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Please God, let Pioli stay.
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All of this. Sad to see him leave... Wish we could've demoted him to DC but when you have back to back years where you have great starts and your team sputters and fails to make the playoffs combined with consistently being in the bottom 5th of the league offensively then this shouldn't come as a surprise ohwell.gif

This, right here.

It was just his time to go.

Deserve ain't got nothing to do with it

He'll get another job though
post #93 of 118
Arizona all over Andy Reid already. Lovie will find another gig asap, Bears just felt like they needed some change.

Kyle Shanahan? Redskins had a great year, but don't think he's ready for the head gig yet.

Shwartz isn't getting fired, Ford family is cheap.
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Reid interviewing for KC today, it's said if he chooses KC, Pioli is 100% gone. INterviewing with ARI tomorrow.
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According to Chris Mortenson, ANdy Reid and the Chiefs are about to sign a deal.
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Lovie Smith to interview with Buffalo
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The Cardinals have in fact formally asked for permission from the Steelers to interview Todd Haley
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According to Chris Mortenson, ANdy Reid and the Chiefs are about to sign a deal.

 

thank you baby jesus..

 

glad the fat man will be out of the NFC, i can root for him a little bit now

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The Bengals are really starting to come together as a team within the last 2 years in a tough division with them now making the playoffs and folks want Marvin Lewis out of a job??

Yup. 3 playoff appearances in the last 4 years as well. People in Cincinnati forget how much of a laughing stock that franchise was before he came there.

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Nobody in Cincy has forgotten, that's why all the long time fans are so jaded. Marvin definitely helped give credibility back to the team, but I think overall he is a pretty average coach and I don't see him ever getting his team to a championship. That said guy could be a great GM, he has a good eye for talent but he will need to go elsewhere to do that (unless Mike does or really changes his ways). But Marvin overall is a .500 coach and I think his record is a pretty accurate reflection on how he is as a coach. Bengals fans though should appreciate the credibility and success he injected back into the franchise, I just think it will take another guy to take that next (and perhaps final) step
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post #101 of 118
Marvin is one of those coaches that will get you to respectability, but I wonder if he's a guy that can win a Super Bowl as a head coach.
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What teams has he had that should've been Super Bowl teams, or anything of the sort? Post 2005 Palmer wasn't taking them to a SB, and the offense wasn't rejuvenated until last year when it was led by 2 rookies. I'm not completely behind Marvin myself in the future, but the comments of him not being able to get to a SB are overblown. When has he had a SB squad is my question? He hasn't pulled and Schottenheimer or Andy Reid type of choke jobs on teams with high expectations.

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That's just the point...He's had many "teams." His window so far as a head coach has been a long one for the Bengals and his high point has been just above mediocrity (10 years = 0 playoff wins). You should be able to build on what you've accomplished and get better. Marvin Lewis' teams have not done that. Some blame can go to the front office as well, but 10 years with a team should definitely yield a playoff win...More likely way more than that.

If anything...This is his last hurrah.
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I'm not sure that you're well-versed in the ineptitude of the Bengals Front Office, which has been stubbornly headed by Mike Brown to no avail for many years. Marvin Lewis took a stand after the 4-12 season (when his contract was up) and was able to gain more control of personnel decisions and even able to get more scouts added to the NFL's smallest scouting department. Do you think that it is coincidental that he was given more control and more FO expertise and that resulted in back to back playoff appearances, along with the Bengals KILLING the draft for the last 2 years? Cincinnati is a unique situation, and I understand what you're getting at, but as someone who has followed the team I think that there are things that people who don't just won't understand.

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That's just the point...He's had many "teams." His window so far as a head coach has been a long one for the Bengals and his high point has been just above mediocrity (10 years = 0 playoff wins). You should be able to build on what you've accomplished and get better. Marvin Lewis' teams have not done that. Some blame can go to the front office as well, but 10 years with a team should definitely yield a playoff win...More likely way more than that.

If anything...This is his last hurrah.

 

I see what you and others are getting at but how committed is the Bengals front office and other teams in the NFL front office's committed to actually winning the Super Bowl??  Before you have a coach that is viewed as "a guy that can win a Super Bowl as a head coach" you must have a front office that wants to win a Super Bowl.  It's start from the top champ.

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post #106 of 118
Good points. We'll see what happens. This year and next will be big.
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All points which make me reiterate the job he has done with the drafting of players. It's really impressive, I can imagine the job he'd do in the front office of a competent organization. If Ozzie wasn't so good I'd see him back in Balt. Heck if Colbert doesn't hit on more picks maybe Pitt. But his in game coaching decisions leaves a lot to be desired. We shall see though, I'm curious if Zimmer gets a gig after this year
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post #108 of 118
Marvin has made some piss poor choices but look at what he has been able to do. He's partially responsible for helping Mike Brown change. He's good in my books. For now.
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post #109 of 118
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Chiefs have fired GM Scott Pioli. Translation: Paving the way for Andy Reid's arrival. Filed to ESPN.
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Chiefs have fired GM Scott Pioli. Translation: Paving the way for Andy Reid's arrival. Filed to ESPN.

 

yup.. which means they'll be bringing in tom heckert

post #111 of 118
Bengals have had like early first round picks the past 15 years minus a couple playoff seasons. I remember last year experts saying we had the most talented team in the L. I don't think Marvin can tap talent very well not to mention his coordinators > him
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I'm not sure that you're well-versed in the ineptitude of the Bengals Front Office, which has been stubbornly headed by Mike Brown to no avail for many years. Marvin Lewis took a stand after the 4-12 season (when his contract was up) and was able to gain more control of personnel decisions and even able to get more scouts added to the NFL's smallest scouting department. Do you think that it is coincidental that he was given more control and more FO expertise and that resulted in back to back playoff appearances, along with the Bengals KILLING the draft for the last 2 years? Cincinnati is a unique situation, and I understand what you're getting at, but as someone who has followed the team I think that there are things that people who don't just won't understand.

Totally agree with this, it seems like he's found the best consistency he can when he's up against a lot because of Mike Brown.

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Bengals have had like early first round picks the past 15 years minus a couple playoff seasons. I remember last year experts saying we had the most talented team in the L. I don't think Marvin can tap talent very well not to mention his coordinators > him

roll.gifAt any expert saying that the Bengals had the most talented team in the L last year. With a rookie QB, Jerome Simpson as a starting WR, Nate Livings and Mike McGlynn playing G, Cedric Benson at RB? Please, show me that quote. Please. And the Bengals have picked early and been terrible before Marvin came. All the early (Top 10) picks under Marvin have "hit" besides Keith Rivers, but that entire first round was filled with a ton of misses in a weak draft. A lot of the propaganda that people spew is just wrong. He definitely leads a lot to be desired in regards to clock management and decision making, but this other stuff is just erroneous.

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Andy shoulda taken a year to get his family situations straight if you ask me...

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Reid in KC won't go well.
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Andy shoulda taken a year to get his family situations straight if you ask me...

That's what I thought he was going to do also.

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post #117 of 118
Jamaal Charles' carries next season are going to take a hit next season. laugh.gif
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Chip Kelly is close to a deal with the Browns
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