'Mantyhose' Are The Latest Hot Trend In Menswear VOL. da emasculation of man is upon us.

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Big J 33 said:
PowerBallin said:
Big J 33 said:
PowerBallin said:
It is popular belief on NT that the world hasn't been shaped the way it is for a reason.  They don't agree with science and believe in the genetic differences that control our emotional and physical differences.  This science isn't true to them.  They don't believe in the thousands of years of men being leaders.  They don't believe in the hierarchy of men being decided by a combination physical stature, intelligence, and social skills.  In their opinions women and men have no roles in life and any combination of people will result in a healthy productive relationship. 
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It's that some believe in progress. Simply because things have always been a certain way in life, doesn't mean that it's the correct way. Women used to not be allowed to own property and vote. What "science" dictated that? And why did it change? 

What's to believe about thousands of years of men being leaders? Have these men not lead millions upon millions into war and death? Have these men not committed genocide, mass murders, torture, rape, slavery, and other countless atrocities? Or do we only look at the good men when examining our past? 

Tell me, using "science", why a man is better suited to be the leader of a country and a woman is less suited. Don't forget to use physical stature and social skills in your explanation. Because as you say, "the hierarchy of men have been decided" by those factors. 

The issue has and always will be that rigid adherence to gender roles is a problematic concept. Not only is it based on a societal norm that changes from culture to culture, and evolves over time... but it's simply illogical at times. It's easy as a man to say gender roles are important and things should be a certain way because you're in a position of power. Don't be afraid and believe that men are suddenly marginalized. If you were to switch places with a woman, most people who argue for these archaic gender roles would not feel the same way. 
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I've never said one is better than the other.  I've always said the sexes are equal not the same.  You have your opinion and I have mine.  All I ask is don't put words in my mouth or make assumptions.
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What a cop out answer.
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Lets not act like we are strangers.  You've continued to post conflicting ideas in several threads.  You believe what you want and  I agree with science and history.  We can disagree.  Is that not enough for you?  Did you want to engage in pages of pointless back and forth knowing we will never reach an agreement?  Why say cop out?
 
All of these other meandering,out of context arguments, straw men and red herrings aside, can we reach a consensus that skirts and pantyhose are feminine at least?
 
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All of these other meandering,out of context arguments, straw men and red herrings aside, can we reach a consensus that skirts and pantyhose are feminine at least?
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Yes, as deemed by our society, skirts and pantyhose are feminine articles of clothing.

What does that mean?  That the person wearing them is automatically made feminine?

What does a tuxedo mean then?  Does it instantly make a low life upscale and classy or is he just a low life wearing a tuxedo?
 
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ServeChilled81 said:
JChambers said:
All of these other meandering,out of context arguments, straw men and red herrings aside, can we reach a consensus that skirts and pantyhose are feminine at least?
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Yes, as deemed by our society, skirts and pantyhose are feminine articles of clothing.

What does that mean?  That the person wearing them is automatically made feminine?

What does a tuxedo mean then?  Does it instantly make a low life upscale and classy or is he just a low life wearing a tuxedo?
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The way you dress matters and is a reflection of who you are. 
 
ServeChilled81 said:
JChambers said:
All of these other meandering,out of context arguments, straw men and red herrings aside, can we reach a consensus that skirts and pantyhose are feminine at least?
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Yes, as deemed by our society, skirts and pantyhose are feminine articles of clothing.
What does that mean?  That the person wearing the is automatically made feminine?
What does a tuxedo mean then?  Does it instantly make a low life upscale and classy or is he just a low life wearing a tuxedo?
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There we go, I don't care about your other questions. I was correct, skirts and pantyhose are feminine. If you wear mantyhose or teeskirts, you are wearing feminine clothing.That's the only point that I was trying to make, I don't care to debate the negative aspects of society ascribing certain terms to males or females, or argue semantics.
 
We don't have to agree and likely won't but saying that I believe what I want and you believe in science and history is kind of bizarre. You can't just say you "believe" in those things as if it backs up your argument and nullified mine. Not only did you not use "science" when I asked a question, but you act as if I too can't believe in history. I have a degree in it, so it's safe to say I believe in it as well.

We don't have to agree but don't be disingenuous. And just because we won't convince each other 100% doesn't mean a healthy conversation couldn't be beneficial to either of us or others who might read and participate.
 
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We don't have to agree and likely won't but saying that I believe what I want and you believe in science and history is kind of bizarre. You can't just say you "believe" in those things as if it backs up your argument and nullified mine. Not only did you not use "science" when I asked a question, but you act as if I too can't believe in history. I have a degree in it, so it's safe to say I believe in it as well.

We don't have to agree but don't be disingeous. And just because we won't convince each other 100% doesn't mean a healthy conversation couldn't be beneficial to either of us or others who might read and participate.
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Big J I've tried to converse with you before and quite frankly your tone and language has been nothing short of disrespectful. If you want to discuss this then I'm game but don't forget you are talking to another grown man who is simply discussing a topic.  Nothing I've said has been disingeous thus far.
 
JChambers said:
ServeChilled81 said:
JChambers said:
All of these other meandering,out of context arguments, straw men and red herrings aside, can we reach a consensus that skirts and pantyhose are feminine at least?
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Yes, as deemed by our society, skirts and pantyhose are feminine articles of clothing.
What does that mean?  That the person wearing the is automatically made feminine?
What does a tuxedo mean then?  Does it instantly make a low life upscale and classy or is he just a low life wearing a tuxedo?
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There we go, I don't care about your other questions. I was correct, skirts and pantyhose are feminine. If you wear mantyhose or teeskirts, you are wearing feminine clothing.That's the only point that I was trying to make, I don't care to debate the negative aspects of society ascribing certain terms to males or females, or argue semantics.
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but what does that meaannnnn, that couldn't have been all you were trying to say in this thread, there is no point to be made then if all the discussion

was about is whether or not the clothing is feminine...
 
Well we're off to a bad start because I can't recall being disrespectful :lol: . If anything, I've matched whatever attitude and tone you've brought to the conversation.

This thread isn't about us so I'll apologize for past disrespect and move on. Whatever discussion in the future will take that into consideration.
 
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Yo I went to the store in some long johns with a fair isle print on them under basketball shorts this evening. I also went on all my runs last week in thermal running tights cause it was damn cold. Am I a mantyhose-r?
 
ServeChilled81 said:
JChambers said:
ServeChilled81 said:
JChambers said:
All of these other meandering,out of context arguments, straw men and red herrings aside, can we reach a consensus that skirts and pantyhose are feminine at least?
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Yes, as deemed by our society, skirts and pantyhose are feminine articles of clothing.

What does that mean?  That the person wearing the is automatically made feminine?

What does a tuxedo mean then?  Does it instantly make a low life upscale and classy or is he just a low life wearing a tuxedo?
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There we go, I don't care about your other questions. I was correct, skirts and pantyhose are feminine. If you wear mantyhose or teeskirts, you are wearing feminine clothing.That's the only point that I was trying to make, I don't care to debate the negative aspects of society ascribing certain terms to males or females, or argue semantics.
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but what does that meaannnnn, that couldn't have been all you were trying to say in this thread, there is no point to be made then if all the discussion
was about is whether or not the clothing is feminine...
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Yes, that is what I was trying to say, that is what it was all about, people trying to tell me that pantyhose and skirts aren't feminine. You are the only one responding.I see that there are still a lot of crickets from some other people in here who had a lot to say a while ago.
 
Ayo, what the hell is going on?


I only wear compression shorts when training or balling, anything else is :smh:.
 
airblaster503 said:
Yo I went to the store in some long johns with a fair isle print on them under basketball shorts this evening. I also went on all my runs last week in thermal running tights cause it was damn cold. Am I a mantyhose-r?
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In the year 2056, Lon Johns with prints will be considered feminine mantyhose, so yes, you are a mantyhoser. :D
 
ServeChilled81 said:
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So then a tuxedo does mean a lowlife wearing one is in fact a gentleman?
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If a lowlife is wearing a tuxedo, he is wearing masculine clothing. No more straw men, please. Are the terms "lowlife" and "criminal" social constructs?
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all terms are socially constructed
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I didn't say that a man wearing pantyhose was a woman, did I? I said he is feminine, a lowlife wearing a tuxedo would indeed be masculine. Let's not deal with straw man arguments. I will show you respect because at least you replied to my question, unlike some other cowards.
 
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ServeChilled81 said:
So then a tuxedo does mean a lowlife wearing one is in fact a gentleman?
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not really

low life wearing tux = lowlife dressing like a "gentleman"

man wearing dress/skirt (in america today) = man dressing like a woman

that's it really
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and that's all, but when the terms femininity and masculinity are used

a very different message is being conveyed.
 
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00david00 said:
ServeChilled81 said:
So then a tuxedo does mean a lowlife wearing one is in fact a gentleman?
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not really


low life wearing tux = lowlife dressing like a "gentleman"


man wearing dress/skirt (in america today) = man dressing like a woman


that's it really
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and that's all, but when the terms feminist and masculinity are used
a very different message is being conveyed.
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What message is conveyed? Dude's on here getting mad because people are saying that they are wearing feminine clothing, but we have reached an agreement that it is true. Also, the fact remains that most people you run into when wearing something like that, will think that you are homosexual. If you have no problem with that, cool, but don't try to change the dictionary to fit your dress style.(speaking in general, I don't know if you personally wear all of that or not.)
 
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Big J 33 said:
Well we're off to a bad start because I can't recall being disrespectful
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. If anything, I've matched whatever attitude and tone you've brought to the conversation.

This thread isn't about us so I'll apologize for past disrespect and move on. Whatever discussion in the future will take that into consideration.
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Clean slate.

I believe that men and women are equal but different.  There's a ying and yang to life and that can't change without problems.  The social constructs and gender roles are not 100% correct or accurate but they are there for a reason.  Thats my point.  I can't be a man with a pink mohawk wearing a hello kitty t-shirt and leggings and actually believe I should live free of criticism and judgement.  The majority of our culture being America...and thats all I have the energy to talk about....is about heterosexual semi-christian beliefs with white ideas/culture leading the country.  Thats life right now.  If you choose to step outside those boundaries then you are deserving of criticism.  All men are different but being a confident, physical fit, charismatic man who values "traditional" gender roles will get you further in life. A woman can't be the same as a man because of history and science.  The hormones that make us different come into play and we both know that.  ALSO a man can't do the things a woman can do.  We both need each other but to say we can replace each other is down right silly IMO
 
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