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The "empowerment" of women
was social engineering not social
change. It was designed to make
them seek career instead of family.
They were told they could "have it
all" but for most, that was a lie.

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Feminism has been convincing women they "don't need men" since the 1960's. Now women have one problem. They can't find husbands.

Successful women often make men feel demoralized and inadequate.

According to a recent article by Margaret Wente, What if Women Don't Need Guys Any More:

"Magdalena Hinojosa, (above) a striking-looking single woman, is a senior associate vice-president at the University of Texas. She's learned that her job makes men uneasy. So when they ask her what she does, she simply tells them she works ... in the admissions office.

"You have to hide who you are, at the beginning, until that person is comfortable with you," she says.

In the past fifty years, feminism has swept through society like an Oklahoma tornado leaving a trail of wreckage:

1. "Women in America now earn almost half the family income, and more than half in lower-income families. Forty per cent of wives now out earn their husbands. And the gender gap is closing fast. The median income of young, unmarried urban women in their 20s is now higher than the men's."

2. "More than half of births to American women under 30 now occur outside marriage. One mother, Amber Strader, 27, said she was in an on-and-off relationship when she got pregnant. Marrying her boyfriend, a clerk at Sears, never entered her mind. "It was like living with another kid."

3. Men have been deprived of their identity. "What happens when they aren't needed as providers any more? What happens when their sense of purpose is lost? The answer is, they become unmoored."

4. The US birthrate is down from 23 births per 1000 in 1960 to 13.8 in 2011, the lowest point in history! In 1960, 72% of all American adults were married; in 2010 just 51% were. The number dropped sharply by 5% in the most recent year, 2009-10.

We don't need to debate that a stable loving marriage between a man and a woman is the best foundation for raising children, and for giving people identity, purpose and love.

With statistics like those cited above, you'd think the government and media would be sounding the alarm.

What do we hear instead? The news is full of homosexual marriage. Gays don't have children. Those who want to marry represent roughly one person in every thousand. Schools and media actively promote homosexuality which is a debilitating developmental disorder. "Gay Rights" is a mask for a vile attack on heterosexuals.

Obviously something is fundamentally wrong. Our society has been subverted by a satanic cult, the Illuminati ( i.e. Freemasonry.) Our government, corporations and media are owned or controlled by the Illuminati central banking cartel.

Everybody who achieves public success -- educators, politicians, journalists, feminists in general -- is either a dupe or a traitor. They have sold their soul to this devil-worshiping cult unwittingly or not.

The "empowerment" of women was social engineering not social change. It was designed to make them seek career instead of family. They were told they could "have it all" but for most, that was a lie.

Anyone can do a job. Only a woman can be a mother. Naturally she needs her husband's support. Feminism has deprived millions of women of a socially honored lifetime role.

The institutions of marriage and family are being undermined in order to destabilize society, making it vulnerable to the Illuminati Communist NWO. The destruction of marriage and family has been a plank in the Communist Manifesto since 1848.

Luckily, men aren't buying the nonsense in articles like "What if Women Don't Need Guys Any More."

Here is a sample from the 665 comments it drew:


How come with this take on the situation, that according to Statistics Canada, 96 % of ex spousal support is paid by men? If there was justice shouldn't this situation be corrected?

What nobody needs is you Margaret. This piece already
ran in the Atlantic a few months back.

Pretty much all of the education system is now geared to the female mind and personality. The result, predictably, is that boys are dropping out of school at alarming rates and graduating less. I still remember the day my son (then in grade 3) was sent home with a "yellow card" because he jostled with a friend in line. It never occurred to the teacher that jostling is what boys do. It's how they express friendship. When he "graduated" from grade 8, all but two of the 20 or so awards went to girls. Can you imagine the outrage if the ratio had been reversed?

Maybe its time we start giving men preferential treatment in jobs?

I have a bit more education than my wife, but she makes a bit more money. She has a politically correct government job that wouldn't be given to a white male, while I have my own business and create work for other people. Go figure.

Many of the ideals of feminism come from lesbian based thinking. It is very real that lesbians within the feminist movement has steered many women, unbeknownst to themselves, to forgo and disdain the lives of their mothers. ... It's the gay feminist secrecy that I find galling. I thought we were supposed to have come out of the closet by now. Or are they afraid that such knowledge would undermine their credibly. BTW, I am gay too so don't call me "phobic".

Margaret Wente has misinterpreted social trends. Men don't need wives any-more. There was a time when men were expected to marry and provide for the family. This was always a large burden carried on the backs of men. Women's success in the workforce has freed men. Since providing for the children is no longer a man's job, men can now dedicate more time to leisure and are not slaves to jobs or careers.

As an architect I can say here - in anonymity - that most of the women architects I have worked with are indeed better at the talking and sitting part. They love to vocalize and pick colors and finishes, but the hard work of focusing for a long period to flesh something out and design it in detail is not their forte. They get down right antsy when they have to do any of the detailed work, they call in sick and act out in a passive aggressive way.

And the female engineers are the same. They love to talk and talk, but don't ask them anything too specific - they will not have the answers.
Women are best in roles where they can talk and talk and talk. Journalism (like Margaret, whose job is to talk about whatever pops into her head), government, sales, marketing, "personnel" (whatever that means).
Although I have had the pleasure of working with a few very competent women, when it comes to solving problems and meeting deadlines, generally speaking, give me other men to work with - any day.

Men have not ever needed women. They have always been independent. But do you ever hear them saying this? Of course not. Because they have the decency to subsume their personal interest in the aim of having a family. Feminists who want to stay alone can stay single. And good riddance.

Women don't need men, until it's time to pay the bill.

I like having a girl friend. Don't ever want to live with a woman though. Most don't know how to cook, keep a clean place, and manage finances, or they are just plain lazy. And, biggest point of all, what a drag it A would be getting sucked into continual contact with her family. A living nightmare as women have constant contact visiting with her relatives too much for me to be around it all the time. I am not interested in them, I just like having a girl friend, not the whole team. So, deal breakers: I don't want to have to raise a woman, wait on her hand and foot, merge finances with a financial over spender, have kids in an overpopulated crazy world, too expensive to have kids world, and be absorbed by her family, losing my autonomy.
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says alot about the quality of us men nowadays when we find it hard to keep up with a successful woman.
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btw stopped reading at "illuminati" eyes.gif
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Meh
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Damn shame..
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says alot about the quality of us men nowadays when we find it hard to keep up with a successful woman.

mean.gif men bashing from tip off....

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btw stopped reading at "illuminati" eyes.gif

Sometimes its better to ignore things and focus on the big picture of the article and discussion....but I know you can't help it.

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btw stopped reading at "illuminati" eyes.gif
Interested in hearing your thoughts on the idea that the feminist movement was used to break up the famility which in turn can be used as a population control device. I wouldn't focus on that word too much man.

Don't dismiss the whole article because of that. You are smarter than that.
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btw stopped reading at "illuminati" eyes.gif
Interested in hearing your thoughts on the idea that the feminist movement was used to break up the famility which in turn can be used as a population control device. I wouldn't focus on that word too much man.

Don't dismiss the whole article because of that. You are smarter than that.

I read the entire article and didn't find one even slightly intelligent, coherent argument being made.

What are you thoughts on the article DC?
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i find nothing wrong with empowering women, giving them the right to climb just as high as men as long as they work just as hard as we do, the fact that Jeremy got stuck as a clerk @ Home Depot and now feels intimidated by Sarah who is the district manager is not her fault, or are we really gonna be here as MEN and cry about women rising to power??...is this a manly trait?
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Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.

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last I checked sperm still comes from a man, so if these women want children then they'll need men in some way or form.
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last I checked sperm still comes from a man, so if these women want children then they'll need men in some way or form.

The thing is in some cases thats what we are being reduced to...sperm donors.  mean.gif  Its one thing for a chick to get knocked by a dude she later regrets or breaks up with.  But to have a baby KNOWING you don't wanna be with that man is becoming too common

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Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.

What do YOU think is the solution?
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Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.

Amen.
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I mean do ya really blame women?....I think both sides need to be held accountable, we gonna act as if we are perfect?...how common is it for a man to pop a seed in a woman and easily walk out of that child's life?...forcing that woman to solely take on the responsibility and suffer the consequences while the dad goes on with his life?...I don't believe the feminist way of thinking is what's in fact ruining the family structure.
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Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.

If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
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Not blaming women but feminist. All feminist aren't women.....you should know that laugh.gif

At the end of the day, WOMEN are the ones taking advantage of these opportunities given by feminists, no?

I just want to get this straight...are we really mad that in today's society women are just as successful or more than men?...does that not reflect what we men as a collective are doing wrong?....or is this success being handed to women?...
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So who broke this chicks heart? Lol. But really, the same article can be written about men not needing women. I honestly feel that all an uptight women needs is a brutal nailing to shut that mouth......... Kinda serious.... But again, same could be said about a man
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this says it all boys,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM still cracks me up

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I dig the gist of the article, and I have noticed this. Yes, the family structure has been attacked for years. Has nothing to do with holding women back or saying they only belong in the kitchen. It simply picks at the foundation of a family.
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this says it all boys,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0xoKiH8JJM still cracks me up

Yo go make a separate thread for that guy.  Amazing ! eek.gif pimp.gif roll.gif

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So the basis for a strong family unit is the aged idea of a man going to work, while the woman throws on the apron and cleans the house?...isn't better if both can provide?...both work, two incomes, less financial stress, more vacations?
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Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.

If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...

and why should men adapt when they still are expected to "provide"? 

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I mean do ya really blame women?....I think both sides need to be held accountable, we gonna act as if we are perfect?...how common is it for a man to pop a seed in a woman and easily walk out of that child's life?...forcing that woman to solely take on the responsibility and suffer the consequences while the dad goes on with his life?...I don't believe the feminist way of thinking is what's in fact ruining the family structure.

I think the man deserves 0 responsibility for that child.

I also think it's sad that people don't raise their children, and I would never have a baby until I was ready.


A woman is the one who gets pregnant, she knows its the result of sex, it's HER body (that's what they say right) its HER right. She can choose to have a baby or not have a baby and the man just has to roll around and become a father or lose his future kid. I think that is complete ********. If you're gonna give them the power, give them all of it.

Feminist way of thinking definitely has a lot of faults. Women don't even want to breast feed their own kids, and they're above supporting their man and a few household chores. eyes.gif They're not so much pro women as they are anti-man and it gets tiresome. I joked one day and asked a chick if she was taking me out for drinks. COMPLETE JOKE. And she flipped and got extra insulted. As a man you're taught to compete so yeah I might feel slighted if my chick was doing better than me but that's something I gotta live with. I'd rather her doing better than me than doing nothing at all
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says alot about the quality of us men nowadays when we find it hard to keep up with a successful woman.

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I mean do ya really blame women?....I think both sides need to be held accountable, we gonna act as if we are perfect?...how common is it for a man to pop a seed in a woman and easily walk out of that child's life?...forcing that woman to solely take on the responsibility and suffer the consequences while the dad goes on with his life?...I don't believe the feminist way of thinking is what's in fact ruining the family structure.

I think the man deserves 0 responsibility for that child.

I also think it's sad that people don't raise their children, and I would never have a baby until I was ready.


A woman is the one who gets pregnant, she knows its the result of sex, it's HER body (that's what they say right) its HER right. She can choose to have a baby or not have a baby and the man just has to roll around and become a father or lose his future kid. I think that is complete ********. If you're gonna give them the power, give them all of it.

Feminist way of thinking definitely has a lot of faults. Women don't even want to breast feed their own kids, and they're above supporting their man and a few household chores. eyes.gifThey're not so much pro women as they are anti-man and it gets tiresome. I joked one day and asked a chick if she was taking me out for drinks. COMPLETE JOKE. And she flipped and got extra insulted. As a man you're taught to compete so yeah I might feel slighted if my chick was doing better than me but that's something I gotta live with. I'd rather her doing better than me than doing nothing at all

Great point.

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America was milk and honey when the women stayed home, and focused on raising kids correctly. Nowadays kids are just mad wild, not all cuz there's always exceptions. Dnt get me wrong, I'm all for women's right, and them having the ability to do whatever men do, but it seems like the world would be better. Properly raised kids, more employment for men, etc.

Those days are gone tho. So it is what it is.
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Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.


If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
and why should men adapt when they still are expected to "provide"? 

Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.

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America was milk and honey when the women stayed home, and focused on raising kids correctly. Nowadays kids are just mad wild, not all cuz there's always exceptions. Dnt get me wrong, I'm all for women's right, and them having the ability to do whatever men do, but it seems like the world would be better. Properly raised kids, more employment for men, etc.

Those days are gone tho. So it is what it is.

I know, right, bro...

The good old days when women had absolutely no rights and were treated as subhuman along with people of color and poor whites...
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