Official 2013 NBA Draft Thread

[Animal Thug]

I'm just going to let the man's game speak for itself next year. He'll have a better sophomore season that Harrison Barnes will, I can bet on that.

 

[cash money 1999]

Cavs are drafting Noel #1 - no if's and' or but's.

i think he's a multiple defensive player of the year winner when he retires

hes an elite shot blocker day one and a already good rebounder with

crazy athleticism , he aint hakeem but he's the best that's available

 

[IATT]

[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:33 PM)

Aloha everyone. Thanks for coming to the chat today. I'm in NY for the Draft Lottery and big 30 team workout with the Nets today. We'll be doing draft for next 30 minutes. Let's roll ...

[h6]Patrick (Cleveland)[/h6]


What kind of offers could the Cavs expect for the #1 pick?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:34 PM)



Dont' think Cavs fans will be happy. Just talked to half the GMs in the league, and they are all looking to sell their picks. No one really wants No. 1, nor are they willing to give up a valuable asset to get it. I think the Cavs will have a hard time moving it.

[h6]Melissa (Cleveland, OH)[/h6]


Can the Cavs become contenders again by drafting Noel?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:36 PM)



Down the road ...yes. But he'll have almost zero impact in year one -- if he plays at all. And given how slight his frame is, year 2 also might be rough. Someone drafting him is looking down the road and what Noel might become ... what he is right now is raw .. a runner and a shot blocker. That's about it.

[h6]C- (US)[/h6]


The Cavs would be deadly if they drafted McLemore and brought Dion Waiters off the bench, are they committed to startind Dion regardless of him being a undersized 2 guard?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:37 PM)



Maybe ... if McLemore is going to improve the motor. Tough to take your No. 4 pick in the draft last year and move him to the bench. I LOVE McLemore's talent, but there's also a lot of Brandon Rush in him for good and bad.

[h6]Cory (Omaha, NE)[/h6]


If the Cavs take Porter with the first pick, it tells their fans that they're shooting for a playoff spot next year. If they pick Noel, it tells them that they're going to wait another year and then maybe compete. Thoughts?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:38 PM)



That's probably true. I love Porter and think he's an ideal fit in Cleveland. He helps them right away. But even with Porter, I'm not sure there's enough there for the playoffs. They'll have to make a significant addition or two via free agency.

[h6]marck (Indianapolis)[/h6]


Any chance the Orlando Magic take Victor Oladipo now that they have the 2nd pick?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:40 PM)



He's a possibility. We have them taking Trey Burke in our Mock primarily based on need. But I'm telling everyone that will listen -- Oladipo is the guy that GMs love in this draft. May be the only one. I've talked to 14 or 15 who tell me he's their favorite player. Almost zero downside and still significant upside. Not sure he's a fit in Cleveland or Washington -- but Orlando and Phoenix both look like strong fits. Burke may be a bigger need, but Oladipo might be the better player long-term.

[h6]Josh (MD)[/h6]


Who's a better fit for the Wizards at 3: Bennet or Porter?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:43 PM)



Such a tough call. Those are the two players they are high on. Both are fits. If they need more offense and potential star power Bennett is the guy. Porter gives them the high basketball IQ, the passing, the defense, all the little things. Personally, I think I like Porter a little bit more, but if I was Ernie Grunfeld, I'd be torn here.

[h6]Hunter (Charlotte)[/h6]


What do you see the Bobcats doing? Oladipo seems too similar to MKG. Hopefully Ben McLemore slips to them but if that does not happen I see Bennett or trading back as the best options.
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:44 PM)



If somehow Noel slides, I think this would be his floor. Agree that Oladipo might not be a great fit alongside MKG. McLemore and Bennett are both better fits -- McLemore for his shooting and Bennett for a major upgrade t the four. I have them taking McLemore at No. 4 but Bennett might actually end up the better player.

[h6]Andrew (New Brunswick)[/h6]


Thanks for taking questions today. Do you have a sense for how adding McDonough as GM changes the Suns' draft plans? It seems like they rank Oladipo higher now. Will they get him at five? If not, what does RM do?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:46 PM)



Think McDonough is going to try to change the culture of the Suns and to me, Oladipo is the player that can do that. He plays so hard, plays the right way, cares about winning and is willing to work hard. His offensive upside isn't as big as McLemore or others, but he's the sort of player that could in a few years, transform the culture.

[h6]Jeff (CT)[/h6]


The Pelicans really seemed to get the worst possible draw to fill their needs in this upcoming draft. Is 6 too high for Saric?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:49 PM)



They're fine. Otto Porter was probably their first choice, but he'll be long gone by there. Alex Len seems like a real possibility. You can always use another big and he has a high ceiling and less risk than some of the other players in the draft. Yes, Saric is a possibility here. He's willing to come this year and as a point 3/4 I think he'd add another intriguing dimension to the team.

[h6]Vince (Sacramento)[/h6]


Who do you see the Kings taking at #7 with the first pick in the Ranadive era?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:54 PM)



So tough to tell. First thing Kings need is a GM in place. I don't think the Kings should just stick with what they have. They need to shake things up at the top. I think an experienced GM is probably the way to go -- with the way Indiana has rebuilt, grabbing someone like David Morway might be a fit. Then they have to decide who is staying and who is going on the roster. Only then do you really have a feel of what to do here. I have them taking Michael Carter-Williams -- a big point guard who has the potential to be great.

[h6]Ryan (The D)[/h6]


I see what your doing here taking questions in draft order. Let me get one in about the Pistons. Will Dumars get lucky again and have Bennett slide or is he stuck between Muhammed, McCollum or a back-up big?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:56 PM)



Bennett would be a good fit. Muhammad might be as well, though his lack of shooting off the dribble concerns me. I love McCollum, but Joe D may have had it with combo guards. I think Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is another potential fit in Detroit. But, as you can see, the field starts to narrow.

[h6]Wile E Coyote (Minnesota)[/h6]


Hi Chad. The Wolves need a SG in the worst way (for many years running). Are they trying to move up for Oladipo? If so, will they succeed?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:57 PM)



I think they really want a shooter -- which Oladipo really isn't. I have McCollum here, but after talking to Wolves sources this morning, it might not be the right fit. I think he reminds them too much of Randy Foye. Sounds like Caldwell-Pope and Russian Sergey Karasev are in the mix. Sounds like they are intrigued with Muhammad as well, though, again, not sure he's the shooter they're looking for.

[h6]max (portland)[/h6]


What would it take for the Blazers to move up and get Oladipo?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (1:59 PM)



Teams are willing to move the pick, but it would probably take more talent than the Blazers are going to give up to move into the Top 4 to get him. Caldwell-Pope seems like a good fit there.

[h6]Chris (Newtown, Pa)[/h6]


Do u think Steven Adams is a good fit for the Sixers, cause I would love him?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (2:00 PM)



We have them taking Cody Zeller, but yes, Steven Adams is heavily on the radar screen there as well. He brings a power game that they don't have -- especially if they lose Andrew Bynum this summer.

[h6]Levi (Newcastle, OK)[/h6]


If Olynyk, Zeller, Adams, Plumlee, Dieng, Mohammed are all there at #12 for the Thunder, what's the likely pick?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (2:00 PM)



I think it would be Zeller, then Adams, then probably Dieng. Thunder can afford to focus on upside. They could also try to add another two guard here.

[h6]Fabio (Curitiba, Brazil)[/h6]


Chad, any chance Mavs either deal the 13th pick or draft an Euro player to stash him?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (2:02 PM)



Yes, I reported last night that it's LIKELY the Mavs trade the pick to clear cap space for a Dwight Howard run. Since they owe the Thunder a pick in 2014, they could only trade the pick after they made the selection on draft night (in a pre-arranged deal). They also could draft an international player if he agrees to stay overseas one more year. The Mavs could just get a letter from the player and his agent stating that and he'd come off the cap. That could be a scenario where Dario Saric goes to the Mavs.

[h6]JR (SLC)[/h6]


Really think the Jazz will pass on a point guard at 14?
[h6]Chad Ford[/h6]
  (2:04 PM)



Don't think the Jazz are convinced there's a starting PG there for them at 14. If there isn't, they take the best available player. Remember, the Jazz like PGs that can shoot the ball -- Michael Carter-Williams, Dennis Schroeder don't really qualify. Shane Larkin might be the best fit if they really want a PG, but 14 might be a little high.

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[ballinsam23]

Since we're doing what if trio's
Irving
Mclemore
Barnes

:x :x :x Cavs ****** up big time. That trio would be something else.

It's not about 20 and 5. Every player in the league can put up the numbers when afforded the playing time.

It's about doing it consistently and efficiently.

Bingo.

I'm just going to let the man's game speak for itself next year. He'll have a better sophomore season that Harrison Barnes will, I can bet on that.

Ofcourse he will because the Warriors dont need Barnes to avg 20 a game. Can he? Ofcourse. Meanwhile if Dion doesnt avg 20 a game the Cavs wont sniff the playoffs.

 

[datznasty]

I thought for sure even if it were close between him and other prospects, Barnes' preexisting relationship with Irving would put him over the top as the pick. Either way, take Noel this yr, miss the playoffs again (better option than scratching to get an 8 seed and getting swept by Miami), get Wiggins/Randle/Gordon depending on what ping pong ball bounces your way next year. Trade Varajeo's 9million expiring for some more immediate help vets. Profit.

 

[IATT]

we all know the cavs are going to make a run at lebron next season..

so they should draft noel, let him get healthy.. hope they sign lebron next summer.. go after someone like thabo (a SG who can play defense and can hit wideopen 3s), who will be a free agent next summer (then you can bring waiters off of the bench)

so you have a starting 5 of:

kyrie

thabo

lebron

thompson

noel

6th man: waiters

 

[ballinsam23]

Dion fits that 6th man role perfectly on a real good team down the line. Right now he's a starting SG on the cavs though.

If i'm the Cavs:

1. Draft Noel
2. See if you can trade Tristan or Varejeo + later pick for another top 3 pick to draft Otto or Ben
3. Sign Al Jefferson

Kyrie-Dion-Otto-Al Jeff-Noel is a real good start imo.

 

[finallyfamous]

LeBron 2014 . .. There's a 300 page thread on the Cavs board discussing it ... I don't even want to talk about it.

Apparently he donated 1M to SVSM for a brand new arena. His kids are going to school in NE Ohio next fall and he's in the process of adding a few milion addition to his house in Bath, Ohio. Just saying

Ill stop now its not worth it

 

[frshstunna]

On Dion Waiters

1. Waiters would not be a valible at 17, no chance, Raptors or Warriors would have taken him, they were locked into Waiters or Barnes. Raptors got neither.

2. If Dion Waiters is your starting 2 guard then you have a serious problems.

3. That Draft pick was a MISTAKE, an idiotic mistake, drafting my man Tristan is also turning out to be a mistake,

they need to reevaluate their entire scouting process.

Give waiters the same minutes as lilliard and hes giving you 20 and 5 a night

One of the best scorers in that draft, a rookie able to split the pick and roll and get to the lane like he does will have a good future, just needs a consistent jumper and stay in shape

4. The cavs picked a shooting guard, who doesn't have a consistent jumper and needs "stay in shape" top 5. When you put it like that it becomes even more ridiculous

5. Damian Lillard has an awesome jumpshot and is in great shape, why are you comparing them?

This post is a 100% right...how did the Cavs manage to turn 2 top four picks into Thompson and Wiaters ?? :x ...The way they draft, no suprises if Otto Porter really is the first pick...

 

[finallyfamous]

No dude .. If they draft like recent they'll take VO or Len just to mess with us

 

[sohi 23]

Draft Noel. If they don't make the playoffs so what, 2014 is the year they should be getting excited for.
If they suck early, start tanking and get as high a draft pick as possible.
Kyrie+Noel+lotterypick2014+Waiters+Thompson+Zeller.
Then u gotta beg LeBron to return, which honestly if I was him I would. He might really run off 8 titles with a better core.
Miami is only sustainable for 2 years tops. D-Wade is going down rapidly and that contract isn't going anywhere.

 

[hypebeast5]

I'm just going to let the man's game speak for itself next year. He'll have a better sophomore season that Harrison Barnes will, I can bet on that.

That without a doubt is correct he will have a better season because hes the second scoring option on a bad team, while Barnes is the 4th option on a healthy warriors team

Without a doubt Barnes would of fit better on the cavs

 

[ballinsam23]

Bobcats better take Bennett. Dude is too offensively gifted and strong to be a bust.

 

[finallyfamous]

I really think they drafted Thompson so they can stay in contact with Rich Paul.

I don't know what the Cavs will do.. I do think they keep the pick unless they get a deal they can't turn down

I agree about Noel. They need a SF so badly so gotta get one via FA.

 

[awwsome]

Bobcats better take Bennett. Dude is too offensively gifted and strong to be a bust.

All the potential in the world but injury prone, asthma, no defense and can get fat easily.

 

[Animal Thug]

That without a doubt is correct he will have a better season because hes the second scoring option on a bad team, while Barnes is the 4th option on a healthy warriors team

Without a doubt Barnes would of fit better on the cavs

Thanks for your opinion.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

LeBron 2014

. .. There's a 300 page thread on the Cavs board discussing it ... I don't even want to talk about it.

Apparently he donated 1M to SVSM for a brand new arena. His kids are going to school in NE Ohio next fall and he's in the process of adding a few milion addition to his house in Bath, Ohio. Just saying

Ill stop now its not worth it

 it really isn't worth it.

Lebron has always been on record for having love for Akron, and his home state. Hell, he for sure still considers it home.

 

[victor page]

Shane Larkin posted a 44 inch vert 

 

[jjs07]

Saw this on Dime mag this morning...6'10" PG from Greece. Haven't watched the vid yet...but that size

Curious if he can actually play

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I watched one full game tape of him, the competition level is about elite AAU, peach Jam high school quality, basically have view him as a old shcool high school prospect.

To call him a PG is too much, but is obviously is an excellent ball handler passer, incredibly versatile, you can see him playing positions 1-5 in the game.

jump shot not broken but not a consistent shooter
not a leaper, but incredibly fluid running the court and handling the ball.


Complete lottery pick, could end up like Paul George, Nic Batum or Ndudi Ebi

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Is he going to be Molasses slow like Kyle Anderson?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Is he going to be Molasses slow like Kyle Anderson?

Nah he's kind of like Kawhi Leonard athletically, not a leaper, but "fluid" and quick.


Kyle Anderson is dog **** slow and rickety as ****, moves like an old man.

 

[jumpmantwenty3]

that guy's body is like a clone of KD's

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

Is he going to be Molasses slow like Kyle Anderson?

Is he going to be Molasses slow like Kyle Anderson?

Nah he's kind of like Kawhi Leonard athletically, not a leaper, but "fluid" and quick.


Kyle Anderson is dog **** slow and rickety as ****, moves like an old man.

my young boy Slow-Mo has always been that slow, even back in elementary and high school .. he's got that raw Paul Pierce type of game but he hasn't figured out how to use it to his advantage.. not sure if UCLA was the right move for him though, I thought he was headed to Seton Hall for sure.

 

[jjs07]

Any thoughts on Tony Mitchell?

Imagine him on a team w/ a coach who demands max effort? I wonder how'd he would fare on a team like the Bulls under Thibs?