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I know a lot of cats really started messing with Cam when he got on his computers puting, pink mink flow but as an Uptown 90's _, this is the apex of Cam's career and late 90's NYC Hip-Hop as a whole to me.

The rhyme schemes, production, track concepts, energy and even the artwork and promotion of this album are incredible. This record perfectly encapsulates the era and IDGAF attitude that hungry hood dudes Uptown walked around with.

Jay is in my top 5 but the more I listen to dude's older work, the more I realize that a lot of his albums are overrated just off of his consistency and status.

S.D.E. feels as fresh and energetic as it did in 99 (when it first leaked).

Cam did work on this album and it's not really appreciated like it should e cause he doesn't take himself seriously and just keeps it moving to the next thing.



From the epic opening track...





To the gully closing song.....





This album is a classic.

Pay homage.





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post #2 of 52
i prefer purple haze and come home with me over SDE

but SDE bangs. Let You Know, Double Up, Where I'm From, Losing Weight pimp.gif
post #3 of 52
KILLA>>>>
post #4 of 52
ok these outlandish threads have to stop.

and we just gonna act like the blueprint dont exist now??
post #5 of 52
Confessions of a fire >>>>>>

My opinion of course
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post #7 of 52

The Blueprint was better than the Black Album. 

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Confessions of Fire and Come Home With Me >>>>
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post #9 of 52
S.D.E. is definitely appreciated
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post #11 of 52
Only Cam album I've never heard. Will get to it eventually.
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post #12 of 52

Purple Haze to me is cam's best body of work, and a classic album. S.D.E is a little more raw, but as homie said its deffinatley appreciated. i hold cam to a higher level then jay, of course dipset is what intorduced me to hip hop. But Jay, has so many bangers, American Gangster > Blueprint >S.D.E

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Jay... " You made it a hot ad-lib, I made it a hot song..."

The BIG sample....so cotdam powerful.

Flawless storytelling and Killa give dudes a lesson in How to Rap 101:
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Everybody like..."Cam, yo I thought you in school?"

"Nah, I'm bout to go back..." huh, know that I'm lying.

See me on Broadway, know what I'm buying.

_s getting money? Know what I'm eyeing.

Shiesty again, nowhere without iron.


Like I said, this track and the whole album pretty much sums up the life of many teens/20 somethings in the inner city.




Edited by goldenchild9 - 2/2/13 at 8:24pm
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Only Cam album I've never heard. Will get to it eventually.

You're better than this, peep
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post #16 of 52
S.D.E isn't even a top 3 Cam album to me, but to each his own

laugh.gif at S.D.E being better then Vol. 1, The Dynasty, and The Blueprint.
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jay-z's discography has DEFINITELY aged terribly. i think by da time we're all 50+ history will revise how overrated they are and knock him off his pedestal.

with that said, "i need a freak" is probably da worst cam'ron song ever made, and its on S.D.E. laugh.gifsick.gif

that and Violence should've been deleted, because it isn't Vol. 2 is seeing this album, as well as da blueprint.

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post #18 of 52
Damn man yall some haters or got bad taste in rap music.

I got most of each rapper's albums and SDE is not better than the majority of Jay's albums laugh.gif You can say Jay's albums aged bad or weren't the highest of quality but SDE is not the album you want to pit against them. It's defintiely not better than Vol. 2, 3 or the Dynasty albums.
Edited by xBuddha Blessx - 2/2/13 at 8:04pm
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jay-z's discography has DEFINITELY aged terribly. i think by da time we're all 50+ history will revise how overrated they are and knock him off his pedestal.

with that said, "i need a freak" is probably da worst cam'ron song ever made, and its on S.D.E. laugh.gifsick.gif

that and Violence should've been deleted, because it isn't Vol. 2 is seeing this album, as well as da blueprint.

I mess with both of those songs.

I need a freak is hilarious to me.

" I'm the one that hit it from the back, dookie pie *dookie love*....what's that there?...Your coochie..."Hi" "

" Girls like sex more than guys. Pop the question...they get silly. You got your period?..."Mhmm not really." "What's that mean?" to be polite. " It's the last day and it real light." Yeah right.....you leak leaky. Call me next week I'm not that freaky."

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Violence got that heavy metal, mosh pit feel to it. Gets me hype.

Vol. 2 has a lot of quality songs but its boring to me now. Can only listen to it a couple times a year. Blueprint is probably better though.

SDE is def better than Vol. 1, 3, BP2, AG, KC and BP3 IMO.
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post #20 of 52

Confessions of Fire > SDE

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" Jenny Jones, Rock N' Jock....right back to the block to clock. "




"F A&Rs that want me to dance and pose. I'd rather stand on poles with grams and O's "

Love that line.
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Confessions of Fire > SDE

HELLZ no.

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hows the king of new york rockin sandles wit jeans b

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jay-z's discography has DEFINITELY aged terribly. i think by da time we're all 50+ history will revise how overrated they are and knock him off his pedestal.


Not to make this a NaS vs. Jay thread but after listening to "Life is Good" it made me go back and listen to Jay. I agree 100% with this. To see where NaS is today and hear his lyrics compared to Jay's last few albums is embarrassing. NaS is rapping about grown man stuff and topics I can relate to. People say Jay is rapping about grown man stuff but I can't relate to him talking about being a hundred millionaire and being on yachts and buying expensive pictures. Jay will always have classic songs and is talented but he's dropped significantly in my book because of how unimpressive his albums have been.
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post #25 of 52
In the bar they go shot for shot, matter of fact outside the bar they go shot for shot

**** A&Rs who want me to dance and pose, I rather stand on poles with grams and Os

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Originally Posted by goldenchild9 View Post

Jay... " You made it a hot ad-lib, I made it a hot song..."

The BIG sample....so cotdam powerful.

Flawless storytelling and Killa give dudes a lesson in How to Rap 101:
Quote:


Everybody like..."Cam, yo I thought you in school?"

"Nah, I'm bout to go back..." huh, know that I'm lying.

See me on Broadway, know what I'm buying.

_s getting money? Know what I'm eyeing.

Shiesty again, nowhere without iron.



Like I said, this track and the whole album pretty much sums up the life of many teens/20 somethings in the inner city.



Damn brah I've noticed you and me think a lot and most of the stuff you say on here I agree with almost everytime... nerd.gif

Like you're taking the thoughts from my head.

This exact same song with these exact same lyrics with your statement after couldn't be more true... well coming from a NYC point of view growing up.
Edited by Putting In Work - 2/3/13 at 7:53am
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jay-z's discography has DEFINITELY aged terribly. i think by da time we're all 50+ history will revise how overrated they are and knock him off his pedestal.


Not to make this a NaS vs. Jay thread but after listening to "Life is Good" it made me go back and listen to Jay. I agree 100% with this. To see where NaS is today and hear his lyrics compared to Jay's last few albums is embarrassing. NaS is rapping about grown man stuff and topics I can relate to. People say Jay is rapping about grown man stuff but I can't relate to him talking about being a hundred millionaire and being on yachts and buying expensive pictures. Jay will always have classic songs and is talented but he's dropped significantly in my book because of how unimpressive his albums have been.

Agree with this for the most part. I've always been a fan of them both, but since Stillmatic dropped, I feel like lyrically Nas has trended upward like Jay either went down or flat-lined, with his only bump being American Gangster.
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jay-z's discography has DEFINITELY aged terribly. i think by da time we're all 50+ history will revise how overrated they are and knock him off his pedestal.


Not to make this a NaS vs. Jay thread but after listening to "Life is Good" it made me go back and listen to Jay. I agree 100% with this. To see where NaS is today and hear his lyrics compared to Jay's last few albums is embarrassing. NaS is rapping about grown man stuff and topics I can relate to. People say Jay is rapping about grown man stuff but I can't relate to him talking about being a hundred millionaire and being on yachts and buying expensive pictures. Jay will always have classic songs and is talented but he's dropped significantly in my book because of how unimpressive his albums have been.

 

Guess we should all be pseudo intellectuals and rap about the black mans plight while not doing anything about it then. I rather listen to the guy who is being true to himself in his raps, than a huge fraud.

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jay-z's discography has DEFINITELY aged terribly. i think by da time we're all 50+ history will revise how overrated they are and knock him off his pedestal.



Not to make this a NaS vs. Jay thread but after listening to "Life is Good" it made me go back and listen to Jay. I agree 100% with this. To see where NaS is today and hear his lyrics compared to Jay's last few albums is embarrassing. NaS is rapping about grown man stuff and topics I can relate to. People say Jay is rapping about grown man stuff but I can't relate to him talking about being a hundred millionaire and being on yachts and buying expensive pictures. Jay will always have classic songs and is talented but he's dropped significantly in my book because of how unimpressive his albums have been.



Guess we should all be pseudo intellectuals and rap about the black mans plight while not doing anything about it then. I rather listen to the guy who is being true to himself in his raps, than a huge fraud.

Rap music USED to be as intellectually fulfilling as reading a good book, jay-Z was a middle of da pack

Lyricist in this regard & now he's just phones it in, Nas has just gotten better after his nastradamous hiccup.

Only reason he ever got a angle on Nas back in da day was because jay-z dropped every year and Nas took every 2 years to drop.

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jay-z's discography has DEFINITELY aged terribly. i think by da time we're all 50+ history will revise how overrated they are and knock him off his pedestal.


Not to make this a NaS vs. Jay thread but after listening to "Life is Good" it made me go back and listen to Jay. I agree 100% with this. To see where NaS is today and hear his lyrics compared to Jay's last few albums is embarrassing. NaS is rapping about grown man stuff and topics I can relate to. People say Jay is rapping about grown man stuff but I can't relate to him talking about being a hundred millionaire and being on yachts and buying expensive pictures. Jay will always have classic songs and is talented but he's dropped significantly in my book because of how unimpressive his albums have been.
Jay had some grown man tracks on WTT & other tracks on there where he wasnt talking about money
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