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this place is filled with morons.

Comparing Macklemore to pac and nas like mothafuckas are running around with a similar message, ya'll some bum *** dudes. I bet ya'll listen to Future and don't compare him to 3 stacks or other elite rapper. Again, clowns clowns clowns. DURR HE DON'T MAKE ME FEEL DURR CORNY DURR HURR HURR
Hypocrites at their finest.

I don't even like macklemore and that wings song is corny to me, but son is successful with his style, so I can't hate. Same way mac miller has a hardcore fanbase, I don't get it, but I can't hate it either. Not my style, but to compare macklemore to teh greats? c'mon g, is you stupid. You wanna uphold such high standards, but you got waka flocka flame joints on your library, what type of **** is that.

Yea, tell me how much waka flocka makes you feel or some **** like that.
DURR I FEELZS IT MA COCK DURR ******* BE GRINDIN HURR HURR HURR HURRRRRR
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I agree with what you're saying bro and in all honesty, if the Internet was poppin' in 99-00 when Eminem came on the scene the cornballs of that era would've said the same crap about Eminem that they're saying about Macklemore now.
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Over the past couple days, I’ve read numerous tweets and a couple articles about the use of our song “Wings” as the intro for the 2013 NBA All Star Game. While most people were congratulatory over the television appearance, it seemed like there were a fair amount of people that were quick to throw out the good, old-fashioned “sellout” statement. The bigger our profile gets, the more I’m getting use to the phrase and the “purists” who toss it around so liberally. But I figured I should probably break it down from my perspective to let you know where I stand.



The song “Wings” is about the pursuit of identity through the means of consumerism. The attempt is to dissect our infatuation and attachment to logos, labels, brands and the fleeting happiness that is intrinsically linked to the almighty power of the purchase. The subject I use in the song is shoes, but its aim is to paint a broader picture of being a consumer and tracing the lineage back to my first memory of retail infused desire.



I love the NBA. Always have, ever since I was a little kid. When we got offered the TNT All Star game intro it was a no-brainer. I showed up that day to a middle school gym in LA and as I was reading the script I was informed that they re-arranged the structure of the song. I didn’t know prior to that day that my lyrics were going to be edited. But to be 100% honest with you, I didn’t really care once I learned that they were. The only thing that I was a little “ehhhh” about was the last bar. But I put it on the ethics scale, and the last bar alteration wasn’t outweighing the potential reach that I saw in doing the video.



In any licensing deal they are going to edit your music. A 4 minute song does not fit into a 30 second movie trailer. Lyrics have to get cut in order for the trailer/ad to make sense with what the company is promoting. And a song about consumerism doesn’t fit into an NBA All Star Game intro without some tailoring. There is a story telling aspect of Wings that chronicles loving basketball, being a kid and wanting to be like Jordan. That’s the side that the NBA wanted to use. Makes sense. Probably doesn’t make sense for them to use the part that’s breaking down our obsession with the shoes that 90% of the players in the NBA wear, right?



The All Star game intro was seen by millions of people on Sunday who had no idea who we were. My thinking was, if they liked the song they will go and listen to the full version. Those who hear the original song in its entirety will get the core of what gives the song depth. Some might even buy it and become real fans. And guess what version they get? Not the TNT chopped up edit, but the full one.



In my stripped down definition, selling out is compromising your artistic integrity for money/fame. In my heart I can tell you that my personal artistic integrity remained completely intact over the weekend. TNT used our song. They’re still my words. They picked the parts that fit their ad campaign, and visually matched it to us performing, threw in a highlight reel of crazy dunks and had a bunch of kids singing the hook in a gym. Word. I’m all for that. If you take away the consumerism cautionary core of Wings, a story still remains. And that story is one that I’m still proud of, and it’s dope to me that it’s relatable enough for TNT to want to use it.



I would understand the “Macklemore sold out” complaints more if we matched Wings to a shoe commercial. That would be blatant irony, it would completely contradict the song and would appear as a sell out move. But an NBA commercial? The NBA has very little to do with what Wings was really about. The songs subject is about shoes, but the guts of the record are about consumer culture. Is the NBA tied up in this culture and related in some way? Of course. All companies selling a product are. But this is the result of American culture. Does the NBA happen to fall under the capitalist umbrella? Absolutely. But it’s no different than the brands you’re currently wearing, the company that manufactured the couch that you’re sitting on or the computer/phone you’re staring into while reading this.



If there was any trace of irony by Wings being one of the official songs of the 2013 All Star Game, that’s great. That means that we won. The song about consumerism was embraced on a national level, and played to the entire country of sports fans that tuned in. More people download the song, got the truth (the actual/full song) and we converted strangers that didn’t know who we were into fans. If that’s selling out to you, word. But to me that’s nothing but an all around win.

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post #94 of 119
Naw he still sold out
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Naw he still sold out

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Don't act like yall didn't start going to Goodwill after that Thrift shop song. I got this dope WNBA shirt that I constantly get compliments on.

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Don't act like yall didn't start going to Goodwill after that Thrift shop song. I got this dope WNBA shirt that I constantly get compliments on.

Nah we didn't. You can carry on sportin' your Swoopes jersey though.
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Nah we didn't. You can carry on sportin' your Swoopes jersey though.

smh typical consumer *****

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smh typical consumer *****

You are the one wearing a shirt that endorses the WNBA though.
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How can you make a song standing up to consumerism and then want people to consume your song. All I read in that is dude buy my song.

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Never heard of dude until about two weeks ago. Song is horrible. 

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post #102 of 119
I'll admit Wings is corny but thrift shop is alright. I wouldn't mind it playing on the radio or whenever I'm working out at the gym.
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Persistence pays off -- He was on the XXL cover 2 years ago. All it takes is that one song, and I'm happy for dude. I enjoy what he says on his records.

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i listen to this track a couple of days ago and the ish was doo doo stains, but I'm happy for Mack, cuz the industry is a messed up place

post #105 of 119
Man, can't stand that they categorize this garbage as hiphop. Guess this the times we live in now.
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How can you make a song standing up to consumerism and then want people to consume your song. All I read in that is dude buy my song.
This. No matter how dude put it he sold out, on a track with a actual message. And to dudes in here talking about he's trash and comparing wings to nelly's air force ones yall are idiots. Don't get me wrong musically and as a rapper I don't mess with dude at all. But this dude is creative as hell, and if you look at music as art in anyway he's hard to ignore. I do find it hard to understand how people can buy into his character though, which is what has brought him so much success. Than again most consumers aren't that deep as he has pointed out *shrugs*
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mackelmore is a rapper, so how would us not liking him equate to us not understanding music besides rap?
he raps fool....he's just a corny rapper.

your comment just shows you're probably a Macklemore stan and you don't know how to argue your point that he's good to you so you have to say that we just simply only understand one genre...the genre in which Macklemore is a part of.
But you know what? It's fine that you like him bruh and if you sleep better thinking he's great and that we just don't "understand" then who am I to disrupt your rest? Dream on bro.

 

If you dont like him or understand him thats fine who cares? that was said for those who dont dont like him prolly because they dont understand him.

 

Stan? nah I just listen and know music more then you will. Ever.

 

Seems like you hurt your own feelings there, its not that serious.

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thrift shop named the number 1 song on billboard for two straight weeks

 

dropped a cd on his own and is at 292,000

 

thrift shop sales surpass 2 million sales , double platinum plaque

 

FILTHY

 

i think dudes might just opt out of signing deals in this climate based on mackemores 2013 blueprint

 

 

all these rappers signing huge deals today are almost all flopping , how long until "major rap labels" are a thing of the past?

Ummm Drake did this 4 years ago

 

"Best I ever Had" was the #1 song on Billboard's hot 100. In fact Drake had the #1 and #2 techinically bc Young Money's "Every girl" was #2

 

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/268287/drake-flies-twice-into-top-10-of-billboard-hot-100

 

He released a mixtape "So Far Gone" for free, then turned around and sold it and sold 640k copies to date. Keep in mind this is still a free album. laugh.gif

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thrift shop named the number 1 song on billboard for two straight weeks

dropped a cd on his own and is at 292,000

thrift shop sales surpass 2 million sales , double platinum plaque

FILTHY

i think dudes might just opt out of signing deals in this climate based on mackemores 2013 blueprint


all these rappers signing huge deals today are almost all flopping , how long until "major rap labels" are a thing of the past?
Ummm Drake did this 4 years ago

"Best I ever Had" was the #1 song on Billboard's hot 100. In fact Drake had the #1 and #2 techinically bc Young Money's "Every girl" was #2

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/268287/drake-flies-twice-into-top-10-of-billboard-hot-100

He released a mixtape "So Far Gone" for free, then turned around and sold it and sold 640k copies to date. Keep in mind this is still a free album. laugh.gif

The point he was making is Macklemore did it without a deal.
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post #111 of 119
I like macklemore

Saw him at paid dues, I enjoyed it.
Bought his cd. Enjoyed every single song.


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post #112 of 119
His new song "can't hold us" is actually a pretty dope song. And this is coming from a dude who hates thrift shop

Man that beat is fire
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His new song "can't hold us" is actually a pretty dope song. And this is coming from a dude who hates thrift shop

Man that beat is fire

its 2 years old and was the first song from him i heard... i think it's his best although ive never heard a full project
post #114 of 119
Too much hate for this dude.
Who cares about all this **** you guys talking about?
Comparisons to people that dont need to be made.
Calling him a sell out?

Man, some of you are the reason why the hip-hop genre is struggling so bad.
Never pleased with anything.
Can't just listen to some damn music and enjoy it for what it is without making all these comparisons and unnecessary criticisms.

The Heist isn't perfect, but its a damn good album.
And this is coming from someone who hates Thrift Shop.
His music may be 'corny', but it actually has substance.

These days, not many people do.

Why cant we just enjoy it instead of debating the color of his skin, and whether or not he is a sell out?

Smh. This country's headed in a bad direction mayne, in all honesty...it is.
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The point he was making is Macklemore did it without a deal.

Drake didn't have a deal when Best I ever had was #1 in the country.

Dude already had hit songs and a critically acclaimed album before he signed with Young Money. I'm not dissing Mackemore just saying he's far from the first to do things this way. .

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His new song "can't hold us" is actually a pretty dope song. And this is coming from a dude who hates thrift shop

Man that beat is fire
I agree as well but I'm a girl who hates thrift shop
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Nah we didn't. You can carry on sportin' your Swoopes jersey though.

lol dude is a hype beast... listening to mainstream music and listening to what he says and go buy him some new clothes... go do ya own thing... smh

this has to be a joke... heard the song and its a joke, dude is white and doesnt splew any bad messages on his single so the media ate it up and these lil white kids loved it

post #118 of 119

damn just heard his new song... his flow is terrible, i mean ta ta ta taaa ta ta.... all that weak **** he saying too...wtf is wrong with the media... we shouldve had og double d on the map with living luxury 

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Lol the hate is so thick for no reason.
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