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post #4921 of 11692
I don't even think we really need mariota.. But we obviously do need a better QB.. But mariota is just the ideal guy to run his offense (accurate quick thinking who has running ability.. Rodgers and steve young are the prototypes of what we want)

But just seeing the plays that sanchez and foles have missed this year., we just need a guy who can throw the ball accurately.. And if guys could just properly read defenses would be a need for all the risky throws
post #4922 of 11692
But draft is going to be real interesting.. Don't think chip trusts either guy based on the last two years and when we had need plays
post #4923 of 11692
Any good DB free agents this year? Basically need to fill 3 out of the 4 spots
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its his option or team option on that contract? thought he signed 2 years
post #4926 of 11692
Mariota? F dat.
I aint tryna hinder our future when we have more glaring needs.
Foles deserves another year
We need to sign a fa cb and safety and draft one as well
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post #4927 of 11692

Such a tough loss man went from talking bout having the chance to have a bye to maybe not even making the playoffs :{:x:|>: 

 

All within 2 weeks

 

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post #4928 of 11692
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its his option or team option on that contract? thought he signed 2 years

I believe it's a 1 year deal and he won't be able to get franchised, he'll be unrestricted.

As far as Mariota, if Chip wants him then I think they should do everything in their power to acquire him. Chip is obviously very high on him and he loves his oregon guys (see Josh Huff). They've stayed away from big name players in FA so we'll see if that trend continues in the draft too. I'd much rather have a top defensive talent picked early on.

Sanchez is blinding a lot of us, making Foles seem like a savior, although he would be a better option atm(which is not saying much).
post #4929 of 11692
If chip wanted to go for MM8 I'd be all for it.

If Rex Ryan is fired I'd also be very interested in him as the DC, I do have a hard time imagining Chip and Rex getting along.


Season is still not over yet, I know Washington fans are salivating over the chance to end the Cowboys season. Just have to win out and hope for Dallas to lose both to Indy and Washington
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If chip wanted to go for MM8 I'd be all for it.

If Rex Ryan is fired I'd also be very interested in him as the DC, I do have a hard time imagining Chip and Rex getting along.


Season is still not over yet, I know Washington fans are salivating over the chance to end the Cowboys season. Just have to win out and hope for Dallas to lose both to Indy and Washington
Dallas has to lose 1 of those not both. WIth same record we would be in
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Foles is out, bone is not healed
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post #4932 of 11692

neither foles or sanchez is the answer at QB.. we are getting a QB in the draft (which obviously leaves a number of possibilities)

 

then it all depends on who is available in free agency on what we do going into next season.. foles still has a year on his rookie deal.. sanchez could probably resigned for cheap to be the backup.. and who knows who is going to be available (does san fran want to move keep.. whatever happens with RG3)

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at this point; I have changed my position on MM8, I am all in

Foles will still fetch you some kind of draft pick, move him even if it's for a 4th and look to address corner in FA
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post #4934 of 11692

but for all the things that went wrong, the celek fumble was the nail in the coffin..

 

4 turnovers on our side of the field :{

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at this point; I have changed my position on MM8, I am all in

Foles will still fetch you some kind of draft pick, move him even if it's for a 4th and look to address corner in FA

 

I say move him and barkley if we can get anything..

 

we just need a place holder IF we do end up getting mariota.. hell if we can get hundley in the 2nd I say move those guys and bring someone in for cheap for a year or 2

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but for all the things that went wrong, the celek fumble was the nail in the coffin..

4 turnovers on our side of the field mean.gif

that bad pass that was too high to Ertz and got picked was the point where I moved to my bed to finish the game
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I say move him and barkley if we can get anything..

we just need a place holder IF we do end up getting mariota.. hell if we can get hundley in the 2nd I say move those guys and bring someone in for cheap for a year or 2

I think if they get MM8 then he starts from day 1; maybe Sanchez resigns are the back up
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post #4938 of 11692

I can deal with sanchez on a cheap 2 or 3 year deal as the backup.. but too many mistakes to be the guy.. missed reads, errant throws, poor pocket presence, poor situational awareness..

 

we know sanchez isn't beating good teams.. same goes for foles who has pretty much the same issues

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I can deal with sanchez on a cheap 2 or 3 year deal as the backup.. but too many mistakes to be the guy.. missed reads, errant throws, poor pocket presence, poor situational awareness..

we know sanchez isn't beating good teams.. same goes for foles who has pretty much the same issues

yeah 100% don't expect either of those two to be the opening day starter in 2015
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post #4940 of 11692
You guys are in the moment.

Yall were high on foles. Foles plays bad gets hurt. then HIGH on sanchez. sanchez plays like the backup he is.

Now you are willing to potentially give up multiple first rounders for mariota when we have an atrocious secondary

With even avg corners we win that game
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You guys are in the moment.

Yall were high on foles. Foles plays bad gets hurt. then HIGH on sanchez. sanchez plays like the backup he is.

Now you are willing to potentially give up multiple first rounders for mariota when we have an atrocious secondary

With even avg corners we win that game

I am; Foles proved to me he can be a Matt Schuab type QB this year not "the guy"

Sanchez is what he is; he got a 2nd chance but proved he is just a game manager at best

I want the franchise QB now
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post #4942 of 11692
Yea the Celek fumble was costly. He RARELY fumbles and lands on top of the defender? Just bad luck mean.gif
Regardless of what happens this season, still excited for the future of this squad. NFL is meeting next year to discuss playoff expansion and if we go 11-5 and miss the playoffs then they'd have to do something to change it IMO.
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I am; Foles proved to me he can be a Matt Schuab type QB this year not "the guy"

Sanchez is what he is; he got a 2nd chance but proved he is just a game manager at best

I want the franchise QB now
You dont think that Foles deserves another full year on a healthy oline?
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You guys are in the moment.

Yall were high on foles. Foles plays bad gets hurt. then HIGH on sanchez. sanchez plays like the backup he is.

Now you are willing to potentially give up multiple first rounders for mariota when we have an atrocious secondary

With even avg corners we win that game

 

nah man.. I hoped sanchez was the product of a bad situation (like steve young in tampa).. I hoped that in a wayyyy better situation a guy who has won at every other level would put it together (and he had been to 2 AFC championship games)

 

with foles we saw the bad last year, but he got away with it.. and that's why he still had to prove this year that he could be the guy and fix those bad problems from last year.. this year he just wasn't getting away with it and all the bad things seemed like they went on steroids

 

neither is THE guy.. but I think our secondary could benefit from a better coach and is easier to address in free agency

 

 

 

if we can get mariota at a doable price, I'm for it.. but I'm also for using our first on a CB or S and then moving up in the 2nd for hundley

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You dont think that Foles deserves another full year on a healthy oline?

not really; I think the o line excuse is too much of a pass for him

every QB isn't gonna have an elite o line to play behind; the o line still wasn't terrible plus all that back foot throwing and his inability to move into the pocket to pass has me concerned that he is what he is

days like today make you realize just how good McNabb really was
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Philip rivers is on his 4th or 5th center.. Rodgers has had injuries on his oline..

 

it's football, it happens.. I think our running game suffered because of the injuries to the Oline..

 

 

 

 

but him throwing while he's back peddling.. or throwing up ducks.. or misreading plays.. or just general inaccuracy.. that's all on him.. just look at the Jacksonville game

post #4947 of 11692
So yall willing to put all chips in on a rookie qb?

Yall dont feel that the secondary is more at need then trading up an arm and a leg?

There will be qbs in the later rounds where we won't have to hinder our progress.

Is the qb position really that critical in this system? I dont think so. As seen by success by both guys
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post #4948 of 11692
Im not opposed to drafting a qb

Im opposed to crippling our team and selecting MM

Let Foles battle in training camp with a rookie qb not selected in the 1st round

1st round CB or SAFETY
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post #4949 of 11692
If I were to choose our most glaring problem, it really isn't the QB position. Honestly, this system is made to "plug and play" a QB (a QB with decent talent). The problem is our secondary, and its not even close. Other than Jenkins, theres just nothing there. Boykin isn't having the same year he had last year. Williams, Fletcher are garbage.

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post #4950 of 11692

I think we need a better QB.. or at least a QB with a higher ceiling.. I don't think mariota is our only option in that regard

 

for me it all comes down to the price.. I'm willing to pay a premium, but not give up the whole world

 

 

 

 

 

also it takes time when drafting CBs.. safeties can transition a little quicker depending on what else is on the team..

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