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post #8941 of 11692

just remember jimmy Johnson took over a 3-13 cowboys team, then went:

 

1-15

7-9

11-5 (got blown on in the divisional playoff round)

 

 

 

 

belichick with the browns (3-13 the year before):

6-10

7-9

7-9

11-5

5-11

 

and first year with the pats (8-8 the year before): 5-11

post #8942 of 11692
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just remember jimmy Johnson took over a 3-13 cowboys team, then went:

 

1-15

7-9

11-5 (got blown on in the divisional playoff round)

 

 

 

 

belichick wit the browns:

6-10

7-9

7-9

11-5

5-11

 

and first year with the pats: 5-11

The biggest problem that people have with Chip, is how he completely overhauled the squad, so early in his coaching stint.  Belichick with Cleveland, and JJ in Dallas is slightly before my time, but did they make the type of roster changes that Chip has made this early in their careers?

 

Not saying I disagree with the notion that Chip deserves more time, just legitimately wondering. 

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post #8943 of 11692

^ look at pete carroll with the seahawks.. the team was 5-11 before he took over and then went:

 

7-9

7-9

11-5

 

then 13-3 and winning the super bowl

post #8944 of 11692
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just remember jimmy Johnson took over a 3-13 cowboys team, then went:

1-15
7-9
11-5 (got blown on in the divisional playoff round)




belichick wit the browns:
6-10
7-9
7-9
11-5
5-11

and first year with the pats: 5-11
The biggest problem that people have with Chip, is how he completely overhauled the squad, so early in his coaching stint.  Belichick with Cleveland, and JJ in Dallas is slightly before my time, but did they make the type of roster changes that Chip has made this early in their careers?

Not saying I disagree with the notion that Chip deserves more time, just legitimately wondering. 
Well that and the stubbornness/ ego

He was given a solid offense. All he had to do was sure up the oline ( for the future) and work on the defense. Both of which could've been done through the draft and limited free agency. I don't even like Nick foles but if you give him a good line and a solid defense, you can at least make the playoffs
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The biggest problem that people have with Chip, is how he completely overhauled the squad, so early in his coaching stint.  Belichick with Cleveland, and JJ in Dallas is slightly before my time, but did they make the type of roster changes that Chip has made this early in their careers?

 

Not saying I disagree with the notion that Chip deserves more time, just legitimately wondering. 

 

 

the most obvious change for those cowboys teams is the infamous Hershel walker trade where they abused the Vikings..

 

it took drew Bledsoe getting hurt (and lucking into brady in the 6th round)

post #8946 of 11692
How in the hell is Ertz a wasted pick ?
post #8947 of 11692
Ertz out here balling lol idk how he was a wasted pick .
post #8948 of 11692
Well he hasn't lived up to the hype, ballin?

Dude has 10 rec for 104 yards with 0 tds through four games. Last year was suppose to be his breakthrough year and same was said about this season.

Not saying it's a wasted pick, but it's his third year in the league and in chips system and he has not lived up to our second round hype.

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post #8949 of 11692
Ertz just came off surgery
post #8950 of 11692
man some dudes were blinded by that 10-6 season last year. Opening game vs. Jax our secondary already looked terrible, Sproles had to save us that day. Week 2 we're lucky that BB doesn't get called for a penalty on T.Y. for the Jenk INT. We clearly couldn't finish the game at San Fran. We got shut down by SEA at home even when we were murked out with the all blacks with Sanchez(whom of which some of you guys are clamoring for atm). Foles couldn't hit anyone open down the seam whenever we ran 4 verts(he made some, but missed most). Chip really hasn't had anyone at QB for me to make a final call on him

BUT I still and will always hate the fact that he got rid of Djack for nothing. I honestly felt like if Chip just let it ride, D Jack could've adapted to Chip but there was no way around what Chip envisions in his players.
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man some dudes were blinded by that 10-6 season last year. Opening game vs. Jax our secondary already looked terrible, Sproles had to save us that day. Week 2 we're lucky that BB doesn't get called for a penalty on T.Y. for the Jenk INT. We clearly couldn't finish the game at San Fran. We got shut down by SEA at home even when we were murked out with the all blacks with Sanchez(whom of which some of you guys are clamoring for atm). Foles couldn't hit anyone open down the seam whenever we ran 4 verts(he made some, but missed most). 

As much as it pains me to say, a lot of people are right regarding the fact that we haven't really won any games against any teams worth mentioning.  That Colts win, was probably our best win (As far as competition quality goes) and you can definitely argue that we didn't even deserve it :{.  I still have a glimmer of hope that this team can be better than what we're currently seeing.

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Sounds life some dudes would rather have just given Andy Reid a lifetime coaching card
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Sounds life some dudes would rather have just given Andy Reid a lifetime coaching card

these are the same dudes who were also angry at how andy couldn't draft talent at the LB'er position, how he never made adjustments, didn't run enough(not NTers just the fanbase in general)

andy did a helluva job during his tenure here, but it was time for a change, as he and Lurie both admitted
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On tyrod taylor

"How did he end up in Buffalo? He left Baltimore because he wanted to compete to be a starter, though the Ravens valued him as a backup.

One place he wanted to go, which featured an offense deemed perfect for him, was the Eagles. He asked the Eagles to consider him. However, they did not, eventually signing Tim Tebow instead."



BRUHHHHHH IM SO HEATED

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We aint even keep Tebow either which it makes it that much dumber smh
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these are the same dudes who were also angry at how andy couldn't draft talent at the LB'er position, how he never made adjustments, didn't run enough(not NTers just the fanbase in general)

andy did a helluva job during his tenure here, but it was time for a change, as he and Lurie both admitted

for real, glass always half empty type dudes
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post #8956 of 11692

until we get a QB, Im not burying anyone.. especially chip

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until we get a QB, Im not burying anyone.. especially chip

pretty much the NFL in a nutshell
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post #8958 of 11692
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until we get a QB, Im not burying anyone.. especially chip

Didn't he trade for Bradford?
post #8959 of 11692
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Didn't he trade for Bradford?

yeah but that was hope

that he could be Rich Gannon 2.0 and get it on track with a fresh start, he still might who knows

I think he meant draft a QB, he clearly wanted MM8
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post #8960 of 11692
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until we get a QB, Im not burying anyone.. especially chip

Didn't he trade for Bradford?

 

and what options did we have.. if Bradford worked, we have the next brees..

 

it didn't work.. it was a gamble

 

I blame billy davis because we have players on the roster who just aren't being used.. and he hasn't changed things up in the secondary to help guys out.. the front line and a couple of the LBs have made him look better than he is

post #8961 of 11692

I didn't like the Bradford move at the time.. and hoped that rumor about another team offering a 1st was true and we could move him on..

 

 

but I get the thought process behind it.. and im sure shurmur was in chip's ear

post #8962 of 11692
Damn y'all ride or die for Chip even after these crazy "gamble " moves he's been making .
post #8963 of 11692

the moves that chip made that bothered me:

 

1) the desean move.. because I think/thought we could at least get something for him and we got the ability to decide where he went

 

2) the Bradford trade.. as stated above, I understand why he did it.. but even if Bradford made it through the season and had a good year,  I would still be scared about him long term

 

3) demarco.. just not a fan of signing RBs to serious money.. you draft RBs after the 1st

 

 

that's it

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post #8965 of 11692
Yall need to calm down. Few people here have it out for chip as much as I do, but its been 4 games, if we had a kicker we're 2 and 2 at worst and tied for first in the division. Our defense has been great, if the offense can just get their **** together and string together some drives (not even scoring drives, just drives that get some yards and keep our defense off the field) I think we'll be fine. Hopefully chip makes the adjustment and starts slowing it down a bit ( laugh.gif )

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How in the hell is Ertz a wasted pick ?

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Ertz out here balling lol idk how he was a wasted pick .
He has like 1000 career receiving yards and 7 touchdowns Since he came in the league. That's not balling by any means. For all the talent he may or may not have its not showing up.

If you weren't going to utilize him why waste the pick
post #8967 of 11692
58/702 last year while spliting time with Celek

None of our receivers have stats this year ..what more would ask for from a 3rd year TE ..you expecting Gronk numbers ?
post #8968 of 11692
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Ertz still might have broken out like we expect but he is HARDLY a wasted pick

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post #8969 of 11692
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Ertz still might have broken out like we expect but he is HARDLY a wasted pick

like my new avy fellas?

Avi is hilarious lol this year reminds me of the first few years under Reid. Offense was inconsistent but the D was definitely SB legit.

 

Regarding Ertz, we still don't use him properly. He has the talent to be better than Graham as an overall TE 

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