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I know there are more than a few on this board who have insightful ideas and opinions that pertain to the many different realms and nuances of sports, so I want to call unto those that have the same passion as mine.

If you're a General Manager for a professional team, what would be your philosophy for building that team? Don't hesitate to be creative. It can be your favorite team, it can be a team that sucks that you need to completely redefine its culture, or a team that is a perennial power and you need to keep things going (though not as fun as starting fresh). You can answer them all if you want and for all sports.

I will start and I'll post about building a baseball team from scratch first, since many might go with football or basketball. I want variety!
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My philosophy would be to completely stockpile the farm system. I wouldn't dare put a time frame of when success will happen because I know that it may take longer than hoped for when you are trying to develop future stars. I would stay away from the Yankees model of signing new studs to replace the aging star. Big contracts are a no-no on my team unless that player came up through our system or later on in the building process where this one player may be the difference in winning a WS. Just not out of the gates when so many holes will still have to be filled.

I would find a coach that stresses fundamentals and the art of "creating" runs. Absolute crisp baseball that has its players almost look mechanical with how fluent they are with knowing the game..Specifically on the defensive end.

Models I would use would be the teams like the Twins of the early 2000's as well as the Angels from that same time. The Oakland A's and the Florida Marlins (both WS years).

The key is to get as much youth as possible and let the best work themselves to the top. After however many years it takes to get enough young talent that is producing then the next step would be to sprinkle in veterans who each bring something to the table. Grab a guy or two that does a great job of leading players. Will need veteran players who fill a void on the team or in specific areas it may be struggling. Be it a power bat in the middle of the lineup, a slick fielding shortstop, or a very good leadoff hitter. It'll be at a point where you can't wait for a player in the minors to develop and at a time where it just may put the team over the top.

This can go even deeper as in finding specific arms for your rotation/bullpen and what type of players you want at respective positions. Maybe I'll get into that later, but I wanna see how this thread goes first.

Let's have fun with this. Could be very interesting and insightful.
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The Draft. Never, ever miss. Scout HEAVILY no matter the sport and know every single player.

If a player develops but you don't feel title ready with him, flip him for added assets. Never fall in love with an 8, only keep the 10's.

Anybody can be traded to a point. If they are the face of your team and drive your market, keep them, if they start to decline and you can get high value for them, do it. Never make a panic move just to do "something".

Make damn sure your coach sees things the way you do. No added hassle, complaints, bickering. Agree on players, moves, goals.

Always go for key spots.
DE, CB, QB, OT.
C, PG.
Pitching, CF, SS, strength up the middle.

Never ignore those areas. If you have to reach in a draft, reach those positions and hope you get lucky. Better to have too many of those than not enough.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but my main point is Draft. #1 easy.
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Draft and scouting is all I'd invest in.

NFL: the game is won in the trenches. I want a good offensive line and a beast defensive line equipped with pass rushers off the edge.
I feel like skill players are changeable for the most part (other than like QB or something). I would invest heavily on signing and scouting UDFAs.

NBA: stink til you get a star. That's pretty much it. Hitting on your lottery selections is mandatory or else you'll be fired. Rookie contracts are the best.

MLB: I'm building thru the draft and going with pitching/bullpen/defense. Word to the SF Giants.
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NFL: the game is won in the trenches. I want a good offensive line and a beast defensive line equipped with pass rushers off the edge.

Definitely agree with this. I would start with the D-Line unless I were able to get a top QB in the draft. If I did then I'd invest heavily to keep him protected then build the D-Line next.
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NFL since thats the only sport that really interests me.


Build thru the draft, i know its said time and time again, but build talent with scouting.

OL and DL being priorities.

Good Defensive line play can hide deficiencies in the LBs and Secondary

Good offensive line play can make an average RB excel and give more time and protection to a young QB.

never waste a high draft pick on RBs, value can always be found in the 2nd round and later and with good Oline play that would also help.

high 1st round picks on QBs / WRs for offense

DE and DB for Defense.


have at least one pro bowler on every level on defense ( DL / LB / DB )

as for offense when i go QB with a high pick, get him a TE, young QB best friend is a sure handed TE.


thats all for now.
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as for offense when i go QB with a high pick, get him a TE, young QB best friend is a sure handed TE.

Very true.
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NBA:
-Starting big first, grabbing the best possible center or power forward available. Someone who can defend, rebound and position himself for high quality/efficient shots.
-Grabbing a traditional point guard next. Can pass, defend, organize the court for the right play, shoots only when he knows he's the best option left or can penetrate for a high percentage shot.
-The team will probably be terrible at first without a scoring threat at SG or length and/or athleticism at SF, so I'm going to identify the best options available on the market and offer what I can that's on my roster for a player who's reliable in some aspects of his game. I'll utilize his strengths and have him showcase those as much as possible, in the hopes that he can be used in future trade talks with GMs who are valuing that particular skill. He'll probably be a starter on my weak team, but is a bench player on most contenders.
-Draft day: best player available, hopefully at a position of need. I won't give up my draft picks unless I'm floored by an offer. It'll likely take at least a couple of drafts to get players who will develop and make a serious impression on the team (assuming these players pan out, which obviously is the point).
-Make the D-League affiliate a place for real development. Hire a young, ambitious coach that needs to prove himself and give him players who are a tool or two away from being contributing players on the NBA level. As in baseball, develop a winning culture throughout the organization.
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Great, a thread dedicated to the wannabe GM's of NT S&T
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post #11 of 36
If I'm the GM of the Lakers I'd just demand the best players possible.
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Great, a thread dedicated to the wannabe GM's of NT S&T

Nothing wrong with that, baby!
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If I'm the GM of the Lakers I'd just demand the best players possible.

Mitch cosigns this point....



As for the thread at hand:
It all depends.. You rarely get to start from scratch... So it's hard to make that definitive statement because you'll always have that kind of impediment to building a roster.

But say I'm starting from scratch....

I'm not a big draft guy. For every Thunder, or Spurs you have the perpetual lottery teams that get high picks and keep building and furthest they get is a weak playoff contention. You have to be a master to win big year after year in the draft, even one bad pick could set you back a few years. Say after drafting KD then WB, the Thunder missed with Ibaka or Harden. They wouldn't have been contenders. Say you hit on someone, you always run the risk of losing those guys at some point. Especially if they are solid role players, that someone wants to gamble money on. You then have to replace that guy, and as opposed to pick 13,14. You are now at pick 24, 25.

If I'm starting at a zero sum.. I go after 2 max players... A scorer and a post presence.

Then I go after a decent offensive PG, who is solid defensively. More so on the defensive side, because you don't want to get killed by quick PG. Then a bigger SF, who can use his length to slow down SF, and in small stretches play a 4.

Then I spend a consider amount on a 6th man who can create his own shot.

And go after a couple younger talent that have 1 solid area of their game (they are typically low cost guys), and hope to sign them to longer contracts with the hope that they start to round out their game. And round out the roster with some vets that are for leadership/stability.

Everything else is all a game of chance.. And you scout the draft looking for late 1st Round Steals.

You really only need to build a roster for 10. Not many teams go over a rotation of over 10.
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post #14 of 36
Doesn't matter what team I'm building, no player gets a no-trade clause in his contract.
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NBA:
I'm putting a premium on long, athletic and versatile players.
If I can't acquire a superstar, I'll take my lumps.
I'm developing homegrown talent for the long-term.
I'm avoiding spending considerable amounts of money in free agency like the plague.
I'll take maybe one dude with character issues.
I'm scouting all over the world.
I'm developing the advanced metrics department to get as much information as possible.
I'm in constant contact with ownership and coaches to ensure we're all on the same page.
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I would eliminate big market teams from building these super teams. Creates a unfair and unbalanced league.

Also I would eliminate players from dictating what teams they will and will not play for.
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I would eliminate big market teams from building these super teams. Creates a unfair and unbalanced league.
Also I would eliminate players from dictating what teams they will and will not play for.

Probably can't do this as a GM, but I agree.
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Probably can't do this as a GM, but I agree.

But if I can get all the other GM's on board and present it to the league officials, I am sure something would change.
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Probably can't do this as a GM, but I agree.

But if I can get all the other GM's on board and present it to the league officials, I am sure something would change.
No, you wouldn't.
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as far as the NBA goes, i want a big athletic front court than can get out and run, but still board and defend. i'd also like to invest in a lot of combo 2guard/small forwards each with their own specialty. a slasher, shooter, defensive stopper etc. hard to defend length/
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NFL

Become BFF's with Bill Belichik and Ted Thompson.

If your QB hasn't showed elite potentIal within 3-4 years on to the next one. Look at the past 20 Superbowls and who the winning QB's were. You're not winning without one. Blows my mind that I knew Tony Romo had zero chance of winning a Superbowl 3 years go but a billionaire owner can't see that.

NBA

Unless you can buy players with your big market stay out of the middle at all cost. So if you are in the middle... you tank and go the OKC route. If you're in the 10-22 pick range it's like your trapped in a never ending cycle. You're not good enough to beat a top 3 team but you're not bad enough to get any kind of talent in the draft to break the cycle. There's not enough talent in the draft. If you don't have a top 6 pick nothing will change. And by tanking i mean clean house too. use all your assets for future draft picks.I love what the Cavs are doing right now. Multiple top 5 picks within the past 2 years and I can guarantee you they're going to trade Anderson Varajeo for more high picks and end up with at least 2 more top 10 picks at the very least in this upcoming draft.
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I would eliminate big market teams from building these super teams. Creates a unfair and unbalanced league.

Also I would eliminate players from dictating what teams they will and will not play for.

So you'll get rid of Free Agency?

Never happen.
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Originally Posted by Mac4167 View Post

I would eliminate big market teams from building these super teams. Creates a unfair and unbalanced league.

Also I would eliminate players from dictating what teams they will and will not play for.

 

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Originally Posted by Mac4167 View Post

Originally Posted by 651akathePaul View Post

Probably can't do this as a GM, but I agree.

But if I can get all the other GM's on board and present it to the league officials, I am sure something would change.

 

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Like a naive teenager who wants to get into politics to change the world. laugh.gif
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post #26 of 36
Football: draft a great defense from the line then go from there. And also build a great O-Line

Futbol: go to HS games and hope you find the next Messi/Pele

baseball: pitching > everything. Book a flight to DR
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post #27 of 36
Draft a potential superstar. 5 years later, make him recruit other Superstars from his draft class and Olympic team.

Then I'll be called a genius for the rest of my career.
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Defensively I am putting a premium on DL & Safeties
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Draft a potential superstar. 5 years later, make him recruit other Superstars from his draft class and Olympic team.

Then I'll be called a genius for the rest of my career.
I wonder if they still would've teamed up if Wade had beaten ATL & lost to Lebron in a hard fought series in the next round
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NFL: Draft a dominant O-Line above anything else. The game is won in the trenches, but offense controls the clock. With a dominant line and a decent running back, teams won't be getting as many offensive possessions as they planned, and havoc ensues. After a strong O-Line, I'd go for a good linebacking corps, because a good D-Line only puts pressure on the QB, but he can still get a couple plays off. Great LBs will make stops, reads, and the correct calls to make the opponent's punter team MVP for the game. Essentially, OL & LB first.

 

NBA: Draft a godly PG (preferably one with a past in soccer, so they have the "vision" to see the court). Big men are a dime-a-dozen with today's gene pool, and my genius PG will make him look invincible, just look at, my bruh, Steve Nash. If you can't draft a PG, trade everything, but the kitchen sink, for a superstar PG and allow him to make suggestions on who to draft, while searching through free agency & the D-League for another spark to add to the team. I'd also push for a "everyone else in the league is a goddamn enemy" mentality, because, nowadays, everyone's butt buddies with everyone. Bring eighties basketball back!


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