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Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
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and why should men adapt when they still are expected to "provide"? Originally Posted by red mpls
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
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Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
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I think the man deserves 0 responsibility for that child.
I also think it's sad that people don't raise their children, and I would never have a baby until I was ready.
A woman is the one who gets pregnant, she knows its the result of sex, it's HER body (that's what they say right) its HER right. She can choose to have a baby or not have a baby and the man just has to roll around and become a father or lose his future kid. I think that is complete ********. If you're gonna give them the power, give them all of it.
Feminist way of thinking definitely has a lot of faults. Women don't even want to breast feed their own kids, and they're above supporting their man and a few household chores.
They're not so much pro women as they are anti-man and it gets tiresome. I joked one day and asked a chick if she was taking me out for drinks. COMPLETE JOKE. And she flipped and got extra insulted. As a man you're taught to compete so yeah I might feel slighted if my chick was doing better than me but that's something I gotta live with. I'd rather her doing better than me than doing nothing at all
I think the man deserves 0 responsibility for that child.
I also think it's sad that people don't raise their children, and I would never have a baby until I was ready.
A woman is the one who gets pregnant, she knows its the result of sex, it's HER body (that's what they say right) its HER right. She can choose to have a baby or not have a baby and the man just has to roll around and become a father or lose his future kid. I think that is complete ********. If you're gonna give them the power, give them all of it.
Feminist way of thinking definitely has a lot of faults. Women don't even want to breast feed their own kids, and they're above supporting their man and a few household chores.
They're not so much pro women as they are anti-man and it gets tiresome. I joked one day and asked a chick if she was taking me out for drinks. COMPLETE JOKE. And she flipped and got extra insulted. As a man you're taught to compete so yeah I might feel slighted if my chick was doing better than me but that's something I gotta live with. I'd rather her doing better than me than doing nothing at all
see man, that right there is the reason why family structure has gone down the drain, if we were just a little more selective, a bit more reserved about sex instead of treating it as a competition to see which male conquered more P in their lifetime, there wouldnt be as many accidental pregnancies, you sleep with a woman knowing the consequences man...
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see man, that right there is the reason why family structure has gone down the drain, if we were just a little more selective, a bit more reserved about sex instead of treating it as a competition to see which male conquered more P in their lifetime, there wouldnt be as many accidental pregnancies, you sleep with a woman knowing the consequences man...
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I think the man deserves 0 responsibility for that child.
I also think it's sad that people don't raise their children, and I would never have a baby until I was ready.
A woman is the one who gets pregnant, she knows its the result of sex, it's HER body (that's what they say right) its HER right. She can choose to have a baby or not have a baby and the man just has to roll around and become a father or lose his future kid. I think that is complete ********. If you're gonna give them the power, give them all of it.
Feminist way of thinking definitely has a lot of faults. Women don't even want to breast feed their own kids, and they're above supporting their man and a few household chores. They're not so much pro women as they are anti-man and it gets tiresome. I joked one day and asked a chick if she was taking me out for drinks. COMPLETE JOKE. And she flipped and got extra insulted. As a man you're taught to compete so yeah I might feel slighted if my chick was doing better than me but that's something I gotta live with. I'd rather her doing better than me than doing nothing at all
I think the man deserves 0 responsibility for that child.
I also think it's sad that people don't raise their children, and I would never have a baby until I was ready.
A woman is the one who gets pregnant, she knows its the result of sex, it's HER body (that's what they say right) its HER right. She can choose to have a baby or not have a baby and the man just has to roll around and become a father or lose his future kid. I think that is complete ********. If you're gonna give them the power, give them all of it.
Feminist way of thinking definitely has a lot of faults. Women don't even want to breast feed their own kids, and they're above supporting their man and a few household chores.
They're not so much pro women as they are anti-man and it gets tiresome. I joked one day and asked a chick if she was taking me out for drinks. COMPLETE JOKE. And she flipped and got extra insulted. As a man you're taught to compete so yeah I might feel slighted if my chick was doing better than me but that's something I gotta live with. I'd rather her doing better than me than doing nothing at allsee man, that right there is the reason why family structure has gone down the drain, if we were just a little more selective, a bit more reserved about sex instead of treating it as a competition to see which male conquered more P in their lifetime, there wouldnt be as many accidental pregnancies, you sleep with a woman knowing the consequences man...
are men raping these women? Or are they letting men they barely know inside them? Wow women can really do no wrong in your world.
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see man, that right there is the reason why family structure has gone down the drain, if we were just a little more selective, a bit more reserved about sex instead of treating it as a competition to see which male conquered more P in their lifetime, there wouldnt be as many accidental pregnancies, you sleep with a woman knowing the consequences man...
see man, that right there is the reason why family structure has gone down the drain, if we were just a little more selective, a bit more reserved about sex instead of treating it as a competition to see which male conquered more P in their lifetime, there wouldnt be as many accidental pregnancies, you sleep with a woman knowing the consequences man...
yeah and you conveniently skip the very next line or my reasoning behind it.
you got it champ. women hold no responsibility. it's not their body that gets pregnant and becomes directly influenced by allowing semen up there. are you ******g kidding me. there are plenty of smart women out there. if I was a chick I got too much **** going for me in my career, and in my life to be worried about having a ******g baby. So birth control and everything else would be at the top of MY priorities. because it would be MY body and MY life.
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Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
that CEO is a fool, we men tend to look at beauty over all, as long as sarah has all the physical attributes to keep the CEO satisfied, she doesnt need anything else, women dont think like that and in that sense are smarter than us, we've allowed vagina to rule us, if we took the time to be more picky and actually demand more than just a pretty face, im sure youll find yourself an equal counter-part.
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are men raping these women? Or are they letting men they barely know inside them? Wow women can really do no wrong in your world.
are men raping these women? Or are they letting men they barely know inside them? Wow women can really do no wrong in your world.both are wrong, both should be responsible, how is one side more guilty than the other?...btw 9/10 times is us men seeking out these women.
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that CEO is a fool, we men tend to look at beauty over all, as long as sarah has all the physical attributes to keep the CEO satisfied, she doesnt need anything else, women dont think like that and in that sense are smarter than us, we've allowed vagina to rule us, if we took the time to be more picky and actually demand more than just a pretty face, im sure youll find yourself an equal counter-part.
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Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
that CEO is a fool, we men tend to look at beauty over all, as long as sarah has all the physical attributes to keep the CEO satisfied, she doesnt need anything else, women dont think like that and in that sense are smarter than us, we've allowed vagina to rule us, if we took the time to be more picky and actually demand more than just a pretty face, im sure youll find yourself an equal counter-part.
Please stop man.
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This means that the women who are actually seeking out "good men" and don't want to adhere to this independent "don't need no man" lifestyle will be more willing to put out in the hopes of snagging one for the long haul..
I see nothing wrong with this article. If you're a single, employed dude with your own means of transportation/own place then the world is essentially yours. The portion of "good/stable/employed" men is apparently shrinking and in this day and age one must take full advantage
I see nothing wrong with this article. If you're a single, employed dude with your own means of transportation/own place then the world is essentially yours. The portion of "good/stable/employed" men is apparently shrinking and in this day and age one must take full advantage
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you know...I can't say it's a good or bad thing because at this point I can't see the big picture/down the road but I feel by just bringing up this topic we as men have def become more "feminine" like in our natures compared to men from yesteryears.
It's like we're now gossiping about women through these posts just like how they would gossip about us back then through magazines and salon talk.
We as guys/men are who we are but I've felt overall we've lost some of that manly edge and I really don't know how we get that back or if it's the right thing to get that back because our ego's tell us so and we might revert back to just beating our women over the head and dragging them back to the cave.
I mean we did give women an inch and now their def taking a yard but I hope this **** evens out one day.
I think us as men gotta stop talking about these women that aren't fit or actually feel their too fit and just handle our business. We gotta stop giving extra credit to these same women that we put on a pedestal in one way or another especially the models or the one's that satisfy whatever female fetishes we have for them. In the end you gotta know what you want and just go out there and get it....as a man. Some of us are gonna win and some of us are gonna lose if we play this thing like a game.
You gotta have fun with life but it's the masters that know how to balance the fun with the business side of life.
It's like we're now gossiping about women through these posts just like how they would gossip about us back then through magazines and salon talk.
We as guys/men are who we are but I've felt overall we've lost some of that manly edge and I really don't know how we get that back or if it's the right thing to get that back because our ego's tell us so and we might revert back to just beating our women over the head and dragging them back to the cave.
I mean we did give women an inch and now their def taking a yard but I hope this **** evens out one day.
I think us as men gotta stop talking about these women that aren't fit or actually feel their too fit and just handle our business. We gotta stop giving extra credit to these same women that we put on a pedestal in one way or another especially the models or the one's that satisfy whatever female fetishes we have for them. In the end you gotta know what you want and just go out there and get it....as a man. Some of us are gonna win and some of us are gonna lose if we play this thing like a game.
You gotta have fun with life but it's the masters that know how to balance the fun with the business side of life.
I think I've figured out why time slows down when your high. It's simply because when your high, you are truly in the moment. You can truly "see" it for the first time. Think about it.
I think I've figured out why time slows down when your high. It's simply because when your high, you are truly in the moment. You can truly "see" it for the first time. Think about it.
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You're missing the whole point man. There's nothing wrong with dating a person with "less" to offer. The problem is women want it all while men undestand we can't have it all.
Man with money - dates women above and his equal but also dates down
Woman with money- usually dates up and barely dates on her level
Do you see the lack of balance? There's nothing wrong with women being successful but when you reach success don't act like people are beneath you. The reason they act like that is because they are told men are to be providers. You don't see rich older women with younger men because they have the need to STILL be taken care of. Thats just how it is.
The need to be taken care of will linger no matter how much feminist talk they throw out. Thats why career driven women are more lonely than other women. You can't shrink your dating pool and and tell men how much you don't need them and accept life to go smoothly.
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you know...I can't say it's a good or bad thing because at this point I can't see the big picture/down the road but I feel by just bringing up this topic we as men have def become more "feminine" like in our natures compared to men from yesteryears.
It's like we're now gossiping about women through these posts just like how they would gossip about us back then through magazines and salon talk.
We as guys/men are who we are but I've felt overall we've lost some of that manly edge and I really don't know how we get that back or if it's the right thing to get that back because our ego's tell us so and we might revert back to just beating our women over the head and dragging them back to the cave.
I mean we did give women an inch and now their def taking a yard but I hope this **** evens out one day.
I think us as men gotta stop talking about these women that aren't fit or actually feel their too fit and just handle our business. We gotta stop giving extra credit to these same women that we put on a pedestal in one way or another especially the models or the one's that satisfy whatever female fetishes we have for them. In the end you gotta know what you want and just go out there and get it....as a man. Some of us are gonna win and some of us are gonna lose if we play this thing like a game.
You gotta have fun with life but it's the masters that know how to balance the fun with the business side of life.
you know...I can't say it's a good or bad thing because at this point I can't see the big picture/down the road but I feel by just bringing up this topic we as men have def become more "feminine" like in our natures compared to men from yesteryears.
It's like we're now gossiping about women through these posts just like how they would gossip about us back then through magazines and salon talk.
We as guys/men are who we are but I've felt overall we've lost some of that manly edge and I really don't know how we get that back or if it's the right thing to get that back because our ego's tell us so and we might revert back to just beating our women over the head and dragging them back to the cave.
I mean we did give women an inch and now their def taking a yard but I hope this **** evens out one day.
I think us as men gotta stop talking about these women that aren't fit or actually feel their too fit and just handle our business. We gotta stop giving extra credit to these same women that we put on a pedestal in one way or another especially the models or the one's that satisfy whatever female fetishes we have for them. In the end you gotta know what you want and just go out there and get it....as a man. Some of us are gonna win and some of us are gonna lose if we play this thing like a game.
You gotta have fun with life but it's the masters that know how to balance the fun with the business side of life.
strong post.
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Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
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Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
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Originally Posted by PowerBallin
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and why should men adapt when they still are expected to "provide"? Originally Posted by red mpls
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
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Originally Posted by PowerBallin
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
Bro. YOU want to stay in the mode of men as "provider and protector," not the rest of society. Stop projecting your perspective and then saying it's unfair. Women are going to see the front lines of military combat...
I agree that men and women need each other just as human beings we all need one another. But it's quite easy to see how successful women wouldn't want to deal with an insecure, jealous, and patriarchal man. If they end up saying "**** it" and stop trying, who are you to demonize them?
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Bro. YOU want to stay in the mode of men as "provider and protector," not the rest of society. Stop projecting your perspective and then saying it's unfair. Women are going to see the front lines of military combat...
I agree that men and women need each other just as human beings we all need one another. But it's quite easy to see how successful women wouldn't want to deal with an insecure, jealous, and patriarchal man. If they end up saying "**** it" and stop trying, who are you to demonize them?
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Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
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Originally Posted by red mpls
Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
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Originally Posted by PowerBallin
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and why should men adapt when they still are expected to "provide"? Originally Posted by red mpls
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
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Originally Posted by PowerBallin
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
Bro. YOU want to stay in the mode of men as "provider and protector," not the rest of society. Stop projecting your perspective and then saying it's unfair. Women are going to see the front lines of military combat...
I agree that men and women need each other just as human beings we all need one another. But it's quite easy to see how successful women wouldn't want to deal with an insecure, jealous, and patriarchal man. If they end up saying "**** it" and stop trying, who are you to demonize them?
If you think I'm in the minority when it comes to men being the provider/protector then you need to get out more. Step out your bubble homie.
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I know, right, bro...
The good old days when women had absolutely no rights and were treated as subhuman along with people of color and poor whites...
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America was milk and honey when the women stayed home, and focused on raising kids correctly. Nowadays kids are just mad wild, not all cuz there's always exceptions. Dnt get me wrong, I'm all for women's right, and them having the ability to do whatever men do, but it seems like the world would be better. Properly raised kids, more employment for men, etc.
Those days are gone tho. So it is what it is.
America was milk and honey when the women stayed home, and focused on raising kids correctly. Nowadays kids are just mad wild, not all cuz there's always exceptions. Dnt get me wrong, I'm all for women's right, and them having the ability to do whatever men do, but it seems like the world would be better. Properly raised kids, more employment for men, etc.
Those days are gone tho. So it is what it is.
I know, right, bro...
The good old days when women had absolutely no rights and were treated as subhuman along with people of color and poor whites...
Exactly.
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You're missing the whole point man. There's nothing wrong with dating a person with "less" to offer. The problem is women want it all while men undestand we can't have it all.
Man with money - dates women above and his equal but also dates down
Woman with money- usually dates up and barely dates on her level
Do you see the lack of balance? There's nothing wrong with women being successful but when you reach success don't act like people are beneath you. The reason they act like that is because they are told men are to be providers. You don't see rich older women with younger men because they have the need to STILL be taken care of. Thats just how it is.
The need to be taken care of will linger no matter how much feminist talk they throw out. Thats why career driven women are more lonely than other women. You can't shrink your dating pool and and tell men how much you don't need them and accept life to go smoothly.
You're missing the whole point man. There's nothing wrong with dating a person with "less" to offer. The problem is women want it all while men undestand we can't have it all.
Man with money - dates women above and his equal but also dates down
Woman with money- usually dates up and barely dates on her level
Do you see the lack of balance? There's nothing wrong with women being successful but when you reach success don't act like people are beneath you. The reason they act like that is because they are told men are to be providers. You don't see rich older women with younger men because they have the need to STILL be taken care of. Thats just how it is.
The need to be taken care of will linger no matter how much feminist talk they throw out. Thats why career driven women are more lonely than other women. You can't shrink your dating pool and and tell men how much you don't need them and accept life to go smoothly.
on a serious note...
like Grimlock said, as a man worry about yourself, your success....set those standards high, the same way women have their standards and youll be fine.
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I don't know what reality some of y'all live in sometimes
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I mean we did give women an inch and now their def taking a yard but I hope this **** evens out one day.
I mean we did give women an inch and now their def taking a yard but I hope this **** evens out one day.
I don't know what reality some of y'all live in sometimes
Explain.
I think I've figured out why time slows down when your high. It's simply because when your high, you are truly in the moment. You can truly "see" it for the first time. Think about it.
I think I've figured out why time slows down when your high. It's simply because when your high, you are truly in the moment. You can truly "see" it for the first time. Think about it.
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true story...Originally Posted by PowerBallin
You're missing the whole point man. There's nothing wrong with dating a person with "less" to offer. The problem is women want it all while men undestand we can't have it all.
Man with money - dates women above and his equal but also dates down
Woman with money- usually dates up and barely dates on her level
Do you see the lack of balance? There's nothing wrong with women being successful but when you reach success don't act like people are beneath you. The reason they act like that is because they are told men are to be providers. You don't see rich older women with younger men because they have the need to STILL be taken care of. Thats just how it is.
The need to be taken care of will linger no matter how much feminist talk they throw out. Thats why career driven women are more lonely than other women. You can't shrink your dating pool and and tell men how much you don't need them and accept life to go smoothly.
You're missing the whole point man. There's nothing wrong with dating a person with "less" to offer. The problem is women want it all while men undestand we can't have it all.
Man with money - dates women above and his equal but also dates down
Woman with money- usually dates up and barely dates on her level
Do you see the lack of balance? There's nothing wrong with women being successful but when you reach success don't act like people are beneath you. The reason they act like that is because they are told men are to be providers. You don't see rich older women with younger men because they have the need to STILL be taken care of. Thats just how it is.
The need to be taken care of will linger no matter how much feminist talk they throw out. Thats why career driven women are more lonely than other women. You can't shrink your dating pool and and tell men how much you don't need them and accept life to go smoothly.
these bishes be fronting fambs...
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Men have been deprived of their identity. "What happens when they aren't needed as providers any more? What happens when their sense of purpose is lost? The answer is, they become unmoored."
Boo-hoo, those poor men without an identity. But it's perfectly ok for a woman's identity to be only as a mother? Why can't the man have his identity be just as a father?
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Schools and media actively promote homosexuality which is a debilitating developmental disorder.
What? Seriously?
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"Gay Rights" is a mask for a vile attack on heterosexuals.
Heterosexuals are not being attacked, please... It's the same as when Fox News complains about Christians being "attacked" around Christmas. It's hard to be attacked when you're the dominant group and your rights aren't being infringed by others gaining theirs. Homosexuals being allowed to marry doesn't mean heterosexuals will be banned.
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Anyone can do a job. Only a woman can be a mother. Naturally she needs her husband's support. Feminism has deprived millions of women of a socially honored lifetime role.
The fundamental flaw of the article (besides the illumanti portions) is that you can't be a successful, working women and be a mother at the same time. That being a feminist prohibits you from being a mother as well, and that's a very weak argument. Believing women should have equal pay, rights, etc. doesn't mean you can't be a loving mother in a functional family unit.
A healthy discussion about the role of feminism could be beneficial, but too often it's corrupted by insecure and misogynistic men who long for the days where women never had jobs or lives outside the house.
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If you think I'm in the minority when it comes to men being the provider/protector then you need to get out more. Step out your bubble homie.
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Bro. YOU want to stay in the mode of men as "provider and protector," not the rest of society. Stop projecting your perspective and then saying it's unfair. Women are going to see the front lines of military combat...
I agree that men and women need each other just as human beings we all need one another. But it's quite easy to see how successful women wouldn't want to deal with an insecure, jealous, and patriarchal man. If they end up saying "**** it" and stop trying, who are you to demonize them?
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Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
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Originally Posted by red mpls
Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
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and why should men adapt when they still are expected to "provide"? Originally Posted by red mpls
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
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Originally Posted by PowerBallin
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
Bro. YOU want to stay in the mode of men as "provider and protector," not the rest of society. Stop projecting your perspective and then saying it's unfair. Women are going to see the front lines of military combat...
I agree that men and women need each other just as human beings we all need one another. But it's quite easy to see how successful women wouldn't want to deal with an insecure, jealous, and patriarchal man. If they end up saying "**** it" and stop trying, who are you to demonize them?
If you think I'm in the minority when it comes to men being the provider/protector then you need to get out more. Step out your bubble homie.
Bro, society is going one way. You and others want it to stay the other way. Your resistance to the slow process of gender equality is exacerbating, if not creating, the very issues that you're complaining about but your ideology is blinding you to that reality...
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Explain.
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I don't know what reality some of y'all live in sometimes
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I mean we did give women an inch and now their def taking a yard but I hope this **** evens out one day.
I mean we did give women an inch and now their def taking a yard but I hope this **** evens out one day.
I don't know what reality some of y'all live in sometimes
Explain.
Who "gave" women anything? You act like they somehow have the upper hand in society now. "I hope this **** evens out one day?" Talking about men "regaining" the ground they "lost" to women?
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Bro, society is going one way. You and others want it to stay the other way. Your resistance to the slow process of gender equality is exacerbating, if not creating, the very issues that you're complaining about but your ideology is blinding you to that reality...
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Originally Posted by PowerBallin
If you think I'm in the minority when it comes to men being the provider/protector then you need to get out more. Step out your bubble homie.
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Originally Posted by red mpls
Bro. YOU want to stay in the mode of men as "provider and protector," not the rest of society. Stop projecting your perspective and then saying it's unfair. Women are going to see the front lines of military combat...
I agree that men and women need each other just as human beings we all need one another. But it's quite easy to see how successful women wouldn't want to deal with an insecure, jealous, and patriarchal man. If they end up saying "**** it" and stop trying, who are you to demonize them?
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Originally Posted by PowerBallin
Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
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Originally Posted by red mpls
Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
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Originally Posted by PowerBallin
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and why should men adapt when they still are expected to "provide"? Originally Posted by red mpls
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
Quote:
Originally Posted by PowerBallin
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
Article raises good point on how feminist thinking has destroyed the family unit and basically made it harder on men AND women not easier.
If there is a reason for the "destruction" of the "family unit" it's because many men have been unwilling to adapt to a more egalitarian form of family unit demanded by feminism. If this "family unit" was rooted in patriarchy and female subordination then it's a step in the right direction if it's been "destroyed"...
Did you not read the article? Serious question. Because if you did I can't understand why you would pose that question.
Please respond.
Yes I did. Why would men be happy about women having an "independent" attitude and volunteering to be single moms with pleasure. Why would men want to live in a world where we are still expected to be great providers and protectors by all of society but then have women tell us how much they don't need us. Its just backwards.
Its perfectly acceptable for Sarah with no education or skills to date a male CEO. But not vice versa. Females gotta chill with that independent women crap because they need us and we need them. Don't push us away then get mad and say "there's no good men"
Bro. YOU want to stay in the mode of men as "provider and protector," not the rest of society. Stop projecting your perspective and then saying it's unfair. Women are going to see the front lines of military combat...
I agree that men and women need each other just as human beings we all need one another. But it's quite easy to see how successful women wouldn't want to deal with an insecure, jealous, and patriarchal man. If they end up saying "**** it" and stop trying, who are you to demonize them?
If you think I'm in the minority when it comes to men being the provider/protector then you need to get out more. Step out your bubble homie.
Bro, society is going one way. You and others want it to stay the other way. Your resistance to the slow process of gender equality is exacerbating, if not creating, the very issues that you're complaining about but your ideology is blinding you to that reality...
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