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2013 New York Yankees season thread Vol. (85-77) OFFSEASON
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I'm on board, but apart of me feels his St. Louis-success won't carry over as much coming here :\ .
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Short Porch..
Please Keep Cano, Grandy.. Add Beltran & McCann...
That lineup would burn other teams pitchers.
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The Return of the Evil Empire!
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Lawd please be true.
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Hey, it ain't my money! 
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Yes... Though I'm still not keen on letting Grandy go. He's too versatile to me to let go.
But thank god they are not penny pinching.
If they get the 4 (Cano, McCann, Beltran, Tanaka) in the ESPN article.
Keep Brendan Ryan, Mark Reynolds.
And try your best to convince Kuroda to mentor Tanaka (if he won't then look for a mid starter).
And in my opinion what would be the best value contract in FA to get K-Rod who will be severely underpaid. It will be glorious.
But thank god they are not penny pinching.
If they get the 4 (Cano, McCann, Beltran, Tanaka) in the ESPN article.
Keep Brendan Ryan, Mark Reynolds.
And try your best to convince Kuroda to mentor Tanaka (if he won't then look for a mid starter).
And in my opinion what would be the best value contract in FA to get K-Rod who will be severely underpaid. It will be glorious.
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sounds like a plan....
Lets get er done!!!!
Lets get er done!!!!
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Yankees 2014 payroll after arbitration
The offseason is a time to prepare for next season. Part of that is the arbitration process, where cheap players get more expensive as they tick off another year until free agency. MLB Trade Rumors attempts to estimate what those arbitration salaries might be.
David Robertson made $3.1 million over the 2013 season in his second year of arbitration. He now has just over five years of service time and with a strong season and the new role as closer, D-Rob is projected to make $5.07 million in his last year of arbitration. He'll be a free agent after the season, so he could be looking at a big deal very soon.
Brett Gardner is in his last year of arbitration and after two straight seasons of a $2.8 million salary, he will be getting a big raise, up to $4 million, after a healthy and productive 2013 season. He has just over five years of service time and could get a longterm deal from a team in need of an elite outfielder with speed.
Ivan Nova finished his last season of pre-arbitration eligibility and after making just $575,600 in 2013, he could make the jump to $2.8 million in his first arbitration year. With just over three years of service time, he won't be a free agent until the 2017 season, so there is plenty of time to see what kind of pitcher he will be and how much he could be worth on the open market.
Shawn Kelley is actually a Super Two, giving him an extra season of arbitration, instead of league minimum. After making $935,000 with the Yankees after coming over from the Mariners, he's looking at a raise to $1.5 million. With just over four years of service, he won't be a free agent until 2016, so he's going to be around, and be relatively cheap, for awhile.
Despite over four years of service time, Jayson Nix is still eligible for arbitration for the first time. The Yankees signed him to a $900,000 contract last offseason in order to forgo the arbitration process, but if he goes to arbitration he could make around $1.4 million. Nix will be around until the 2016 season, though he will likely agree to another cheap deal or could even end up being released from the organization.
Francisco Cervelli is another player who could be non-tendered by the organization after he served a suspension and dealt with another season of debilitating injuries. If they want to keep him, he will go through arbitration for the first time and could go from a $515,350 player to a $1 million player. With just over three years of service time, Cervelli could also be signed to a cheap contract to avoid the arbitration process.
Chris Stewart has just over three years of service time and will be arbitration eligible for the first time in 2014. He made just $515,100 in 2013, but he could earn up to $1 million this year. If the Yankees don't non-tender him he will not likely go through the arbitration process and sign for something much lower.
The Yankees could end up spending upwards of $13.8 million on arbitration eligible players alone. Add Mark Teixeira at $22.5 million, CC Sabathia at $23 million, Alex Rodriguez at $25 million, Ichiro Suzuki at $6.5 million, Alfonso Soriano at $5 million, and Vernon Wells at $2.4 million and the Yankees are looking at a payroll of $98.2 million by just retaining the players they already have. Derek Jeter has a $9.5 million player option that he will likely invoke, bringing the total to $107.7 million.
Now add onto that the pre-arbitration eligible contracts from people like Eduardo Nunez, Austin Romine, David Phelps, Adam Warren, Preston Claiborne and that's another $3.5 million, rounded up, and you end up with a payroll of $111.2 million before signing a single free agent. If the Yankees are sticking to the $189 million payroll plan then that leaves them with $77.8 million, give or take, to sign Robinson Cano, Hiroi Kuroda, Curtis Granderson, and whoever else they are looking at.
If Cano signs an eight year, $200 million deal, he'll likely make somewhere around $25 million if the contract isn't backloaded. That would give the Yankees another $52.6 million to sign Granderson and Kuroda at around $14.1 million each, leaving them with $28.4 million to fill out the bullpen, and sign the likes of Brendan Ryan and Mark Reynolds. If the Yankees are going to go after Brian McCann, Carlos Beltran, and Masahiro Tanaka, they're going to need more money than that. Getting back that $25 million if A-Rod is suspended is going to be crucial to the team's offseason plans.
Notes:
-After all arbitration cases with current set salaries we are at $111.2mil ($77.7 to stay under $189million)
- Cano $25mil, Grandy $14.1 mil, Kuroda $14mil. That puts us $164.3mil
-Brendan Ryan, Mark Reynolds will probably be about $5mil total. $169.3mil
- Beltran 2 year / $30 mil, Tanaka 4 year / $40 mil, McCann - 5 year / $80mil. That's $41million, puts us at $210.3 mil.
-Now if A-Rod gets suspended for the entire year. $210.2mil - $25mil = $185.3mil
-We'd still be short a setup man, but if A-Rod gets suspended, we could sign almost everyone we want and stay under $189mil. Who knew.
In Cano news, Dodgers signed Guerrero 4 year / $28million. That means they are out with Cano.
The offseason is a time to prepare for next season. Part of that is the arbitration process, where cheap players get more expensive as they tick off another year until free agency. MLB Trade Rumors attempts to estimate what those arbitration salaries might be.
David Robertson made $3.1 million over the 2013 season in his second year of arbitration. He now has just over five years of service time and with a strong season and the new role as closer, D-Rob is projected to make $5.07 million in his last year of arbitration. He'll be a free agent after the season, so he could be looking at a big deal very soon.
Brett Gardner is in his last year of arbitration and after two straight seasons of a $2.8 million salary, he will be getting a big raise, up to $4 million, after a healthy and productive 2013 season. He has just over five years of service time and could get a longterm deal from a team in need of an elite outfielder with speed.
Ivan Nova finished his last season of pre-arbitration eligibility and after making just $575,600 in 2013, he could make the jump to $2.8 million in his first arbitration year. With just over three years of service time, he won't be a free agent until the 2017 season, so there is plenty of time to see what kind of pitcher he will be and how much he could be worth on the open market.
Shawn Kelley is actually a Super Two, giving him an extra season of arbitration, instead of league minimum. After making $935,000 with the Yankees after coming over from the Mariners, he's looking at a raise to $1.5 million. With just over four years of service, he won't be a free agent until 2016, so he's going to be around, and be relatively cheap, for awhile.
Despite over four years of service time, Jayson Nix is still eligible for arbitration for the first time. The Yankees signed him to a $900,000 contract last offseason in order to forgo the arbitration process, but if he goes to arbitration he could make around $1.4 million. Nix will be around until the 2016 season, though he will likely agree to another cheap deal or could even end up being released from the organization.
Francisco Cervelli is another player who could be non-tendered by the organization after he served a suspension and dealt with another season of debilitating injuries. If they want to keep him, he will go through arbitration for the first time and could go from a $515,350 player to a $1 million player. With just over three years of service time, Cervelli could also be signed to a cheap contract to avoid the arbitration process.
Chris Stewart has just over three years of service time and will be arbitration eligible for the first time in 2014. He made just $515,100 in 2013, but he could earn up to $1 million this year. If the Yankees don't non-tender him he will not likely go through the arbitration process and sign for something much lower.
The Yankees could end up spending upwards of $13.8 million on arbitration eligible players alone. Add Mark Teixeira at $22.5 million, CC Sabathia at $23 million, Alex Rodriguez at $25 million, Ichiro Suzuki at $6.5 million, Alfonso Soriano at $5 million, and Vernon Wells at $2.4 million and the Yankees are looking at a payroll of $98.2 million by just retaining the players they already have. Derek Jeter has a $9.5 million player option that he will likely invoke, bringing the total to $107.7 million.
Now add onto that the pre-arbitration eligible contracts from people like Eduardo Nunez, Austin Romine, David Phelps, Adam Warren, Preston Claiborne and that's another $3.5 million, rounded up, and you end up with a payroll of $111.2 million before signing a single free agent. If the Yankees are sticking to the $189 million payroll plan then that leaves them with $77.8 million, give or take, to sign Robinson Cano, Hiroi Kuroda, Curtis Granderson, and whoever else they are looking at.
If Cano signs an eight year, $200 million deal, he'll likely make somewhere around $25 million if the contract isn't backloaded. That would give the Yankees another $52.6 million to sign Granderson and Kuroda at around $14.1 million each, leaving them with $28.4 million to fill out the bullpen, and sign the likes of Brendan Ryan and Mark Reynolds. If the Yankees are going to go after Brian McCann, Carlos Beltran, and Masahiro Tanaka, they're going to need more money than that. Getting back that $25 million if A-Rod is suspended is going to be crucial to the team's offseason plans.
Notes:
-After all arbitration cases with current set salaries we are at $111.2mil ($77.7 to stay under $189million)
- Cano $25mil, Grandy $14.1 mil, Kuroda $14mil. That puts us $164.3mil
-Brendan Ryan, Mark Reynolds will probably be about $5mil total. $169.3mil
- Beltran 2 year / $30 mil, Tanaka 4 year / $40 mil, McCann - 5 year / $80mil. That's $41million, puts us at $210.3 mil.
-Now if A-Rod gets suspended for the entire year. $210.2mil - $25mil = $185.3mil
-We'd still be short a setup man, but if A-Rod gets suspended, we could sign almost everyone we want and stay under $189mil. Who knew.
In Cano news, Dodgers signed Guerrero 4 year / $28million. That means they are out with Cano.
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Anyone watch the Mariano documentary that aired on Sunday? Watching it now...gonna miss Mo 
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Just read an article that if Phil Hughes gets nothing in terms of offers (Padres who were said to want him, no longer do).. Yankees could try to bring him back for cheap. If they do, I hope they learn their lesson and move him to the bullpen permanently. Only if everyone else is injured, and they truly need a starter for 1 game, should Hughes be allowed to take the mound first pitch.
Still starting pitching, my hope is Tanaka, and convince Kuroda to come back for 1 year to mentor Tanaka. That would make 5 to go with CC, Nova, Pineda. If Kuroda doesn't come back, you need to go after a #2 starter. That pretty much means either trading for 1, or giving the money to Garza, who I'm not sold on as a #2 getting #2 money. I'm more of like a strong #3, getting paid #4 starter money.
Bullpen still have to retain Boone Logan. That's extremely important. Betances may have a little trouble, but if you get him to work on his control that 96 mph heat mixed in with 82 mph offspeed will be dangerous, especially in the bullpen.
Logan, Betances, Robertson.
Then you look at Shawn Kelly, Preston Claiborne. Both pitched beautifully until July/August then it fell apart.
Few ways you can go:
If you add in Hughes who is your MRP/Spot Starter.
Talks about Oh Seung Hwan from Korea, not sure how good he is. But since he's a reliever, it wouldn't be a ridiculous contract. Maybe $5mil a year tops.
Then you have Phelps, Warren who maybe get shine in the bullpen.
Also K-Rod should enter our radar, and not leave our radar. He will get paid chump change for the pitcher that he is. If you can get him, maybe overpay $1-2 a year, which will bring you to at most $6-7mil, you can have him as your Setup Man. Or if Robertson struggles, put Robertson back to the 8th, K-Rod 9th. I much more prefer this.
Bryan Hoch of MLB said the Yankees priority list
1. Re-sign Cano (which I feel more confident about)
2. Win the bid on Tanaka
3. Sign a new Catcher (Pretty much only person they can be talking about is McCann, who even if you give 5 years, and worry about his legs. Can play 1B, and DH)
After that it is dependent on what happens to A-Rod (from a separate article). As much as I like A-Rod, and know he can't be replaced easily, he needs to take a year off. So we can spend this money.
Still starting pitching, my hope is Tanaka, and convince Kuroda to come back for 1 year to mentor Tanaka. That would make 5 to go with CC, Nova, Pineda. If Kuroda doesn't come back, you need to go after a #2 starter. That pretty much means either trading for 1, or giving the money to Garza, who I'm not sold on as a #2 getting #2 money. I'm more of like a strong #3, getting paid #4 starter money.
Bullpen still have to retain Boone Logan. That's extremely important. Betances may have a little trouble, but if you get him to work on his control that 96 mph heat mixed in with 82 mph offspeed will be dangerous, especially in the bullpen.
Logan, Betances, Robertson.
Then you look at Shawn Kelly, Preston Claiborne. Both pitched beautifully until July/August then it fell apart.
Few ways you can go:
If you add in Hughes who is your MRP/Spot Starter.
Talks about Oh Seung Hwan from Korea, not sure how good he is. But since he's a reliever, it wouldn't be a ridiculous contract. Maybe $5mil a year tops.
Then you have Phelps, Warren who maybe get shine in the bullpen.
Also K-Rod should enter our radar, and not leave our radar. He will get paid chump change for the pitcher that he is. If you can get him, maybe overpay $1-2 a year, which will bring you to at most $6-7mil, you can have him as your Setup Man. Or if Robertson struggles, put Robertson back to the 8th, K-Rod 9th. I much more prefer this.
Bryan Hoch of MLB said the Yankees priority list
1. Re-sign Cano (which I feel more confident about)
2. Win the bid on Tanaka
3. Sign a new Catcher (Pretty much only person they can be talking about is McCann, who even if you give 5 years, and worry about his legs. Can play 1B, and DH)
After that it is dependent on what happens to A-Rod (from a separate article). As much as I like A-Rod, and know he can't be replaced easily, he needs to take a year off. So we can spend this money.
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Pinstripe Alley (Formerly Pinstripe Bible) had an interesting suggestion. To keep Cano, but to keep the years at a reasonable number... Pay him a ridiculously absurd amount of money for less years.
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yanks re signed jeter, one year $12 mil .. 
http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20131101&content_id=63611712&oid=36019
http://web.yesnetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20131101&content_id=63611712&oid=36019
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I'll give Jeter my kidney.
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I hate the Yankees, but I've always had nothing but respect for Jeter. I hope he stays healthy next season and is able to get the Mariano Rivera celebration send-off treatment from opposing teams.
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if jeter's retiring he won't announce it till late in the year. he won't want that whole goodbye tour. i'm getting emotional typing that .....
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Jeter will probably announce his retirement after the season on a press release from his home in Tampa. Look how just getting to 3,000 hits distracted him.
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Maybe, just maybe.
Yankees should try to go after Johan for cheap.
Maybe minor league contract, and incentive for making the majors like K-Rod got in his contract last year.
Easy couple mil drop in the bucket.
Not an ace, but a #5 starter, you could have something.
Yankees should try to go after Johan for cheap.
Maybe minor league contract, and incentive for making the majors like K-Rod got in his contract last year.
Easy couple mil drop in the bucket.
Not an ace, but a #5 starter, you could have something.
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How fitting would it be if the Yankees got Johan and he pitched lights out on a minimum contract....
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Brendan Ryan is almost a certainty to be back.
This is depressing though
View media item 653130
ESPN says we are looking at either Reynolds, Eric Chavez (y'all know I'm happy about this), or trading for Freese (which I hate because it's a waste of resources). I say Reynolds & Chavez... Go both.
I'm still on the
McCann, Cano, Reynolds, Chavez, Replacing Granderson (because he's gone pretty much), Beltran, Tanaka, Kuroda, K-Rod train...
This is depressing though
View media item 653130
ESPN says we are looking at either Reynolds, Eric Chavez (y'all know I'm happy about this), or trading for Freese (which I hate because it's a waste of resources). I say Reynolds & Chavez... Go both.
I'm still on the
McCann, Cano, Reynolds, Chavez, Replacing Granderson (because he's gone pretty much), Beltran, Tanaka, Kuroda, K-Rod train...
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It's too bad Brian Wilson wont shave his beard. He would be good for you guys.
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I want Peralta,sube Freese because they're saying Stl doesn't want anything
I DON'T WANT CHOO OR ELLSBURY, AT ALLLL. Choo is mad overrated and Ellsbury is always hurt
I DON'T WANT CHOO OR ELLSBURY, AT ALLLL. Choo is mad overrated and Ellsbury is always hurt
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I'd rather just keep Grandy.. Either way we need a 3rd OF as well as a OF DH.