what other people wear,Id never call someone out for wearing fakes but ill stick with the authentic shoes.

First let me say that I've been lurking these forums for years and have never posted or signed up for that matter.  But after not being able to purchase yet another pair of shoes today I can't believe I might ever consider rocking something fake.  I'm an old head 35 and been rocking Jay's since the OG 5's when I could go to the mall all year and get a pair, now after not being able to first go get them at the mall after waiting in early morning lines and now not even being able to order a pair on a countdown timer I refuse to yet again pay almost double retail on ebay and pray that I'm not getting a fake anyway.  I'm not saying that I agree with fakes but supply and demand will always win out as long as people can't purchase these shoes at a retailer then fakes will make their way into our culture.  It just seems that almost all the releases are turning into quickstrikes now.

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Why not wear fakes/replicas? For me it's simple. Because I generally like to respect design copyrights. As much as I might dislike Nike as a corporation, they still managed to make some incredible designs and I respect that. If you want to talk about purchasing alternate brands and how there's a whole world of sneakers and sneaker companies that genuinely care about their product, their customers, and the impact they're making on the world, then that's a discussion I'd love to have. But I have no respect for someone who just steals someone else's design and passes it off as their own.

well to begin with the quality is awful...you are not going to get better jordans than JORDAN..

call em whatever you want AAA 1:1 or w/e scale they go by now..

FAKE IS FAKE..

it usually also finances some shady ish too...

they are snatching money from the companies by using their name and also those costs are going back to us the consumers of legit products..

counterfeiting does alot of damage besides flooding the market with bogus products some might think are legit..whats to stop someone from trying to pass these off to say a grandmother trying to get her grandson jordans and 100 bux is a hell of a deal for a 200 dollar shoe..

not to mention these shoes feel and also look cheap as hell too..

so while we are at it we should also flood the market with replica tvs to make sure everyone gets a big screen too?? 

and remember since these are replica they wont have to go thru inspections like at sony so when you plug it in it might or might not catch on fire..

it all goes back to that old saying you get what you pay for..

and these replica people are acting like they really care but they've obviously already gotten alot of orders so now they are going telling you get the next batch instead..those mags probably catch on fire too..

I don't do fakes b/c people put tons of hard work into the design only to have the fugazi companies make a profit off of their hard work. I don't clown people for wearing fakes b/c that's their choice. As for big companies not caring about their customers, i think that is a tough judgement to make. I mean they have thousands of thousands of customers. The lady on the video cares about her customers b/c she deals with them more directly, in the same way a mom & pop shoe store cares about their 'store brand' shoe cleaner formula per say, b/c they deal with customers directly. Props to the lady though.

TL;DR: FNL & FTL aren't bad guys, just big companies. Let people do their thing.

my fam knows linda lol. not that i suppport fakes

... because i'm better than that.

i saw this dude at Champs with some fake galaxy foams... we asked him where they came from and he just smiled and kept turning his leg around like it was the home shopping network. we pointed and laughed.

why?

1) he's in a shoe store.
2) whatever it was wrapped with, or the vinyl sticker with the galaxy print was peeling.
3) he really thought he was doing it.
4) they're FAKES.

i love calling them out, as i did with spinner hubcaps and ford trucks with "type R" stickers.

OP how many shoes do you have? Do you really need another whack, low quality albeit 'authentic' replica from JB? So what if they sell retros for $200 - as a consumer you don't have to buy it. Just wear whatever you have and carry on - there are less fortunate people who don't even have shoes to wear. But please do not expect anyone here to condone or support your fake rhetoric.

If u can't afford a bimmer u end up with a Kia! Simple
Honestly now replicas are at an all time high why cuz Jordan retros fly off the shelfs if they even make there, and not all for people to wear but mostly to resell , people see something and think they can make a quick buck everyone wants to come up now not later on , it's the American way it's the culture that's America , it's the only place where we stand inline hopping and wishing we can spend $200 on a $10 shoe , look at other country's where food and clean water are real issues and kids pray and hope to learn and go to school , at the end it's America and its prioritys that are F'd up Not the resellers trying to cater to the newest thing looking to make a quick buck , if there was no market there'd b no replicas

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OP how many shoes do you have? Do you really need another whack, low quality albeit 'authentic' replica from JB? So what if they sell retros for $200 - as a consumer you don't have to buy it. Just wear whatever you have and carry on - there are less fortunate people who don't even have shoes to wear. But please do not expect anyone here to condone or support your fake rhetoric.

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A lot of you clearly have misunderstood my question and the point of my post.

I am saying, why do we as sneaker enthusiasts look down on those who buy fakes and make it harder on ourselves to cop sneakers.
Did I say I supported fakes? No, I clearly stated that I don't. Its obvious that a lot of you struggle with reading comprehension.

I have plenty of sneakers, all of which were paid for in CASH at the mall. The point of my thread wasn't "HEY GUYS LETS BUY FAKES BECAUSE THEY'RE EASIER TO GET"...

Go back and read my original post, and get my real point and message. Because almost everyone who replied showed complete ignorance which obviously led me to believe that you guys read the title, watched the video, and then ran to reply.

I simply asked why do we hate on the people who deal them and the people who buy them when all thats doing is making it easier for us who buy authentics to get our pairs if thats just one less person in our way in line or online...

Is reading hard or something? I didn't ask why you didn't wear fakes... Nor did I ask you to buy them...


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This is actually a good post because if you think about it a good replica is actually the same as an authentic minus the NIKE markup. The same people are making them, as far as the assembly and materials. I've seen some great fakes.

deltadogman1 said:

This is actually a good post because if you think about it a good replica is actually the same as an authentic minus the NIKE markup. The same people are making them, as far as the assembly and materials. I've seen some great fakes.

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and that's not funny cause it's probably true. It's kinda like how Toyota makes Lexus.

I have been purchasing shoes for a long time as well as what ill say now is that shoes are just shoes. You can wear whatever you want as long as you are fine with it.

the only problem i have with the original post is: you're rationalising with the irrational.

other than that you're spot on. although "don't believe the hype" essentially says the same thing.

Wear whatever you want to wear.

I've ordered a couple pairs of the "Perfect Jordan 11" Concords from two different replica websites to check em out and satisfy my curiosity. I'm not calling these shoes "Perfect", that's what the websites have them listed as (some say "Flawless"), so I don't wanna hear any dumbass remarks bout that. These Perfect 11s are made of the same materials as the authentics with the exception of the carbon fiber and the 23 logo on the back is not quite the same. These also have the full-length air-soles in them. First of all, I immediately felt the air soles upon walking around in them and then, subsequently, pulled the insole up to feel them for myself. These Perfect 11s are, no lie, some of the most comfortable shoes, not only J's, I've ever put on. Compared to my '09  Space Jams, it is a night and day difference when it comes to which falls more in line with traditional authenticity of the Jordan 11. The height of the Perfect is better, the comfort is better, the patent leather height is better, the overall shape is better. I just sold those 09 Jams because I hated them and were an embarrassing shoe to have in my collection and am waiting for the "Perfect Jordan 11" Space Jam to release. Hate if you want but that's all you are is just a hater. I guarantee in a blind comfort test you would choose these reps over those "so called" authentics.

BTW, i'm an old J head too, not a youngin that frequents this site so my knowledge of J's far supercedes that of any crash dummy who's gonna hate on this.

The more people buy fakes, the less the buy authentics. So let them boys cook

The reason I (i can only speak on my own personal views) dont like companies producing fakes is because they are stealing Nike's ideas. Nike was innovative with these designs and the companies producing fakes are just stealing the ideas to make a quick buck. I have no respect for a company that does business that way. If they have the ability to make such high quality comfortable shoes... then they should start their own brand. As for dudes who wear fakes it doesnt bother me at all until they start in with how much "heat" they got on their feet. But if some dude told me he was rockn fakes cuz he couldnt afford or get the legit pair i wouldnt care. I'm not into sneakers to judge or look down upon people i just think its dumb if you have fakes and try to show out. Again just my opinion.

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