Official 2013 Boxing Thread: Year is over, please lock.

Status
Not open for further replies.
Lucas. :lol: :pimp:

Wonder if anything will result of that locker-room controversy, or if it was nothin. :nerd:

Two pretty good fights before that, and my Pops said that the undercards to those two were pretty good too.

The Soto Karass fight was damn entertaining. It's too bad Aydin couldn't put forth the effort he did late in the fight, or he may have won it.
 
@ the Danny Garcia Rumor I'll be highly upset if he withdraws I cop tickets to the fight :smh:

Mattthysse total destruction of Dallas JR. Wow hurry up make the Garcia vs Matthysse fight so we can see Rios vs Matthysse.
 
Last edited:
@ the Danny Garcia Rumor I'll be highly upset if he withdraws I cop tickets to the fight :smh:

Mattthysse total destruction of Dallas JR. Wow hurry up make the Garcia vs Matthysse fight so we can see Rios vs Matthysse.

I'd rather see Garcia vs Rios just for the press conference. That first press conference would be :rofl:
 
Rumor has it that Garcia wasn't taking training seriously. I'm interested to see how this story will play out.
i seen that one and also that he is getting the mayweather fight so is pulling out(i dont believe that one at all)
 
Good move by GBP now be Peterson vs Matthysse and GBP will save Danny Garcia vs Amir Khan 2. The winners should then face off for a unification on all belts GBP has the Junior Welterweight on lock!
 
Last edited:
Good move by GBP now be Peterson vs Matthysse and GBP will save Danny Garcia vs Amir Khan 2. The winners should then face off for a unification on all belts GBP has the Junior Welterweight on lock!

Yup and they can milk the Peterson vs Khan rematch. Then put everyone mentioned against Robert Guerrero and Andre Berto when they move to 147.

Only thing that sucks is none of them will face Bradley and Rios.
 
Weekend wrap up.
A roundup of the past week's notable boxing results from around the world:


Saturday at Las Vegas
Lucas Matthysse KO1 Mike Dallas Jr.
Retains an interim junior welterweight title
Records: Matthysse (33-2, 31 KOs); Dallas (19-3-1, 8 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Given the way that Matthysse, a 30-year-old wrecking machine from Argentina, has been destroying opponents lately, there are many who view him as the best junior welterweight in the world. He is certainly one of the best -- and arguably the most exciting. He did nothing to dissuade that notion as he blew away Dallas, 26, of Bakersfield, Calif., in just 2 minutes, 26 seconds in the first defense of the vacant interim belt he won by 10th-round knockout in September against previously undefeated Olusegun Ajose.

Matthysse ended the fight with Dallas in violent fashion, connecting on a short counter right hand that had him out on his feet before he crashed to the canvas face-first. With Dallas rendered unconscious, referee Robert Byrd rightfully called off the fight a moment after beginning his count, realizing Dallas was out.

So Matthysse -- whose only losses were by split decision in the hometowns of former titleholders Devon Alexander and Zab Judah -- won his fifth in a row by knockout and looked good doing it. But let's not get too carried away about this particular victory. The bout was a mismatch from the moment the contract was signed. Matthysse was supposed to face Hank Lundy, which probably also would have been a mismatch, but Lundy was forced out of the fight because of a beef with his promoter. Dallas, fighting for the first time since his father's death last fall, got the call and filled in. Dallas is a capable boxer and was a good amateur, but he lost both times he stepped up against legitimate competition.

Dallas proved he is nowhere near the class of Matthysse, who has been calling for a fight with unified titleholder Danny Garcia. Matthysse is Garcia's mandatory challenger and deserves the fight, but it remains to be seen whether the fight will be made if Garcia defeats Judah in their rescheduled fight on April 27. Garcia-Matthysse should be a relatively easy fight to make because they are both promoted by Golden Boy. If it gets made, it would be one of boxing's most notable fights and surely an entertaining scrap.

Jesus Soto Karass W10 Selcuk Aydin
Junior middleweights
Scores: 97-93 (twice), 95-95
Records: Soto Karass (27-8-3, 17 KOs); Aydin (23-2, 17 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Soto Karass, 31, a native of Mexico based in Los Angeles, is a spoiler for sure. If you are not on your game, he will expose you. Even though he came into this fight 2-5 with a no-contest in his past eight fights (and was coming off an eighth-round knockout loss to Marcos Maidana in September), he is always dangerous. He takes a good shot, has a big heart and possesses solid power.

Aydin, 29, of Turkey, discovered all of this in a very disappointing performance. In July, Aydin gave a good fight to Robert Guerrero (who was in his first welterweight bout), but lost a unanimous decision for a vacant interim title. Aydin was a heavy favorite to rebound with a win against Soto Karass, but instead he looked terrible.

Soto Karass established a strong body attack from the start and pressed forward the entire bout. He routinely beat Aydin to the punch and often had him in retreat. He simply outworked and outgunned Aydin to score one of the best wins of his career. Judge Richard Ocasio's 95-95 scorecard must be seriously questioned. Soto Karass' style is fan-friendly, so coming off this big win, you can bank on him getting a decent opportunity in another TV fight.

Jermell Charlo KO8 Harry Joe Yorgey
Junior middleweights
Records: Charlo (20-0, 10 KOs); Yorgey (25-2-1, 12 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Charlo, 22, of Houston, is a fine prospect who has looked pretty darn good in most of his recent fights. Getting the opportunity to be seen nationally in the Showtime-televised opener, Charlo did what he was supposed to do, which was to dominate 35-year-old Bridgeport, Pa., club fighter Yorgey for an easy win.

The far superior Charlo, who was faster, bigger and stronger, connected repeatedly with combinations and was able to push Yorgey around for the entire fight at will. Charlo, who is trained by Ronnie Shields, scored a pair of knockdowns on right hands in the sixth round, and then it was just a matter of time until he finished his man. That time came at 1 minute, 9 seconds of the eighth round, when Charlo landed a sweet overhand right and dropped Yorgey to his knees. Yorgey was stumbling as he was getting up and was counted out by referee Kenny Bayless. Charlo was pitching a 70-61 shutout on all three scorecards at the time of the knockout.

This was a nice win for Charlo, who just needs more experience against better fighters. He fights in a deep weight class and could get a big opportunity later this year. Yorgey is best known for getting destroyed by Alfredo Angulo in three rounds in a 2009 interim junior middleweight title bout. Since that loss, Yorgey had won three fights in a row -- but all against woeful opposition.

Junior middleweight Jermall Charlo (11-0, 7 KOs), Jermell's twin brother, also won on the undercard, stopping Josh Williams (8-5, 5 KOs), 23, of Sheridan, Ark., at the end of the third round.

Errol Spence Jr. TKO1 Nathan Butcher
Junior middleweights
Records: Spence (3-0, 3 KOs); Butcher (0-2)
Rafael's remarks: Spence reached the quarterfinals at the 2012 London Games, the best finish on the woeful U.S. men's boxing team. Spence, 23, of Dallas, might be the best pro prospect from that team.

Like most Olympians turned pros (who are frequently set up to blow out one nondescript opponent after another), Spence is off to a quick start. In this case, it was against Butcher, of Huntington, W. Va. After notching third-round knockouts in his first two pro fights, Spence dismissed Butcher in just 63 seconds. Spence landed a right to the body and a right to the head to stun Butcher, then creamed him with a left hook that completely rocked him, causing referee Russell Mora to immediately jump in. This fight went exactly how it was supposed to go. At least Spence got a little national television exposure on Showtime Extreme.



Friday at Verona, N.Y.
Brian Vera TKO10 Sergiy Dzinziruk
Middleweights
Records: Vera (22-6, 13 KOs); Dzinziruk (36-2-1, 24 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Former junior middleweight titlist Dzinziruk, 36, of Ukraine, seems just about done after this upset loss to Vera, a former "Contender" participant who has scored his share of surprises. From 2005 to 2010, Dzinziruk, a southpaw, held a 154-pound world title and made six defenses. He has gone 0-2-1 since. After he was stripped of his belt, Dzinziruk moved to middleweight and challenged champion Sergio Martinez, who routed him, scoring five knockdowns in an eighth-round knockout win. After an 18-month layoff, Dzinziruk returned and fought to a lackluster draw with Jonathan Gonzalez.

Now comes this resounding defeat to the 31-year-old Vera, who started fast by dropping Dzinziruk twice in the first round -- a flash knockdown on a left hand early in the round followed by a hard one on a right hand late. Dzinziruk showed heart to battle back, but Vera poured it on again in the eighth round and nearly stopped him. In the 10th round, Vera continued to pound Dzinziruk, finally dropping him to his rear end in a corner after landing a pair of right hands. He was awfully wobbly and dazed when he got up, prompting referee Benjy Esteves to call off the fight at 1 minute, 50 seconds.

Vera, from Austin, Texas, is always a crowd-pleaser, and he can add this to his list of other upsets: a comeback seventh-round knockout of then-undefeated Andy Lee in their first meeting in 2008; a third-round knockout of Sebastian Demers on Demers' turf in Montreal in 2010; and decision wins against former junior middleweight titlist Sergio Mora in 2011 and 2012.



Friday at Huntington, N.Y.
Demetrius Andrade W10 Freddy Hernandez
Junior middleweights
Scores: 100-89 (three times)
Records: Andrade (19-0, 13 KOs); Hernandez (30-4, 20 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: This was ultra-easy work for Andrade, 24, of Providence, R.I., who pitched a clean shutout in a one-sided mismatch. The result was fully expected, as Andrade -- a 2008 U.S. Olympian and former world amateur champion -- is one of boxing's elite prospects. Hernandez, on the other hand, is a smaller, slower, aging journeyman who never stood a chance in this fight. Hernandez, 33, of Mexico, living in Lynwood, Calif., brought experience to the ring, but that's about it -- unless you count the first-round knockout loss he suffered in a welterweight world title bout against Andre Berto in 2010.

The quicker, more skillful Andrade (who displayed a very solid jab) rolled to the victory with ease, scoring a sixth-round knockdown -- a straight right hand that dropped Hernandez to his knees -- and was never remotely challenged in a somewhat monotonous fight. Andrade did as he pleased: In the sixth round, for example, he landed 65 percent of his power shots, according to CompuBox statistics. Now working with 2011 trainer of the year Virgil Hunter, Andrade poured it on late in the fight and was close to a stoppage. But referee Harvey Dock allowed the fight to continue, so Hernandez gains a moral victory, if nothing else. Still, going back to the Berto blowout, Hernandez dropped to 1-3 in his past four bouts. Time for Andrade to face an opponent who is there to serve as more than just target practice.

Emmanuel Taylor TKO6 Raymond Serrano
Junior welterweights
Records: Taylor (16-1, 11 KOs); Serrano (18-2, 8 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Serrano, 25, of Philadelphia has been downgraded from prospect to suspect after losing his second fight in a row -- both by knockout. In May, Serrano was stopped in the fifth round by Karim Mayfield, after which he changed trainers and began working with the highly respected Barry Hunter (who also trains junior welterweight titlist Lamont Peterson). The change obviously didn't help, as Serrano was overpowered by Taylor, 22, of Edgewood, Md.

Serrano started off well enough, appearing to edge Taylor in the first two rounds, but then it was all downhill. Taylor began landing nice short punches when the fighters were on the inside, and did a good job on defense to avoid most of what was coming back. He was really in a groove landing combinations and controlling the action when he badly hurt Serrano against the ropes in the sixth round. With Taylor landing a barrage of unanswered blows, referee Steve Willis stepped in to call off the fight at 1 minute, 42 seconds.

This was a good victory for Taylor, who won his second fight in a row following his lone loss (a split decision to Prenice Brewer) and put himself on the map. Stat of the fight: Taylor connected on almost double the power shots that Serrano landed, 94-48, according to CompuBox statistics.
 
by David P. Greisman

A bombshell investigation by the Miami New Times into an anti-aging clinic in the city revealed several notable athletes as clients and strongly suggests that they were recipients of performance enhancing drugs.

One of those athletes is Yuriorkis Gamboa, the Cuban Olympic gold medalist who has gone on to capture two featherweight titles and an interim 130-pound belt in the pro ranks.

The Miami New Times article cites a notebook dating back to 2009 that the newspaper received from an employee of the now-closed clinic. In it, the article says, is a listing of the drugs Gamboa was allegedly receiving from Biogenesis and Anthony Bosch.

“In the 2009 notebook, Bosch outlines an extensive program he was shipping to Gamboa. In addition to protein powders and calcium/magnesium/zinc compounds, he included a six-day-a-week HGH regime, IGF-1, and a cream with 20 percent testosterone,” the article said.

“What's more, Bosch even notes that Gamboa's next bout is scheduled against Brandon Rios the following April and writes, ‘Start clean-up Dec. 1’ — presumably giving the boxer enough time to pass doping tests. (The fight against Rios was later canceled, but Gamboa won two other fights by TKO and KO that January and February.),” the article said.

[It should be noted that those Gamboa wins were actually in early 2009, not in 2012, when Gamboa-Rios would have been taking place.]

HGH is human growth hormone. IGF-1, according to the article, “stimulates insulin production and muscle growth.” It has been banned in sports such as baseball.

The 31-year-old Gamboa is 22-0 with 16 knockouts and last fought on Dec. 8, outpointing Michael Farenas on the undercard to Juan Manuel Marquez’s knockout of Manny Pacquiao.
 
Forgot this fight was on.

Daniel Geale beats Anthony Mundine.

SYDNEY -- Daniel Geale defended his IBF middleweight title by beating Anthony Mundine by a unanimous points decision Wednesday.

Two judges scored the bout 117-111 in Geale's favor, while the third judge had it 116-112.

The defending champion said he was disappointed not to knock out his opponent, but "I did enjoy punching him."

Geale established his dominance from the onset with the 37-year-old Mundine often pegged back throughout the 12 rounds.

It was Geale's fourth title defense.
 
I'm kind of surprised that we're getting a Rios/Alvarado rematch. Not that the first fight wasn't good, I'd just thought Rios would go on to bigger and better things without the risk of getting into another brawl with Alvarado.
 
I'm kind of surprised that we're getting a Rios/Alvarado rematch. Not that the first fight wasn't good, I'd just thought Rios would go on to bigger and better things without the risk of getting into another brawl with Alvarado.
yeah, i thought Arum said he would fight the winner of Pac/Marquez
 
I'm kind of surprised that we're getting a Rios/Alvarado rematch. Not that the first fight wasn't good, I'd just thought Rios would go on to bigger and better things without the risk of getting into another brawl with Alvarado.

Agreed. Unfortunately, most of the other top 140 lbs. are promoted by Golden Boy. I don't know why Bradley wasn't considered an option to fight Rios.

I'm all for a rematch between these 2. Their first fight was an all out war. But as far as progressing Rios career, this doesn't do much.
 
I'm kind of surprised that we're getting a Rios/Alvarado rematch. Not that the first fight wasn't good, I'd just thought Rios would go on to bigger and better things without the risk of getting into another brawl with Alvarado.
yeah, i thought Arum said he would fight the winner of Pac/Marquez
only if pac won would there be a pac VS rios fight in april.

Rios should take that rematch because its nothing else out there with big fights right now at 140 or 147

was the contract golden boy sent over for Nonito Donaire to fight mares was it real?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom