Official 2013 NBA Draft Thread

Brondiesel said:
I really believe a lot of teams will regret not drafting Shabazz 2-3 years from now. I like his game. My fav player in this draft.
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I'm with you on that. A lot of hate on him, especially in this thread, but he's going to excel in the right situation. I hope he goes to Detroit or Minnesota.
 
I'd be fine with 1.) Caldwell-Pope OR 2.) Bazz at #9.

#9 is too low for Muhammad by a couple spots, and Caldwell-Pope has slowly risen to the Top 10 two days before the draft, lets hope he doesn't keep rising.
 
Honestly....Porter would probably be the smartest choice for the Cavs to pick. But they seem like they won't draft or sign a SF worth **** til LeBron is a free agent next year. Kyrie-Waiters-Porter-Thompson-Varejao could be a playoff team in the East next year though.
 
JPZx said:
I'd be fine with 1.) Caldwell-Pope OR 2.) Bazz at #9.

#9 is too low for Muhammad by a couple spots, and Caldwell-Pope has slowly risen to the Top 10 two days before the draft, lets hope he doesn't keep rising.
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You do realize Shabazz could slip like a lot very easily...into the 20's?
 
As he should because nothing he's done or shown makes him lottery pick unless we're still rating him on his HS potential
 
Shabazz does have enough talent to end up being the kind of player that ends up sliding to a good team and then make people regret missing on him. See Kawhi Leonard (granted he only fell out of the lottery by one spot).

Not saying that happens but you have to imagine if he ends up sliding to a playoff team mid-late 1st (ATL, BK, LAC, etc) he COULD end up a great value that low.
 
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Buc Em said:
Honestly....Porter would probably be the smartest choice for the Cavs to pick. But they seem like they won't draft or sign a SF worth **** til LeBron is a free agent next year. Kyrie-Waiters-Porter-Thompson-Varejao could be a playoff team in the East next year though.
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Its a better chance that line up misses the playoffs than makes it
 
What's crazy is that Shabazz averaged 18 and 5 last year, better than both Porter and McLemore...it's not like he straight bummed out. He was pretty consistent all year really. His team just played really poorly and he had a few moments that left a bad taste in some people's mouth. Somebody is going to get a big-time steal with him if he drops anywhere from 15 and up.
 
Rockets in advanced talks on trade for Thomas Robinson

The Rockets are in advanced talks on a cap-clearing trade of forward Thomas Robinson, with a deal potentially “imminent,” a person with knowledge of their plans said on Tuesday.

The Cleveland Cavaliers and San Antonio Spurs have shown interest in Robinson, according to another individual with knowledge of the Rockets efforts to move Robinson’s $3.5 million salary next season. Though it would be difficult for the Spurs to make any sort of deal for Robinson directly with the Rockets and would likely have to add a third team in a larger deal.

The Rockets have also had talks with the Chicago Bulls, according to the person familiar with negotiations so far, but he said that unlike with the Spurs and Cavaliers, he did not know if the Bulls were interested in Robinson or could be part of a larger deal.

The Rockets would want to move Robinson without bringing back corresponding salary to clear enough cap room to offer a max contract in free agency next month. They would have to clear roughly the equivalent of Robinson’s contract next season to have enough cap room to offer Dwight Howard his maximum salary.

There are 16 teams with the cap room, trade exceptions or non-guaranteed contracts needed to make such a deal without sending the Rockets corresponding salaries.

The Cavaliers can make that kind of deal with some of their available cap room. In addition to their own pick, the Cavaliers have the 19th pick and two second-round picks before the Rockets’ selection with the 34th pick.

The Bulls are over the cap, but have a trade exception that is large enough to make a deal that will expire next month. The Bulls have the 20th pick in the draft.

The Spurs have only their own pick, the 28th pick overall, in Thursday’s first round and would not seem to have a way to make such a trade possible directly with the Rockets.

If the Rockets move into the first round in Thursday’s draft, they could select an international prospect that would assure that he would stay overseas next season, allowing them to not use cap space with the pick. They could seek a future pick with the 2014 draft class expected to be unusually strong.

The Rockets could move two of their three rookies last season that were drafted in the first round to clear the cap room necessary, but would rather have to trade one of their prospects than two. The deal to acquire Robinson was made in part because of a belief that he would be easier to deal than Patrick Patterson or a combination of last season’s rookies.

The Rockets also could opt to make a cap-clearing deal next month if it becomes necessary and according to a person familiar with their thinking, would prefer to keep Robinson until the cap room is necessary to sign Howard. There have been indications, however, that teams have been more receptive to deals before the draft in order to be able to consider the acquisition when making their draft choices.
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Circumstances come into play, but damn. Three teams in twelve months. :smh:
 
thunder need to get in on a thomas robinson deal.. we have 3 non guaranteed deals in: orton, thabeet and liggins
 
What dont these gm's see in t rob, i kno hes undersized but he has a motor, agressive player and a decent jumper
 
They see a black, more athletic Tyler Hansbraugh who thinks he can dribble and shoot :lol: :lol:
 
Black Migo said:
What dont these gm's see in t rob, i kno hes undersized but he has a motor, agressive player and a decent jumper
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Honestly what i dont understand is why teams draft project players yet dont invest the time in them

Not saying he was a project player but its obvious the kings didnt want to invest the time on improving him
 
*the Maloofs didn't want to pay out the rest of his rookie salary :lol:

There is a difference between that and not wanting to develop him
 
Kenneth Faried at best. What I don't get is that the article above says Houston traded for him thinking it'd be easier to move him than Patterson. That doesn't make sense to me. Patterson is the much more refined player right now and he makes less than Robinson.
 
rck2sactown said:
*the Maloofs didn't want to pay out the rest of his rookie salary
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There is a difference between that and not wanting to develop him
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Is there? Why spend a lotto pick on him then? 
 
Because trading the pick for a player would (likely) only add a player with an even larger contract :lol: pretty simple really.

Maloofs=spend as little money as possible

See how they packaged Throb and Cisco's last year of his contract for two expiring contracts (to meet the salary floor) and P-Pat who is making less than Throb? :lol: not hard to see at all
 
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When Thomas Robinson got traded from the Kings, I figured it was due to money. But the more I watched him and Patrick Patterson, I think it was a basketball trade too. Patterson fits better next to DeMarcus Cousins than Robinson and he's his UK buddy too.

It's early, but I think Robinson is going to have to re-invent his game. He might have to go the energy, hustle guy route instead of the top option on a team route.

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Lightweight Champion said:
Kenneth Faried at best. What I don't get is that the article above says Houston traded for him thinking it'd be easier to move him than Patterson. That doesn't make sense to me. Patterson is the much more refined player right now and he makes less than Robinson.
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The Rockets were probably banking on teams gambling on a high level prospect who might just be adjusting his rookie year rather than Patterson, who's a finished product more or less entering his contract year.
 
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^agreed. In hindsight it was an alright trade, Douglas and Aldrich ended up being an added bonus. But at the time, it was understandable to be upset at the trade
 
PMatic said:
When Thomas Robinson got traded from the Kings, I figured it was due to money. But the more I watched him and Patrick Patterson, I think it was a basketball trade too. Patterson fits better next to DeMarcus Cousins than Robinson and he's his UK buddy too.

It's early, but I think Robinson is going to have to re-invent his game. He might have to go the energy, hustle guy route instead of the top option on a team route.
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I was so confused watching him play during the Kings SL last year. Dude was taking jumper after jumper and hardly resembled the player he was at Kansas. Somewhere along the way he lost his game.

You're completely right...he's gonna have to go the energy/hustle route to stay in the league. 3 teams in 2 years is troubling for a top-5 pick.
 
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