'Mantyhose' Are The Latest Hot Trend In Menswear VOL. da emasculation of man is upon us.

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a message that would lead most to assume that because someone is wearing a particular article of clothing

that person also acts according to definition of said article.
 
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a message that would lead most to assume that because someone is wearing a particular article of clothing

that person also acts according to definition of said article.
yes. I come to your door wearing a ski mask will you not be alarmed?

My question is why dress in a manner that isn't true to yourself? 
 
a message that would lead most to assume that because someone is wearing a particular article of clothing
that person also acts according to definition of said article.


Yep, that is the society we live in, like I said before, if you wanna wear a skirt and not be viewed as gay or feminine, then move to Scotland, Sri Lanka or get a time machine. Peace to those who could have a decent discussion and concede that they were wrong on some points (as I did with the whole "inherent" issue") and those who didn't can go to hell because a "man" admits when he is wrong. I am not discussing this mantyhose or manskirt issue on here anymore. It is feminine. Check out this thread, it may be beneficial to some of you:

http://niketalk.com/t/523503/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-a-better-person#post_17105939
 
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a message that would lead most to assume that because someone is wearing a particular article of clothing

that person also acts according to definition of said article.
yes. I come to your door wearing a ski mask will you not be alarmed?

My question is why dress in a manner that isn't true to yourself? 
it depends on whether or not you believe criminal behavioral characteristics are as fluid gender roles

i don't really think this is so.  

I can foolishly assume your face is cold by your ski mask, you can assume a dude wearing a skirt is feminine 

you can assume all you want but it doesn't make you right.

are they not dressing in a manner true to themselves or are they not dressing in the manner you expect?  How could we know?
 
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a message that would lead most to assume that because someone is wearing a particular article of clothing

that person also acts according to definition of said article.
yes. I come to your door wearing a ski mask will you not be alarmed?

My question is why dress in a manner that isn't true to yourself? 
it depends on whether or not you believe criminal behavioral characteristics are as fluid gender roles

i don't really think this is so.  

I can foolishly assume your face is cold by your ski mask, you can assume a dude wearing a skirt is feminine 

you can assume all you want but it doesn't make you right.

are they not dressing in a manner true to themselves or are they not dressing in the manner you expect?  How could we know?
I'm not sure you are even on the same topic as me.

My point was if you dress a certain way that is how you will be perceived.  That was the message of the Dave Chappelle video.  If you dress a certain way the public will think of you as that.  Its pretty simple. 
 
Yo Ant, quit wasting keystrokes on this ninja.

He has proven, time and time again, to be blockhead on matters of this nature. It baffles me how someone can be in this society for 30+ years and still be as ignorant, on this specific issue, as he is...:lol:

Leechin' of moms and got the nerve to criticize others for their supposed "lack of manliness". Too much fanta sea...:lol:



...

Yep, a lot of stuff I posted earlier if very representative of everything that is wrong with people who grow up like ninjahood. They have this warped view of manliness under a cover of their own insecurities and inadequacies. In the process they completely lose track of what it TRUELY means to be a man.


MESSAGE@!!!!!!!!


QFT.

Yo ninja, I have a serious question.

In that one thread where they posted a vid of your mom being interviewed, you revealed that your dad was locked up the entirety of your childhood and when he was released from the fed.pen, by the time you were 17, he was deported back to the DR.

Now, you seem to harp on this notion of what is ideally masculine and what is not. The "what is not," you posit as "feminine", and when these "feminine" traits are applied to the males, the end result is a gendered emasculation of sorts.

Now looking at this post, from your other thread about men who wear disapproving attire:


wheres this man's father at?

Gone, and took manhood wit them.


...you imply that a father figure is essential to the development of this gendered masculine identity. Now my question is, and I ask this sincerely with no "shots" intended, where did you learn to be "masculine" if your dad was incarcerated for most of your life, and out of the country? Your mom is obviously an integral part of your life, and was undoubtedly your primary caretaker and provider, would I be wrong in thinking that she taught you how to be "masculine"?

Or did you just learn from the streets, from the "OGs" in W.Heights?

I'd appreciate an honest answer.




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This post needs more attention. I'm definitely waiting for an answer.



Some of you all's ideas of manhood and masculinity are hilarious. Y'all do realize that there's nothing inherently masculine or feminine about tight fitting pants right? That your ascribing labels like "masculine" and "feminine" (social constructions in their own right) to something as arbitrary and meaningless as how tight someone's pants are is simply evidence that you've bought into a certain type of socialization to the point that you're essentially brainwashed and unable to think for yourself. You do know this right?

And all of this "emasculation of men" nonsense is on about the same level as these old rich white guys claiming the country is fighting a "war against Christianity" and that white males are the new, discriminated against "minority"...

This one too.


I can't believe I just read every page of this. dudes are getting their e-shoulders clapped and are too oblivious to see it.

Nobody can stay on topic.

Ninja still a bigot.

Trolls still trollin.

Deplorable logic and reading comprehension.

Grown men still judging/arguing/upset about what other people wear.... Ironically behavior typically exhibited by teenage girls.

I love it here.
 
because dudes like kanye where thinking "I'm gonna pay homage to my old skirt wearing ancestors in africa by wearing this skirt" right? :rolleyes
some of you dudes reach way too hard to try to justify this stuff
here in america, in 2013, wearing a skirt/mantyhose/dress is looked as something feminine, that's why these dudes are looked at as being fruity
 
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Yo Ant, quit wasting keystrokes on this ninja.

He has proven, time and time again, to be blockhead on matters of this nature. It baffles me how someone can be in this society for 30+ years and still be as ignorant, on this specific issue, as he is...
laugh.gif


Leechin' of moms and got the nerve to criticize others for their supposed "lack of manliness". Too much fanta sea...
laugh.gif




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Yep, a lot of stuff I posted earlier if very representative of everything that is wrong with people who grow up like ninjahood. They have this warped view of manliness under a cover of their own insecurities and inadequacies. In the process they completely lose track of what it TRUELY means to be a man.


MESSAGE@!!!!!!!!

QFT.

Yo ninja, I have a serious question.

In that one thread where they posted a vid of your mom being interviewed, you revealed that your dad was locked up the entirety of your childhood and when he was released from the fed.pen, by the time you were 17, he was deported back to the DR.

Now, you seem to harp on this notion of what is ideally masculine and what is not. The "what is not," you posit as "feminine", and when these "feminine" traits are applied to the males, the end result is a gendered emasculation of sorts.

Now looking at this post, from your other thread about men who wear disapproving attire:

wheres this man's father at?
Gone, and took manhood wit them.

...you imply that a father figure is essential to the development of this gendered masculine identity. Now my question is, and I ask this sincerely with no "shots" intended, where did you learn to be "masculine" if your dad was incarcerated for most of your life, and out of the country? Your mom is obviously an integral part of your life, and was undoubtedly your primary caretaker and provider, would I be wrong in thinking that she taught you how to be "masculine"?

Or did you just learn from the streets, from the "OGs" in W.Heights?

I'd appreciate an honest answer.




...

This post needs more attention. I'm definitely waiting for an answer.


Some of you all's ideas of manhood and masculinity are hilarious. Y'all do realize that there's nothing inherently masculine or feminine about tight fitting pants right? That your ascribing labels like "masculine" and "feminine" (social constructions in their own right) to something as arbitrary and meaningless as how tight someone's pants are is simply evidence that you've bought into a certain type of socialization to the point that you're essentially brainwashed and unable to think for yourself. You do know this right?

And all of this "emasculation of men" nonsense is on about the same level as these old rich white guys claiming the country is fighting a "war against Christianity" and that white males are the new, discriminated against "minority"...
This one too.


I can't believe I just read every page of this. dudes are getting their e-shoulders clapped and are too oblivious to see it.

Nobody can stay on topic.

Ninja still a bigot.

Trolls still trollin.

Deplorable logic and reading comprehension.

Grown men still judging/arguing/upset about what other people wear.... Ironically behavior typically exhibited by teenage girls.

I love it here.
aren't you the same dude who says banging a ****** does not make you gay?
 
That was iYen but I somewhat agree with him. SOMEWHAT. it doesn't make you gay but its definitely not typical "straight" behavior. Having sex with men makes you gay. Being attracted to and having sex with transgender people makes you a fan of transgender people. Nothing more.

I also said sex and gender aren't the same thing. hi.
 
That was iYen but I somewhat agree with him. SOMEWHAT. it doesn't make you gay but its definitely not typical "straight" behavior. Having sex with men makes you gay. Being attracted to and having sex with transgender people makes you a fan of transgender people. Nothing more.

I also said sex and gender aren't the same thing. hi.
 
You're so brainwashed bro it's really a shame. These same kinds of arguments were made to justify the enslavement and subsequent complete subordination of Black people in this hemisphere...



AND THAT'S A BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!


The hypocrisy of it all. :D These fools are using the same tactics as theri oppressors, well some people in here think their father was a Conquistador so maybe I don't blame them.
 
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Team Shirts vs. Team Blouses


Team I graduated high school vs. Team short bus


Team my biggest accomplishment in life is wearing clothes vs. Team the clothes don't make you a man.


Team I'd rather be a criminal than "appear" feminine to drug dealers vs. Team I'd rather continbute something of value to society than preoccupy myself with "seeming masculine".
 
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how so it was a simple question you hemmed and hawed shucked and jive and basically pulled teeth just for you to say so and even still you tthrew a clause of i dont really believe....etc, and technically..WOW that really speaks proud..a long drawn out pinned in a corner answer. A question simplistic as what race you are doesnt take several lines etc... it really doesnt even need a full complete sentence...

If i was to ask you do you like white women it wouldnt take the jaws of life, a heavy grilling, and a evasive answer? Hell i got my answer as your sig. (nothing wrong with liking them just used as a examples in terms of assertiveness and forthcoming)

You tried to assume I wasn't accepting of the term I gave you an answer.

Again please make an attempt to use proper grammar and syntax, I'm struggling over here. :lol:



My sig was meant to make people like you angry, and your anguish sustains me. :D I do like white women though, if it pisses people off that's just an added bonus.
 
"Condoning?" You're talking about a man's choice of clothing like it's child molestation...
miss me with that extreme nonsense

Like power ball said, good luck making it to ANY prominent position wearing dresses and skirts...

And not for cultural or historical perspective...ut jusy cuz you want to?

Its OK to debate online. But y'all know damb well gender roles are DEEP in humans.

Y'all just trolling.
 
"Condoning?" You're talking about a man's choice of clothing like it's child molestation...
miss me with that extreme nonsense

Like power ball said, good luck making it to ANY prominent position wearing dresses and skirts...

And not for cultural or historical perspective...ut jusy cuz you want to?

Its OK to debate online. But y'all know damb well gender roles are DEEP in humans.

Y'all just trolling.

dont worry, its da internet, where da weirdos have home court advantage, most of this limp wristed nonsense gets

shut down once its gets exposed to da air of reality.
 
Are you dense? Do you live in the real world where everything isn't bogged down with grammar and lost in abstractions.Nah, you live in a dream world where dresses and pantyhose aren't considered feminine. You sound ridiculous, trying to be pretentious. Our society ascribes the term "feminine" to dresses. That term is a social construct, therefore a dress is inherently feminine. Maybe it wasn't inherently feminine in the 1800s, it isn't inherently feminine in Scotland, but here, it is. You can argue semantics all you want, but a dress is inherently feminine in this culture and you are feminine if you wear one. If you wanna wear a dress or lipstick, that's fine, but don't try to change the definition of femininity so that it doesn't apply to you.What don't you understand? Straight from Wikipedia:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femininity

"Femininity (also called womanliness or womanhood) is a set of attributes, behaviors, and roles generally associated with girls and women. Femininity is made up of both socially defined and biologically created factors.[1][2][3][4] This makes it distinct from the simple definition of the biological female sex,[5][6] as women, men, and transgender people can all exhibit feminine traits.

Behavioral traits generally considered feminine include copying Kanye's style and wearing skirts or pantyhose, gentleness, empathy, and sensitivity,[7][8] though traits associated with femininity often vary depending on location and context, and include a variety of social and cultural factors.[9] The counterpart to femininity is masculinity."
exactly...... and i find it funny most/damn near all the ppl in support of this a fatherless minorities....they will say it is a coincidence....i will say it is by design...

Like i said before if their isnt a difference and this is such a good and positive thing, whay arent the ppl promoting this and the behavior associated with it participating in it?
 
because dudes like kanye where thinking "I'm gonna pay homage to my old skirt wearing ancestors in africa by wearing this skirt" right? :rolleyes
some of you dudes reach way too hard to try to justify this stuff
here in america, in 2013, wearing a skirt/mantyhose/dress is looked as something feminine, that's why these dudes are looked at as being fruity
cats trolling just to troll.

They know damn well if a dude rolled up to tthem skirted out with a blouse and pumps, they'd think he was gay.

Aside from entertainers trying to garner attention, you're not getting ANYWHERE in a dress in America. Even gay dudes I PERSONALLY asked said that ish don't fly.
 
I was under the impression this was about casual fashion cause you know damn well ninja hood isn't getting a job with the way he dresses. Some people rock a nice fitted suit to work and tight pant to play.
 
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I was under the impression this was about casual fashion cause you know damn well ninja hood isn't getting a job with the way he dresses. Some people rock a nice fitted suit to work and tight pant to play.
didn't read all the responses but I see people going at you.

Do you think men should wear dresses and skirts?
 
I was under the impression this was about casual fashion cause you know damn well monkshood isn't getting a job with the way he dresses. Some people rock a nice fitted suit to work and tight pant to play.
if there really isnt a difference then why cant a man wear skirts...blouses, crop tops etc...in a workplace...you guys said it isnt gender bias...and doesnt make/define who you are...? So basically what you saying the ppl who are promoting and making a profit off of the foolishness and saying it doesnt matter and saying it is ok, is fine with it so long as you dont practice it in their presence.

Like i said before it isnt just the clothing, it is the mind state being packaged with this so called afeminine movement agenda. Like many have said yea you get the rock stars etc.... doing it. and some of the kids white kids etc...like and follow the trends, but they dissect it and associated with it on a clothing only bases and even then its just a fashion statement phase and they move on from it...with minorities in particularly blacks they dont...and often times the clothes for lack of better words, make the man.

Example look at mid 80's when the trend of african everything, medallions, fight the power etc...was hot. it was just a phase etc...for whites and just seen as fashion and left at that. for blacks a certain mind state and mentality went along with that style of clothing and it transcended throughout the culture...in music, to ppl kinda having this fight the power, learn about my roots, im black and im proud, we are a proud nation etc...mentality.

Now look at the whole skater/rock look...many whites see it as just mere clothing....but with blacks it transitioned into a whole culture change and mentality....to wanting to skate, change in slang and vernacular...frame of mind so forth and so on.

These corporate ppl and the higher ups know that fashion is the cornerstone of black ppl. that clothing...translate a shift in culture, state of mind, outlook in society, and a way of life.

Beating them upside the head worked for awhile, then threw in crack...and that worked for a hot second...now they using the gay movement/afeminine agenda. And it is working...the single mother rates are as high as they ever been, more cases of aids and other diseases, rise in homosexuality...aka no kids thus no progression movement in race.

Again like i said if this was such a great thing why arent other races participating? From the white corps..who are pushing this garbage down your throats, to the asians who on the clothing shops convincing you its cool and selling you this crap...so on and so forth. All have something to gain and making a profit off of it. But end of the day...besides lol at you fools, they aint going out participating in this foolishness, they oppose it so much that like you said, if you come into they house (aka corp environment) they say leave your miniskirts at the door. And when it is all said and done they gonna walk out the door, in mens clothing, go home with they wife and kids and live their non afeminine, normal functioning lives.

I know you will say something along the lines of so clothing is really the problem...and i say yes... because unlike other races who just see it as mere clothing, blacks in particular see clothing styles/trends and associate a culture and a mind state with it...and follow suite (no pun) as a whole. And with this whole men can wear women clothing...comes with a culture state of mind that acting and conducting myself as a women is cool/acceptable then you throw in growing up around nothing but women.... it all comes around full circle.

You may not see it as such and you may separate the clothes from the man, and it doesnt change or define you. but in the grand scheme and for the majority of the ppl this isnt true.
 
Wearing whatever you think is comfortable and makes you feel happy is fine by me but in the corporate world you are at the mercy of whoever hirers you. A lot of what we wear today started as a trend that was at some point met with resistance. Back in the day women were not allowed to wear pants because of the same reasons sexist homophobes in this thread are giving.
 
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