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Consequence still mad at 'Ye. This mog is hilarious!
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damn, Ye only paid him 20 stacks for that?
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SMH. i never seen this. this was the one that blew him up too. I could see buyin the beat with the sample an what not but the whole first verses too? thats some puff daddy ish*coughs*
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oh ya, this was performed BEFORE kanye paid him 20 stacks to make the song his own... that's some great "bouncing off ideas" to me...
i wonder if he gave him some more money after that ish blew up tho
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Mind was blown from that video.
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I wasn't referring to his interview, I was speaking in general. I agree it came off a whiny etc, but he answered the question he was asked. The gossiping etc was overkill, but he didn't duck the question.
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Damn!!!! Mind is blown, has no idea this wasn't ye's song
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Nice info about Jesus Walks. I knew 'Fest wrote that, but I never knew about Kanye buying his own beat back and the changes he made to the song.
Wish "Brand New" and "Grammy Family" blew up for Cons and Fest. Those were probably 2 of my favorite songs fron around that time. Rhymefest's 06 album was dope as hell too.
Wish "Brand New" and "Grammy Family" blew up for Cons and Fest. Those were probably 2 of my favorite songs fron around that time. Rhymefest's 06 album was dope as hell too.
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you got cats killing DREAMS in this thread
Santa Claus aint real
the Easter Bunny really aint leaving money under the pillow
and Kanye (NT's prodigal son) is NOT the lyricist hes given credit for
...whats next?
i mean, this negro launched a mega multi million dollar CAREER off that song alone. if Rhymefest aint getting multiple points off anything Kanye related since then he got jerked
Santa Claus aint real
the Easter Bunny really aint leaving money under the pillow
and Kanye (NT's prodigal son) is NOT the lyricist hes given credit for
...whats next?
i mean, this negro launched a mega multi million dollar CAREER off that song alone. if Rhymefest aint getting multiple points off anything Kanye related since then he got jerked
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"Top 5 MCs you gotta rewind me" my *** 
These dudes were just as essential in Ye's career as NO ID, Jay and Dame were. You mean to tell me Kanye was too much of a "bigger man" to not pick up the phone and just say congratulations?
These dudes were just as essential in Ye's career as NO ID, Jay and Dame were. You mean to tell me Kanye was too much of a "bigger man" to not pick up the phone and just say congratulations?
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Let's chill sir . . . Gold Digger (with a boost from Jamie Foxx/Ray association and the Katrina comments) and Stronger (along with the Graduation album in general) were what made him THE Kanye West
He could have easily dropped College Dropout and then came with a second album dud
Bottom line, ghostwriters or not, Kanye's "strength" has never been being the most lyrical . . . it's the ability to construct songs, produce, and knowing pop culture trends and being able to predict how people will react to different things.
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"Gold Digger and Stronger are what made him Kanye West" son how many 
you want?
College drop out and Late registration had a plethora of hits on them they're what made him the "Legend", many of you believe that he is. And both albums were brought to you thanks to Consequence, Rhyme Fest etc...
you want?College drop out and Late registration had a plethora of hits on them they're what made him the "Legend", many of you believe that he is. And both albums were brought to you thanks to Consequence, Rhyme Fest etc...
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How many"Gold Digger and Stronger are what made him Kanye West" son how manyyou want?
College drop out and Late registration had a plethora of hits on them they're what made him the "Legend", many of you believe that he is. And both albums were brought to you thanks to Consequence, Rhyme Fest etc...
Dude said Jesus Walks made his career . . . whichever album you think is better is irrelevant . . . I said Gold Digger, Stronger (and moreso Graduation and the whole radio-friendly sound throughout that album) are what made Ye a staple in mainstream America
Even if we stop at College Dropout and Late Reg . . . Cons and Rhymefest didn't touch a MPC, didn't bring in Jon Brion and co. to get that orchestra sound, etc.
Kanye has never been the best lyricist, but he definitely is the best at bringing a well-rounded and complete sounding album with no filler (barring Cruel Summer I can't defend him on that, he put Keef and 2 Chainz on the album
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"Gold Digger and Stronger are what made him Kanye West" son how many
College drop out and Late registration had a plethora of hits on them they're what made him the "Legend", many of you believe that he is. And both albums were brought to you thanks to Consequence, Rhyme Fest etc...
How many
Dude said Jesus Walks made his career . . . whichever album you think is better is irrelevant . . . I said Gold Digger, Stronger (and moreso Graduation and the whole radio-friendly sound throughout that album) are what made Ye a staple in mainstream America
Even if we stop at College Dropout and Late Reg . . . Cons and Rhymefest didn't touch a MPC, didn't bring in Jon Brion and co. to get that orchestra sound, etc.
Kanye has never been the best lyricist, but he definitely is the best at bringing a well-rounded and complete sounding album with no filler (barring Cruel Summer I can't defend him on that, he put Keef and 2 Chainz on the album)
He was already a staple in mainstream America before those two songs, and it's because Jesus Walks shook up the world. Gold Digger was a huge hit I'll give you that, but "Stronger" ? really bruh? I'm not denying the song's success, but you're quick to forget his highly publicized contest with 50 cent (who was a staple in mainstream America at the time) to see who would sell more. The competition definitely pushed singles and album sells up for these two.
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Oh yeah that 50 thing definitely helped him out I agree with you there (That 106 episode was so dope), but have nothing to do with Cons or Rhymefest, & like I said, Graduation and that era for Ye in general (Mom situation and the Grammy performance too) is what cemented him.He was already a staple in mainstream America before those two songs, and it's because Jesus Walks shook up the world. Gold Digger was a huge hit I'll give you that, but "Stronger" ? really bruh? I'm not denying the song's success, but you're quick to forget his highly publicized contest with 50 cent (who was a staple in mainstream America at the time) to see who would sell more. The competition definitely pushed singles and album sells up for these two."Gold Digger and Stronger are what made him Kanye West" son how manyyou want?
College drop out and Late registration had a plethora of hits on them they're what made him the "Legend", many of you believe that he is. And both albums were brought to you thanks to Consequence, Rhyme Fest etc...How manydo YOU want lolDude said Jesus Walks made his career . . . whichever album you think is better is irrelevant . . . I said Gold Digger, Stronger (and moreso Graduation and the whole radio-friendly sound throughout that album) are what made Ye a staple in mainstream AmericaEven if we stop at College Dropout and Late Reg . . . Cons and Rhymefest didn't touch a MPC, didn't bring in Jon Brion and co. to get that orchestra sound, etc.Kanye has never been the best lyricist, but he definitely is the best at bringing a well-rounded and complete sounding album with no filler (barring Cruel Summer I can't defend him on that, he put Keef and 2 Chainz on the album)
And like I said from the start, The 50 contest, Graduation, the production, the orchestras, the bringing in of Jon Brion and Mike Dean, etc. were way more important than Rhymefest doing the first verse of Jesus Walks. Cons and Rhymefest would be in Kanye West's position if they were as important to West's legacy as people in this thread are trying to make it out to be, all I'm getting at.
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"Top 5 MCs you gotta rewind me" my ***
These dudes were just as essential in Ye's career as NO ID, Jay and Dame were. You mean to tell me Kanye was too much of a "bigger man" to not pick up the phone and just say congratulations?
kanye learned alot more from jay-z then we give him credit for.
if da revalations that kanye basically doesn't write **** and got people to write for him, HAVOC > kanye in terms of best rapping producer.
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The first time Kanye got a HUGE look was when he performed Jesus Walks at the MTV Video awards with that big a** choir and what not. It wasnt the only thing that made him a star but it put him in the limelight for those next songs to get him further.
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Stop arguing. Everybody knows Graduation is what made 'Ye
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No questionkanye learned alot more from jay-z then we give him credit for."Top 5 MCs you gotta rewind me" my ***
These dudes were just as essential in Ye's career as NO ID, Jay and Dame were. You mean to tell me Kanye was too much of a "bigger man" to not pick up the phone and just say congratulations?
if da revalations that kanye basically doesn't write **** and got people to write for him, HAVOC > kanye in terms of best rapping producer.
IMB>anything kanye related
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Damb minus well change the thread title to kanye gettin exposed
I understand having people help with the writing process cuz I'm pretty sure labels have songwriters signed and they gotta put them dudes to work so I can understand having them provide you with a hook or maybe even some concepts or a line or two
But to have another rapper blessing you with a whole verse nah son
I understand having people help with the writing process cuz I'm pretty sure labels have songwriters signed and they gotta put them dudes to work so I can understand having them provide you with a hook or maybe even some concepts or a line or two
But to have another rapper blessing you with a whole verse nah son
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College Dropout ,Late Reisgtrstion are what made ye .He introduced folks to a young Lupe Fiasco who won't on to drop two great albums .Folks forget that Kanye was the Everyman rapper at first he coulda easily been an nter he talked about being broke ,being young black and working a crispy mall job and struggling with school and his future .He was the product of a post different world gangsta rap era black kid .He was the black middle class embodiment at one point in time young black male with no clue what to do what to stand for bit knew he had to fit in this Boack world some how.
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"Gold Digger and Stronger are what made him Kanye West" son how many
College drop out and Late registration had a plethora of hits on them they're what made him the "Legend", many of you believe that he is. And both albums were brought to you thanks to Consequence, Rhyme Fest etc...
How many
Dude said Jesus Walks made his career . . . whichever album you think is better is irrelevant . . . I said Gold Digger, Stronger (and moreso Graduation and the whole radio-friendly sound throughout that album) are what made Ye a staple in mainstream America
Even if we stop at College Dropout and Late Reg . . . Cons and Rhymefest didn't touch a MPC, didn't bring in Jon Brion and co. to get that orchestra sound, etc.
Kanye has never been the best lyricist, but he definitely is the best at bringing a well-rounded and complete sounding album with no filler (barring Cruel Summer I can't defend him on that, he put Keef and 2 Chainz on the album
without that SOLID rock hard foundation of college dropout and late registration, there is no kanye west now...period.
kanye west gonna go down in history sure, but he's gonna get looked upon da same way DR. dre does...awesome producer, and innovator with sound
but da pen game got balco taint on it.
and unlike other cats on this website, i dont subscribe into kanye west did fashion wise, i respect da jewelry, but clothes? it
was never that serious, he stopped being relate-able after graduation...son just off da deep end wit leather skirts.
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how does one read this centered nonsense?How many"Gold Digger and Stronger are what made him Kanye West" son how manyyou want?
College drop out and Late registration had a plethora of hits on them they're what made him the "Legend", many of you believe that he is. And both albums were brought to you thanks to Consequence, Rhyme Fest etc...do YOU want lol
Dude said Jesus Walks made his career . . . whichever album you think is better is irrelevant . . . I said Gold Digger, Stronger (and moreso Graduation and the whole radio-friendly sound throughout that album) are what made Ye a staple in mainstream America
Even if we stop at College Dropout and Late Reg . . . Cons and Rhymefest didn't touch a MPC, didn't bring in Jon Brion and co. to get that orchestra sound, etc.
Kanye has never been the best lyricist, but he definitely is the best at bringing a well-rounded and complete sounding album with no filler (barring Cruel Summer I can't defend him on that, he put Keef and 2 Chainz on the album)
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^one doesn't.
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Jesus Walks 
I don't know brahs.. this would lower a lot of peoples opinion of Kanye if they knew..
I don't know brahs.. this would lower a lot of peoples opinion of Kanye if they knew..
